Topic: D.C.'s gun ban gets its day in court
Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:11 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 03/17/08 02:13 PM
I think there are some good arguments for the right to own firearms, but thinking it will help you if you need to resist a modern Army, you are focking crazy!


EVEN,,,,
If they dont have tanks or helicopters!!!

toastedoranges's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:24 PM
Or it was a modified semi-auto.


fyi, it was a mack 10

i said no, i'm not buying a gun from someone on the street. that's just nuts

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Mon 03/17/08 02:25 PM

I think there are some good arguments for the right to own firearms, but thinking it will help you if you need to resist a modern Army, you are focking crazy!


EVEN,,,,
If they dont have tanks or helicopters!!!



i would only hope that our service men wouldn't fight against the people

OrangeCat's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:26 PM
oh but toasted u know they would

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:37 PM
once again....any service man or woman who believe's in the vows he or she took would not fire upon U.S. citizens. Actually regardless of what they believe i've heard that something like 80% said that they wouldn't fire on American civilians. I know many that would join them though. Even if this weren't true if you change your tactics I.E. use guerrilla tactics, IEDs, etc. it is possible to fight an army being out gunned, equiped and manned. But once again.....i seriously doubt few, if any soldiers would fire on the American public.

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Mon 03/17/08 02:46 PM

oh but toasted u know they would


the ones that i've known, my brother included, would not. that action in itself would be unamerican. the military should never be used on the people

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Mon 03/17/08 02:46 PM
Propoganda is a heavy tool man!!frown

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Mon 03/17/08 02:48 PM


oh but toasted u know they would


the ones that i've known, my brother included, would not. that action in itself would be unamerican. the military should never be used on the people


If they won't!
The argument for defense is kinda silly then, right?

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Mon 03/17/08 02:49 PM


oh but toasted u know they would


the ones that i've known, my brother included, would not. that action in itself would be unamerican. the military should never be used on the people


yes u are right toasted

toastedoranges's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:50 PM
If they won't!
The argument for defense is kinda silly then, right?


no, not at all

Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/17/08 02:53 PM
Im for private ownership of firearms.

The argument that the right is granted, to resist Gov tyranny is not a good one!
Maybe in 1776, but not today...drinker

Self-defense, recreation, these are all good arguments.
The thought that you could stop a trained military unit is kinda ridiculous!!

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Mon 03/17/08 02:59 PM

Im for private ownership of firearms.

The argument that the right is granted, to resist Gov tyranny is not a good one!
Maybe in 1776, but not today...drinker

Self-defense, recreation, these are all good arguments.
The thought that you could stop a trained military unit is kinda ridiculous!!


that doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right to defend yourself or your rights if the government decides you don't need them anymore and will use force

Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/17/08 03:06 PM
OK,
But not a good argument!!

The Grunts are not what you see interviewed on CNN!

One Infantry platoon of grunts is
(est. on a good day)-36 MEN. They are mean, fit, often tired, scared, often sadistic, young, and full of a mixture heavy on brainwashing and hormones, and armed!

They are very familiar with their weapons, and shoot them often enough to be called an accurate shot.

What are you going to do???

toastedoranges's photo
Mon 03/17/08 03:09 PM
being that i've been shooting since the age of 5 and do so regularly? i'd lose, but i'd still do better than your average joe

Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/17/08 03:15 PM

being that i've been shooting since the age of 5 and do so regularly? i'd lose, but i'd still do better than your average joe


You'll never understand!

Even if it happened.
What would happen, say you put up a good resistance?
Anarchy, innocent lives lost, hunger, no play station????
World opinion, interference by foreign powers (now with a new motivation).

Are you prepared for that?huh huh

Id rather fight it with intelligence, and by not being complacent!!

toastedoranges's photo
Mon 03/17/08 03:17 PM
Edited by toastedoranges on Mon 03/17/08 03:23 PM
i'm more prepared than you'd think

Fanta46's photo
Mon 03/17/08 03:21 PM

i'm more prepared that you'd think


Now, if we want to pop a cap in some dumb as, who dont believe **** stanks, then I'm all for it!!!

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Mon 03/17/08 04:17 PM

Im for private ownership of firearms.

The argument that the right is granted, to resist Gov tyranny is not a good one!
Maybe in 1776, but not today...drinker

Self-defense, recreation, these are all good arguments.
The thought that you could stop a trained military unit is kinda ridiculous!!



yep that is what the british thought to

never underestimate the power of enough people

with no guns it would even be a harder job

with guns you can get bigger and better ones

but hopefully this will never come to be

Lordling's photo
Mon 03/17/08 04:27 PM

Im for private ownership of firearms.

The argument that the right is granted, to resist Gov tyranny is not a good one!
Maybe in 1776, but not today...drinker

Self-defense, recreation, these are all good arguments.
The thought that you could stop a trained military unit is kinda ridiculous!!


I daresay that you are missing the point....Rights are not granted - they are inherent & unalienable. They are either acknowledged by your government, or they are denied by force, whether it be economic pressure, public safety, martial action, etc.,etc.. Our Founding Fathers recognized that Natural Law trumps government authority. Many repeatedly stated that a standing army could not withstand an armed revolt by the majority of the people, and tailored the Constitution so that it might always be so - that we would always have recourse to Natural Law, and the arms to both protect our country AND overthrow our government, if necessary.

Lordling's photo
Mon 03/17/08 04:38 PM




all i can say is this, those in the military have taken an oath to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. If the government tries to disban firearms there will be a big mess as servicemen will be obligated to tell them all to kick rocks. My problem is they will do it slowly. Limiting your ability to buy them little by little as they have been doing. This, by definition, is an infringement of our right to keep and bear arms. There really is no argument to what they mentioned in the constitution. There are just being trying to twist words in their favor. Hopefully there will be no further firearm restrictions. But you all know and i know there will be.


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i hope that is a good thing




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