so why would anyone want to remove the ability for
an honest citizen to get a gun if the criminal
will always be able to get them

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I aint saying they should,I think all the honest people do need them

in dc you will not be able to protect you family with a gun withou bn a criminal yourself

gun ownership in dc is banned

not regulated banned

glad I live in TX then.

the reason for this thread

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/94658

is because of this thread
and when the govt out laws gun ownership
(which is a treasonous act)

they will need a place to dispose of those
fighting the injustices bn inacted by the govt
which ish granted by the declaration of independance
and the constitution

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IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world

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****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACOUNTABL AND ENFORCE THE DECALRATION OF INDEPENDANCE

ENTER THE 2ND AMMENDMENT

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U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment

Second Amendment - Bearing Arms

Amendment Text | Annotations

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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DEFINITIONS

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Main Entry: in•fringe
Pronunciation: in-'frinj
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing
Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break
transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

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to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another

en•croach (n-krch)
intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

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peo•ple (ppl)
n. pl. people
1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people.
2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality.
3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life.
4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people.
5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson.
6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the.
7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people.
8. Family, relatives, or ancestors.
9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people

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SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS)

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS)

TO BEAR ARMS

WHO IS GOING TOENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

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AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men

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WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE

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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

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AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT

DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT

IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE

AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED

AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER

AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS

WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

again i will say if you don't want a gun...don't get one.

but if it becomes illegal...then i will still do what i have to do to protect myself and loved ones

should not those that live elsewhere be up in arms about another part of the country having their rights violated

after all

when they took them in dc

i did nothing it did not effect me

when they took them in maryland

i did nothing it did not effect me

when they took them in new york

i did nothing it did not effect me

whent hey took them in p a

i did nothing it did not effect me

when they took them in virginia

i did nothing it did not effect me

and so on and so forth

and when they came to take them from (insert your state here)

i looked for help put no one was left to get help from

maybe just a thought here

we should help to keep it from becoming illegal

good thought ...........

i think if you believe in something you should stand up for it

i don't however see many Texans giving up their guns without a fight.

i mean hose stealing is still a crime punishable by death here last i checked

oops...meant horse stealing....not hose

why are u stealing hoses for

because mama wouldn't get me a pony when i was little

you totally mis my point

texas may be big but when everywhere else has already been done in texas will fall by th the way as well

it would be easier to stop it b4 it gets that far

i know alot of other states that will fight...OK for one.

all we can do is stand up for our beliefs

there are people in every state that will fight

but unless it is a unified effort

it is nill

the fed is to big if you let the snow ball start down the mountain

with out applying the heat

b4 long it will be unstoppable

deserves repeating

all i can say is this, those in the military have taken an oath to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. If the government tries to disban firearms there will be a big mess as servicemen will be obligated to tell them all to kick rocks. My problem is they will do it slowly. Limiting your ability to buy them little by little as they have been doing. This, by definition, is an infringement of our right to keep and bear arms. There really is no argument to what they mentioned in the constitution. There are just being trying to twist words in their favor. Hopefully there will be no further firearm restrictions. But you all know and i know there will be.

amen

yep