Topic: Jesus and God
James1234567's photo
Tue 03/04/08 04:55 PM
flowerforyou flowerforyou babs218

babs218's photo
Tue 03/04/08 05:01 PM
thank you...happy i could add something meaninful

wouldee's photo
Tue 03/04/08 05:03 PM
flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

babs218's photo
Tue 03/04/08 05:08 PM
:heart: i'm new here so t/y.....

anoasis's photo
Tue 03/04/08 05:23 PM
No. That is not what I personally believe. But to each their own as long as you harm none...

flowerforyou


alon4now's photo
Tue 03/04/08 05:25 PM

No. That is not what I personally believe. But to each their own as long as you harm none...

flowerforyou




And this is how it should be but is not.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 03/04/08 06:15 PM

does anyone here beleive that jesus and god are the same


I'm a pantheist. I believe that all is God. flowerforyou

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 03/04/08 06:26 PM
I do. If not my life would not have any sense at all.
My life is justified through my Lord Jesus Christ who is God itself, the same as the Father and the Holy Spirit.

1956CLEO's photo
Tue 03/04/08 06:40 PM


God the Father
God the Son, took on form of flesh (Jesus)
God the holy Spirit (dwells with us here on earth)

Yes.......flowerforyou


drinker drinker :smile: :smile: thats right


Yes!

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Wed 03/05/08 09:11 AM
i was curious on the rspoonse i would get from this.i think it did pretty good.i think that as long as you beleive in God, thats all that should matter.

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 03/05/08 10:50 AM
as long as you beleive in God, thats all that should matter.


Why should that matter?

There are a lot of atheists who seem to have more peace in their lives than a lot of religious people.

For me, it's totally irrelevant whether or not a God exists.

I don't based my behavior or my life on whether or not a God exists.

Consider this, if the only thing that can make our existence meaningful is the existence of a God, then it should also be true that God’s existence can only be meaningful if it also has a higher God, and so on.

Looking to the existence of a God to give meaning to your existence, is no differnet that looking to a God as an explanation for the creation of all that exists. It’s a redundant answer because it merely ignores the fact that we then have a God who has no explanation for its creation. It’s just an artificial ideal to try to answer an unanswerable question, but it doesn’t really work. An unexplained God doesn’t ‘explain’ anything.

My cousin was arguing that Heaven must exist to give this life purpose.

The problem with that idea is that if the only thing that explains this existence is the next existence, then Heaven would need to have yet another type of existence after it, otherwise it would have no ‘purpose’.

When are people going to realize that this life is its own purpose? Giving the next life more value than this life is to do nothing other than to belittle and depreciate this life. It doesn’t add to it, it actually depreciates it.

We would all be better off being atheists. Besides, just think of how proud God must be of the atheists who live their life righteous without any belief that they will be given a reward for their efforts. Contrast that with the people who supposedly believe in a God who is judgmental and still fail to be righteous. How much more proud would God be of the atheists who are naturally righteous without any expectations of rewards? They must be his ultimate pride and joy. flowerforyou

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Wed 03/05/08 10:58 AM
we all have a different opinion

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 03/05/08 11:00 AM
If they are the same. How could satan possibly tell him he would give him the world if he would worship him. Who was he talking about with his answer? Blessings...Miles

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Wed 03/05/08 11:02 AM
i have no idea who he would be talking to.probably himself

beautyfrompain's photo
Wed 03/05/08 01:28 PM
Indeed!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ~John 1:1~


And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. ~John 1:14~

Jesus is the Word!



Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 03/05/08 01:39 PM
so if i understand right.the messiah went around all the time talking to himself? Is that what you all are sayingg? Blessings...Miles

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Wed 03/05/08 01:46 PM

so if i understand right.the messiah went around all the time talking to himself? Is that what you all are sayingg? Blessings...Miles


The Father, Son and Holy Spirit each have their own intellect, they are seperate beings. But the Father and Son share their spirit, the Holy Spirit. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE God. While Jesus was alive on earth, he had a human spirit. Thus Jesus had to pray to make miracles. Thus the Spirit of God was able to decend upon Jesus like a dove. Thus, God was able to turn away from Jesus, while he was dying upon the cross. Thus, Jesus could be tempted, because he had a human spirit, instead of the Holy Spirit.

To believe that Jesus didn't create the Universe or that Jesus isn't God, one would have to disregard many many verses in both the New and Old Testaments.

babs218's photo
Wed 03/05/08 01:51 PM
Edited by babs218 on Wed 03/05/08 01:53 PM
i wouldn't say the messiah went around doing a lot of talking to himself.........but doing a lot of talking to enlighten people......trying to bring the word of GOD forth.......same way he still does thru the written word to enlighten people such as yourself.......to miles

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 03/05/08 01:58 PM
Ok. Tell me why Satan would even think to offer Yahshua the world if he would bow down to him?..Blessings...Miles

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Wed 03/05/08 02:03 PM

Ok. Tell me why Satan would even think to offer Yahshua the world if he would bow down to him?..Blessings...Miles


I'm going to assume you are addressing me...

From my earlier post...


Thus, Jesus could be tempted, because he had a human spirit, instead of the Holy Spirit.