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Tue 06/02/09 01:32 PM

Thank you for proving my point, thug. Good luck with that.
Proved what point?

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Tue 06/02/09 01:05 PM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 01:07 PM

Some men have been raised with misogynisic ideals in religion and traditions.
And some men has misogynistic views that help shape their overall philosophy in life.

They see women as only serving a purpose not an object of love and respect.
Yep. Friedrich Nietzsche is well known in Philosophy of his famous quote "Man should be educated for war, and woman for the recreation of the warrior; all else is folly... Let woman be a plaything... The happiness of man is: I will. The happiness of woman is: he wills... You are going to woman? Do not forget the whip!" unquote.

This is a difficult issue to deal with in relationships because of the depth of the misogyny.
So you think man is a metaphorical banana? That to eliminate his misogyny, you must peel layers of layers off his misogynistic shell so you can leave him all buck naked to the cold?

Signs of it are: He will call you stupid and/or crazy when he gets angry. You will notice when he sees women acting "unorthodox" or non traditionslly he will find it disgusting and make statements like "that is why you can't trust women", "all women are crazy", and/or she will be a ***** or whore. If you take the sex, housework and childrearing out of the equation misogynistic men will see no purpose for women.
That can be one example of misogyny. But it can be just his traditional view of woman being into what he think is the appropriate gender specific role in the man/woman relationship. Call that misogyny? Some may differ on that.

How do you battle this?
Women have their own ideological stance too. It is called feminism. And trust me, there are many schools of thoughts within feminism as well.

I have found pointing it out helps some. It usually turns into a battle but if all women fight it every time it happens someday men will not have this problem.
How can you say it is the "man" problem? Seems to me that they have been dominating the gender war for quite some time.

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Tue 06/02/09 12:47 PM


Join the army. They have them.
:banana: I would never put my life on the line for this Country. be seeing you
a pacifist to another pacifist: war suck! see ya around

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Tue 06/02/09 12:43 PM
Men mainly. That is because due to the nature of our jobs. Usually our works consist of heavy lifting and other physical demanding task that when women tries to do some of them, they pretty much become a reliability more than any way useful.

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Tue 06/02/09 03:49 AM


Well that is great. Resort to "to each its own" argument. It isn't easy than you think it is.

To me if you're afflicted by immense feelings for someone, and took the time of 3 months to say it out loud to the person you have feelings for, then it is possible it is too late, or maybe possible that the feelings will not be strong as it once was.

I win again.laugh


Three months is not a long time. If you like to rush into telling people you love them, that's fine. That doesn't mean others have to do the same as you, just because you as so.

You win nothing. Stop trying to argue with everyone.
I don't argue all the time. I do get into debates which can be me and the other person arguing about whatevaa within the debate.

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Tue 06/02/09 02:15 AM



nope, no-ones havin my bits thank u.


I understand...it is your decision.

But may I ask you...what if it was you....that required an organ?

If you had a partner whom you were completely devoted to, and they required an organ?

If no one was prepared to give another an opportunity for life after their death, it would have been a very different outcome for my lovely cousin, her husband and their beautiful 12 year old son. :cry:


i know, i know, i know all the arguments, i just can't! and i've a phobia about once they know ur a donor they're less inclined to save u.
Paranoia is the correct word. not phobiaexplode

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Tue 06/02/09 02:05 AM
You're not fat dude.



Fat makes people look fat, not pictures.
not true. it can add a few pounds as the expression goes...


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Tue 06/02/09 02:04 AM
Is the background of the second picture a snap shot of you being in your hometown in Oregon?

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Tue 06/02/09 02:01 AM
Recycle news.


Moral panic moral panic!!!!

run fo yo lives yo!!!

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Tue 06/02/09 01:59 AM
It seems to me that the op loves to undermine religion in general.... carry on...

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Tue 06/02/09 01:57 AM


LOL

Love the way you spelled medieval as it is like this -midevil

rofl

it is like you have created a new word.


oops lol o man... im usually a excellent speller. I edit alot cos it bothers me to have poor spelling, looks bad. o well, spose im entitled.
Don't feel bad. I do that too often. That is why I wish people would wait for awhile for quoting me. And it isn't the spelling alone, it is grammar and logic too.frustrated

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Tue 06/02/09 01:44 AM
LOL

Love the way you spelled medieval as it is like this -midevil

rofl

it is like you have created a new word.

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Tue 06/02/09 01:40 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 01:41 AM
There was a decent chick flick romantic movie I did like that wasn't necessarily from the good old days. The movie was from one of my fav. director called "Before Sunrise."


Punch Drunk Love is second on my list. Great movie.

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Tue 06/02/09 01:33 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 01:33 AM
Look like she finally got something purged out of her system.:smile:

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Tue 06/02/09 01:27 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 01:29 AM
I agree. I never said I didn't respect you as a person on the matter of what we were discussing about. The beliefs, well that is something else entirely. And I thank you for you feedback, and maybe, if you are willing, we can still have fun discussing other things as much as I assume we both enjoy discussing with others about whatevaa.



WHY must you convince people to do what you do? Why can you not accept people for their views and feelings? People do not fit in a neat little box of THUG'S views.. People all do things different ways... I think we should be thankful for that otherwise we'd all be going in circles...

Well if we can all elect myself as the glorious cupid, then everybody will be able to find love easily. That is why I think my view of the subject can be beneficial and practical for everyone who is in the process, or trying, to find the special someone in their lives.

Why hate the genius in me?

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Tue 06/02/09 01:04 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 01:05 AM
How about maybe you can agree with this analogy? Me and you are not a laser beam and a flashlight. How about me and you are dancers in a night club with different moves and totally 20 ft. apart, but not keeping our eyes away from each other while others are in the way of our view?



Ok you want to go there again? I was really asking sincerely to see your point of view.. Obviously you're not capable of a decent conversation if someone doesn't agree with you but has their own way of thinking..

I was not saying EVERYONE you dated... I would hope one wouldn't feel those feeelings for every person they dated...

You're a laser of nothing except talking in circles thinking you're smarter than you are.. Even proven wrong you keep going like one of those annoying wind up toys...

Who's asking anyone to go on about being a victim of past failures? Why must failures have a victim? I've not been a victim of anything.. I take responsibility for my actions and I guard my feelings closely so that I do not hurt others... I prefer to take my time to get to know someone and see what's there.. I may really really like them, but I don't ever want to confuse lust and infatuation for love THAT is why I do not jump to use those words..


I am capable of having a decent conversation. You are just being difficult due to my understanding of your misunderstanding of what points I am trying in vain to convey to you.

It is odd that you would go on about for the sake of others by protecting them from your feelings as it is nothing but bad feelings.

Taking your time proves the point. The more time you put in on trying to determine if you can actually have genuniune feeling is totally without merit a stupid and sad thing to do. It seems to me you think lust is parastitic to the word infatuation when in fact love is something in a total different realm of these urges. I don't know how one can be so confused of them being grouped up into one thing coupled with love being under them. I see all three of them clearly seperate.

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Tue 06/02/09 12:42 AM


That really ticks me. You see I have hard time seeing - that waiting for the feeling to be there before deciding to tell that person what you feel. It has to be inherently there first before it is actually be recognized by the faculty of your own mind to make sense of it. Feelings is not something like a plant that need to be watered and nurtured. It's already there before you have concieved it!


The issue is that it can be confused with lust and/or infatuation.
They are strong feelings and both affect chemicals in the brain. They are so strong that they can be confused with the feeling of love. It takes time to get past the stage of lust and/or infatuation. It takes time for love to develop and be nurtured. Love isn't an instantaneous feeling. Lust and infatuation are instant feelings. Love takes time to develop.

The same can be talked about with hate and anger. They are strong feelings too.



To me lust is a primal urge. It is not what I percieve by what the convention of what everyone else says on that matter as characterized as a feeling at all. Infatuation is mainly consist of intrusive thinking, or neurosis that is caused by the brian maybe. But I am not an neurologist to make that claim. So usually I find comfort that both can be the after-effect of the due process of what goes on in the brain, but love is an entirely different matter itself when it is something of an idealized feeling of something perfect and eternal. And sadly, can wither away when thinking about it may indeed make the feel of the feelings deteriorate to nothingness.

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Tue 06/02/09 12:34 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 12:35 AM
Trust me. I took my time to response to your quote. It is not because I percieve it to be your pretension to be accurate or anything, but I want to make clear of you have obviously made completely unclear.

I am a laser beam. You are a flashlight. The former loves to penetrate precisely where the mark is, while the latter seems to be trying to go on about seeing, once again, the "woods for the trees." LOL





That really ticks me. You see I have hard time seeing - that waiting for the feeling to be there before deciding to tell that person what you feel. It has to be inherently there first before it is actually be recognized by the faculty of your own mind to make sense of it. Feelings is not something like a plant that need to be watered and nurtured. It's already there before you have concieved it!


Haven't you ever felt a feeling that you questioned?

Yes or no. I am not sure what you mean. If you mean "questioned" as by scrutinizing it, then no because that would deny the feel of the feelings.

Have you ever thought you were in love and then realized you weren't?
I don't decieve myself of what love is actually is.

Do you want to tell everyone you date for a few weeks that you love them because one night you felt something really special?
Not everyone. Kinda a strange premise to say everyone I'd dated and then go on about seeing if I had one night of feeling that I love them all. That is impossible.

Why do you get ticked at what others do that is not being done to you?


Maybe I don't go on about being a victim of past failures. I don't know your life history, but...



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Tue 06/02/09 12:20 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 12:20 AM
Sorry your life is that sad that you cant enjoy the finer things in life. a man is there to be used. not the other way around...... try it you may like it. in life you have to enjoy and take risks.... i had on last night and cant remember wat his face looked like but can remember everything else it only human nature.... are you virgin



Well I think that it is fair for her to at least try to understand from her perspective, and possibly explore what she mean by this stance.

To me she has not say anything about the man was decieved at anyway by her using him. Some people don't mind being used by someone as long as the exchange is mutual from the both side of the party. You can say that in most cases in casual sex, one side usually play the role as the user while the other play the role of the used. So as long as one does not give false pretense to the other that there will be more than just sex afterward: like a meaningful relationship.

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Tue 06/02/09 12:03 AM
Edited by Thoughtfulthug on Tue 06/02/09 12:07 AM
That really ticks me. You see I have hard time seeing - that waiting for the feeling to be there before deciding to tell that person what you feel. It has to be inherently there first before it is actually be recognized by the faculty of your own mind to make sense of it. Feelings is not something like a plant that need to be watered and nurtured. It's already there before you have concieved it!

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