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WOW!!!!
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Agree--great fight and Pulver was game. Faber was good though and like the poster above me mentioned--it's hard not to like the kid.
As for the question of fighting--some don't get mixed martial arts and that is cool--for a long time I didn't either. But to me now it's a physical chess match and yes, there is violence. People with respect for Martial Arts don't really want to hurt guys--(here I mean, they don't want anyone to suffer a bad injury) but they do want to win. It's been around forever and it's not going away but I totally understand that it is not for everyone. I study Byakko Ryu Jujitsu and love it--and when we spar, you can get hit but it is also a lot of fun. Regardless--great fight. -Drew |
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Why I am ....What I am.....
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Christians worship in spirit and truth the God of Creation , not that which has been preserved for every generation to draw from. Nor is there a problem. God is not a religion and never was. Come on Wouldee, you've got to be kidding yourself here. The WHOLE BASIS of Christianity is that a person MUST recognize the BIBLE as the WORD OF GOD!!! Come on Wouldee, if you can't see this you've got to be seriously blind. Christians do not worship a collection of writings that were penned by witnesses to historical truthes that were preserved for posterity. They most absolute DO. I don't see how you can claim otherwise. I've posted many times that the whole story of Jesus is clearly dependent on entirely biblical stories of the Old Testament. The very crucifixion of Jesus as being a sacrificial lamb of God, is entirely based on the idea of God requiring blood sacrifices before he can forgive sins in the first place. Jesus has no meaning outside of the biblical story. Christianity is entirely about believing in the biblical stories. Period! But then any other religious practice other than that identified as pleasing God could very well be a farce of extremely vain intents. And there you go. According to Christians, the only way to please God is to do what it says in the doctrine they worship as the word of God. You say,... God is not a religion and never was If you truly believe this then if I choose to toss a Bible in a burn barrel and view God from the pantheistic point of view you would have to say, "That perfectly fine!" You have to take that stance if you truly believe that dogma is not God. Because in my heart I don't think that book has anything to do with God. And you would have to accept that. Maybe you do! But the dogma that you claim to believe in refuses that idea. So you would have to selectively believe only parts of it. I don't see why you would do that. It seems to me that it has to be an all-or-nothing venture. You either believe the dogma or you don't. In short Wouldee, it's not Wouldee's choice. It's what the doctrine itself is claiming. I speak to the issue of the doctrine and the organized religion that it represents. I never speak to the issue of what Wouldee might believe. If you believe something different from what the doctrine claims then why even bother using the word "Christian" to define yourself? This is what Redykeulous often asks. If people are going to invent their own religions why don't they make up a new label to go with it? I can't only speak to what the doctrine says. People who claim to be Christians are supposedly claiming to believe that the Bible is the solitary word of the one true God. If they don't believe that, then why are they even bothering to call themselves "Christians"? You can't extract Jesus from the rest of the Bible. It won't work. He's nailed the Biblical picture even more firmly than he's nailed to the Cross. His crucifixion as being for the salvation of mankind depends on the entire biblical story. It's entirely a dogmatic religion. It demands a belief that the doctrine is the sole word of God. The religion is ultimately a belief that the doctrine is true! It's a belief in a doctrine. That's what it is Wouldee. The basis of Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ and that relationship and fellowship with God is made real and forever immutable by the presence of the Holy Spirit in one's soul. That the Holy Bible reflects that is more aptly the basis for sharing the historical significance of why that has come to be. Having knowledge of what has passed and the promises given in the record given only adds to the richness of the life hid in Christ. It doesn't replace the reality of Christianity. The Holy Bible need not be read or fully absorbed to ignite one's faith to believe and receive the Holy Spirit, which, by the way, is the teacher. We are living epistles. The Holy Bible does bear the Word of God and the Word of God will not return void when encountered. But the void is not in the Word of God where expressed but in the heart of the one not willing to embrace it. Invariably, the most profusive denials always build arguments over personal excuses for not entering into the truths expressed within the written record of all the witnesses to the majesty and glory of the Living God, each step of the way, without disguising their (those mentioned in scripture) shortcomings. It is those very shortcomings that breed the contempt in the heart of one seeking excuses for absolving oneself from seeking to the end that prize which is intended. God is not mocked. Ridiculed perhaps, but not mocked.  Mimicked perhaps, but not mocked. refused perhaps, but not mocked.   According to Thesaurus.com synonyms for mocked include: Ridicule and mimicked. Main Entry: mock Part of Speech: verb Synonyms: ape, artificial, banter, burlesque, caricature, copy, counterfeit, deceive, deride, disappoint, fake, false, farce, fleer, flout, imitate, imitation, insult, jape, jeer, jibe, joke, lampoon, mimic, ridicule, scoff, scorn, sham, sneer, stimulated, taunt, tease -Drew |
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14 Seconds 16-0 Thank God
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Shoot--I did not look at the date of the post where you said your fight was "tonight" so I thought it was today. Anyway, great to hear bro--nice work. Hope the dentist can help you out but Congratulations!
-Drew |
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Kimbo got Lucky
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So.. have you kicked your girlfriends crazy ex-boyfriends azz yet?  hahahaha no azz kicking till tonight and by that i'm scared cuz i'm getting my first lost but should be expetcted seeing is i weghed in a 177 and since i fight 165 and was too heavy i decided to fight a guy 30 lbs heavier..... but oh well it will be fun... Viking--good luck bro--and don't worry about the weight. Remember what Gracie did to Kimo in the early days of the UFC. I can hear you now: "Ummm, Drew, I'm not Royce Gracie." Well, no one is but who cares--good luck and let us know how things go. Be safe. -Drew |
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Drew07_2
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Sun 06/01/08 11:35 AM
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While there are many good ideas put forth in the Bible I find it a deplorable moral guide even if one only deals with one issue: Slavery. The ready answer a number of Christians offer regarding the issue of slavery being not only allowed, but encouraged by way of instruction as how to treat slaves and how long they can be kept (Ex. 21:2-7) is that times were different then--that was just how things were "back then." What a horribly empty answer if only for one reason--the teachings about slavery are never corrected. The New Testament never casts an appropriate amount of shame on the practice, in fact the Bible never calls it wrong.
Lev. 25:44-46 gives a detailed account of how one should treat slaves brought in from Pagan nations--there were time limits on holding Hebrew slaves so far from limiting the practice, Leviticus actually expands the justification and rules for the practice. Why? Why, if it is wrong today, was it OK back then? But more importantly, why do we feel it is wrong today? I trust there is no one in this forum who thinks that we should be allowed to own slaves in the year 2008. How is that not moral advancement? How is that not leaving some of the cruelest teachings of the bible behind in order to advance? -Drew Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Wonderful! |
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? for Mac users
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Better to have one just to be safe. Just stay away from Norton (resource hog). I'm not a MAC user, but I know there have been a very few virus' written for MAC. Not nearly at as much risk as PC, still better to be safe, firewall too;^] Yeah, just adjusted my firewall settings, so I hope that helps some. Apple also has a built in program called Time Machine which allows me to do a daily back-up of everything on an external HD--which I have and which is PC/Mac compatible. Now I need to find out if I need to do a disk clean-up. Thank you everyone for the links and the suggestions. I appreciate it. |
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? for Mac users
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Thank you, Jill...I have not loaded one but wanted to check with those how know more about computers (which in my case would be roughly 90% of users.)
:) Drew |
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? for Mac users
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I have heard conflicting opinions on whether or not anti-virus is needed for a Mac. I just purchased one a few months ago and have had zero issues with it but I don't want to tempt fate either. Can someone point me in the right direction. I was also hoping someone might be able to help me out with whether there is a disk utility (or clean-up) built in (on a PC it would be under system tools--disk clean up) something like that.
Thank you for any help you might be able to provide. -Drew |
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Worst Movie Ever Seen
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Jaws 4. I mean, it's not like Jaws 2 and 3 were great but 4 was just almost too much to watch. In case you missed it (and if you did, congratulations) after being traumatized by various incarnations of Jaws, the woman who played Martin Brody's wife meets up with Michael Cain (yeah, really) and moves to an island where--you guessed it the shark known as Jaws (aka, Hollywood milking the last dime from a dying story) comes back for revenge.
That's right--being terrified of sharks and having lost a husband and a son to the effects of Jaws, she moved to a Freaking ISLAND. Way to avoid sharks. Not Nebraska--an island. OK, getting too riled up here--but it was horrible. An honorable mention here goes to Beaches. While I know it won't go down as the worst movie ever made I was once forced to watch it to keep the peace with a girl I was dating. It was not fun. Hours of depression and cancer and well, unless bleeding from the eyes is a normal response to bad cinema, it did not go well. -Drew |
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In his day, Ken was amazing. I mean, the guy was not just good but he was mean. I think now he has more mean than ability but no shot at him, he's just gotten older and that is no crime. I think however it was sad that he kept going after Tito (and likewise, Tito after Ken) because it just started to look sad. Yeah, Tito got the porn-star wife, a few movie roles and just seems to be fighting uninspired fights now days. Oh well--he'd still kick the hell out of me so I'll shut up :) -Drew that is way i look at it if i can't beat the guy i don't talk much crap about him.... Totally agree--I mean as a fan I have an opinion but I know that those guys, all of them that get in to the Octagon, would make me look fifty types of stupid. I study a form called Byakko Ryu Jujitsu which is 80% Jujitsu and 20% Kung Fu. I've been doing it now for about two years and it is hard as hell, but I do it not to become an MMA guy (I'm 36 so that would be my coffin) but just because I enjoy it and if I'm going to talk at all about MMA or martial arts I should probably have been in an arm bar before. I have and I won't lie--it hurts. :) -Drew |
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with all the fighters out there it's hard to choose but if i had too it be. Rampage Jackson Rampage is a monster right now. Good pick. |
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Check out Fedor and Nogueira's first fight.... its fanf*ckingtastic! Yeah, it was a good one--someone linked it and Fedor was pretty impressive. Oh, and I agree that I gravitated toward UFC with "who is the best" but part of that is only because that is what I've been exposed to. I have seen Fedor on YouTube and on Pride re-runs but most of what I've seen is UFC based. That all stated I hear now that Tim Sylvia is going to fight Fedor and well, I think Fedor might actually kill him. I am not sure if Tim is on drugs or not but I don't think it will go all that well for him. Then again, I've picked fights stupidly before (Serra vs. GSP 1) and been so wrong. But if Tim wins you know we'll never, EVER hear the end of it from him, right? -Drew |
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In his day, Ken was amazing. I mean, the guy was not just good but he was mean. I think now he has more mean than ability but no shot at him, he's just gotten older and that is no crime. I think however it was sad that he kept going after Tito (and likewise, Tito after Ken) because it just started to look sad.
Yeah, Tito got the porn-star wife, a few movie roles and just seems to be fighting uninspired fights now days. Oh well--he'd still kick the hell out of me so I'll shut up :) -Drew |
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I just think if Kimbo got put a guillten or rear naked choke, or **** even sometihng as simple as an ankle lock(what mir beat lesnar with) he would not be abel to do anything with it... Yeah, it seems like there is a chance he'd fall into the Tank Abbot syndrome of nothing knowing what to do with a fight unless toe to toe and punching at large round thing that sits atop the neck. -Drew |
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I hope you guys dont think the UFC is where all the "best" fighters are at, because the only names i see here are UFC fighters. Fedor Emelianenko is a PRIDE fighter and he is the man! He has an almost flawless record and if you want to see an unbelievable fight check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM Hey, UFC owns pride, so Fedor is considered part of that company...Hell, I will got out of that IFL fighter Ben Rothwell is one of the best heavyweights i've seen Unfortunately yes PRIDE was bought out but my point is that the UFC barely scratches the surface of the worlds best fighters. But, i agree is you simply read my first post the topic starter i put Dan Henderson down there also a pride fighter..... so on one hand you are right but on the other their is a reason why UFC is the most popular and the place every fighter strives to get to at one point(even if they eventually want to leave(tito) I know for a fact that not every fighter wants to go to the UFC and Tito is waste of space anyway.... his MO is to not get hit in the face.... what a PU$$Y! It appears that Tito is pretty much in a downward spiral. Unless he is fighting Ken Shamrock the outcome seems to be rather predictable in that he generally loses. And anyone fighting Ken these days should not be using the fact as a bragging right--I mean the man is about ten years past prime. |
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Kimbo Slice
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Well, we will find out tomorrow how well Bas Rutten has trained him. Kimbo will probably never get the chance to fight someone of Mir or Fedor simply because 1) He'll never go to UFC unless he gains a little more control and gets a hold of his tempor and 2) Alot of the credible fighters don't want to fight them simply because Kimbo is a street fighter so he doesn't feel that the rules apply to him... Oh, I agree. And I think there is another reason. A loss to Kimbo would be terrible for any top-notch fighter. It is a huge risk to fight him because of his punching power and so guys are going to be careful. Still, you are right--Fedor isn't coming to the UFC (thanks Dana) and I don't know where the Heavyweight division is going in the UFC. But like you said, he's fun to watch and if Bas is training him then he's working on more than just stand-up. The guy could get really scary if he ever becomes well rounded. -Drew |
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I would say George st pierre needs a nod in this thread to....he destroyed serra......he destroyed hughes. He is the canadian version of conan the destroyer......minus the whole steriod thing I did not forget GSP but my issue with him (as it relates to being the best in MMA right now) is that before he destroyed Serra he was destroyed by Serra. He is massively talented and when he is on his game there is no one better. It's just that he isn't always on and consistency has to be considered part of the test for "best." -Drew |
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The atheist and the marine
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maybe he was there for the simple reason as to knock him off the stool after all the guy did open the opportunity for it to happen (and he obviously thought that is why he was there so hey it happened) just a thought (and a possibility) This is all we need,... for Christians to start thinking that God wants them to go around punching non-believers in the face. Hasn't Christianity done enough of that already over the ages? Standing up for ones beliefs is not a bad thing. You are right--standing up for a personal belief (including religion) is not a bad thing. But the right to stand up ends where physical violence begins. God did not send the Marine in this story to punch the professor--that was an uninspired and felonious human decision and action. But the scariest part is the thought that God might have. If so, what a weak and feeble God we would then be dealing with. A perfect powerful God being so upset by the rantings of one man that he motivated someone to hit him. But then I guess the virtue of turning the other cheek really is only a part time vocation, right? -Drew did not god send the troops to jerico and does that make god weak and feeble Well, if you believe God sent the troops to Jericho to do His will then I guess the answer would be no, in that he approved of it. I don't but then I don't look to the bible for moral direction. My point was simply that an all-powerful God should not need to use man to commit violence in his name or for his honor. I think that those who are reduced to violence in the name of God are weak and feeble. Nothing like an excuse, and never in history has there been a better one than "God" for the justification to commit violence. That said, I am not a pacifist. I have a right and responsibility to protect and defend myself. If someone breaks in to my house at 2:00 AM and I shoot them I'll feel bad but only to the extent that I'll wish they had not put me in that position. What I would not do is punch someone in the face because they made fun of something. That sounds an awful lot like something five year olds do--and those that defend such actions along the same lines don't sound much older. -Drew |
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Kimbo Slice
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Kimbo is scary--no doubt about that. Anyone who disagrees should go to YouTube and check him out. The problem here is we don't really know how good the guys he's fought up until now really were. He has one punch knockout power and he doesn't seem to get hurt but beating Tank Abbot (with due respect, Tank was never an MMA guy but a bar brawler) isn't really what is needed to get a shot at Mir or someone like Fedor.
Still, the guy seems to work hard and from what people have written is really a pretty nice guy. I think that he--like others--have been brought up and into MMA based on street credibility and Kimbo is not lacking in that area. But as was mentioned above, if he is ever put on the ground it could be ugly. Look at what happened to Lesner against Mir. Still, I'll watch him anytime. -Drew |
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The question was, "who is the best" and by that I'll assume you meant pound for pound. Right now I have to go with Anderson Silva. I know that he isn't considered a favorite by everyone but I think that until someone figures out how to neutralize his kicks and his hands there will be few that want to take him on. He destroyed Rich Franklin twice and while I know Franklin isn't (nor has he ever been the best) he was the champion in that weight class for more than a while.
All of that said, I don't think BJ Penn can be overlooked and anyone who does will probably pay--but I still always wonder which BJ Penn will show up. We'll see as he continues as champion of he relaxes too much, but I would not bet against him right now. Awesome to see some MMA threads here. -Drew |
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