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God so loved the world that he gave his only son so that whoever believeth in him shall have everlasting life...john 3:16......that says it all King James Version (KJV) Public Domain 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. you forgot some |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 03/07/08 02:41 PM
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i still have to say that jesus is not a god i'm sorry. i don't think your right.  He has an ancient world religion named after him doesnt he? I think that qualifys him to be called a god whether you likeit or not bro. Jesus is one of the most popular and succesful gods that have ever existed. Your denying the obvious Are you saying that their isnt a major world religion named Christianity?? Your proving he's a god right now with your own words. Your talking about a man who has been gone for 2000 years
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i still have to say that jesus is not a god i'm sorry. i don't think your right. He has an ancient world religion named after him doesnt he? I think that qualifys him to be called a god whether you likeit or not bro. Jesus is one of the most popular and succesful gods that have ever existed. Your denying the obvious Are you saying that their isnt a major world religion named Christianity?? Your proving he's a god right now with your own words. Your talking about a man who has been gone for 2000 years
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How can you say that.just because he's been gone for 200 years doesn't mean he's God,or a God.What Bible are you reading from.It says in the Bible that he is the son of God,not a God.
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I'm not trying to argue over it!!
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SORRY I UPSET ANYONE OVER THIS, I HAVE TO GET BACK TO WORK. SEE EVERYONE TOMORROW SOMETIME.
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How can you say that.just because he's been gone for 200 years doesn't mean he's God,or a God.What Bible are you reading from.It says in the Bible that he is the son of God,not a God. |
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How can you say that.just because he's been gone for 200 years doesn't mean he's God,or a God.What Bible are you reading from.It says in the Bible that he is the son of God,not a God. |
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Adam, which was the son of God. Luke 3:38 When they talk about the son of God they mean Adam. It is not Jesus like some people mistakenly think. Look here at this verse it is very clear. |
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SORRY I UPSET ANYONE OVER THIS, I HAVE TO GET BACK TO WORK. SEE EVERYONE TOMORROW SOMETIME.  Your cool bro. I think you really are a goodguy
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 03/07/08 04:41 PM
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Jesus influenced you to post on this thread saying you believe or disbelieve he's a god and he's been gone for 2000 years. Obviously that name bears some influence on you and the world around you or you wouldnt be here. Whether you believe it or not. He's probably the most famous person that ever lived and probably always will be. Whether you believe it or not He has an ancient religion named after him Jesus is probably the most succesful and popular god ever whether you believe in him or not. And probably always will be That is a god
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Edited by
wouldee
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Fri 03/07/08 04:49 PM
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Adam, which was the son of God. Luke 3:38 When they talk about the son of God they mean Adam. It is not Jesus like some people mistakenly think. Look here at this verse it is very clear. Rabbit, down the hole again? 
'the son of' is implied in English in all texts. Not there in the Greek. The "SON" of God, Jesus, IS a word present in the Greek texts and is used in conjuction with '-of God'. But you know that. the word used in Luke, which BTW, is implied through the whole of chapter three. now you know. good to see you making people read their Bible, but can't let such a thing go by, Rabbit. You know that. I bit! 
 
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Adam, which was the son of God. Luke 3:38 When they talk about the son of God they mean Adam. It is not Jesus like some people mistakenly think. Look here at this verse it is very clear. The verse begins in Luke 3,23 and is the Genealogy of Jesus. You chose the very last line. The verse before that Luke 3, 22 says as Jesus was baptised .and the Holy Spirit descended upon him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven "you are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased." wabbit, you can't just go by 1 verse. It just doesn't work that way. Good try though.
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 03/07/08 08:43 PM
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It seems that most of you just want to discuss mysticism. Not comparitve religion. Debating mystcism is akin to a man, wounded by an arrow, wanting to know all the details of being wounded by an arrow. The Buddha said that.
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Edited by
revolution
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Fri 03/07/08 09:11 PM
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my "personal" belief is that they are one in spirit but two different being working as one...All three(father,son,holy spirit) work as one in some way unknown to myself...the bible talks about Jesus being a created being {col:15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation} then it talks about him being with God (john:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.)then at the end of revelation they talk about worshiping God and Jesus (Rev 22:3 The throne of God AND of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve HIM.) If God and Jesus are embodied within each other why wouldnt it say Gods throne was just there????? By reading the bible I fully understand that if you've seen Jesus you've seen God, he walks, talks, thinks and acts according to God ways.....I guess the best way to describe how I feel about God and Jesus is marraige, the bible talks about the two becoming one flesh,even know a married christian couple is two people the bible states the two become one and some how I think this reflects God and Jesus in a way( I hope I havent confused anyone lol I find it hard to explain myself sometimes) I say that to say its all still a mystery to how the heavens work so Im not sold on the idea  I guess stay tuned more will be revealed
john10: 31 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me? john 10:33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." john 5:18For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. Yes people thats why they killed him cause he was claiming to be equal to God...thats how the jews understood what he was saying.... phil 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in very nature[a] God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! 9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Its funny how even Jesus doesnt put his self on the same level as "GOD" in addition to God exalting him as its written in the text....leading me to believe they are different in form but one with each other...its funny how everyone has the "I know" attitude about this topic but none of us know for sure....I believe we are all on the same side so please lets stop bashing each other and respect each persons thoughts.... thanks and have a blessed day
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Edited by
revolution
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Fri 03/07/08 09:29 PM
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I thought this was a cool text about God and Jesus:
cor 15:24-28 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he "has put everything under his feet."[a] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. I just dont think they are the same being...to many scrpitures like this one in the bible... |
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i still have to say that jesus is not a god i'm sorry. i don't think your right. after reading this for days I would have to agree with you I agreed with mirror before but I think i miss understood what she was saying anyways GOD is the only GOD Jesus is not GOD nor is he a GOD since there can only be 1 GOD |
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Well mirror, for you to be saying that we're dumb is just wrong.and we're obviously not as dumb as others. yes jesus had a religion,but he was no God.that would make 2 Gods,and that would be breaking one of the 10 commandments.  DUDE, HE HAS A RELIGION NAMED AFTER HIM, JUST LIKE THE BUDDHA. BILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOVE AND WORSHIP THEM. THAT MAKES THEM GODS. CANT YOU SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL??? WHAT DO YOU THINK A GOD IS? ITS A PERSON OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WORSHIP. BY ITS VERY DEFINITION THEY ARE GODS. WHY CANT YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE GET THIS YOUR ASKIN A QUESTION ABOUT A MAN WHO LIVED 2000 YEARS AGO AND WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. THATS WHAT IT IS TO BE A GOD.
I dont agree with your saying he will never be forgotten because his name has already been taken out of schools and court rooms and it also no longer says in GOD WE TRUST on anything it is just a matter of time before the government tries to ban talk of christ at all it all starts with the seperation of church and state |
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i still have to say that jesus is not a god i'm sorry. i don't think your right. after reading this for days I would have to agree with you I agreed with mirror before but I think i miss understood what she was saying anyways GOD is the only GOD Jesus is not GOD nor is he a GOD since there can only be 1 GOD There are other religions with vast influence, there are other gods. Whether real or unreal they have vast influence over human affairs. That is what I am saying. Jesus is obviously a god by all definitions of the word.
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Well mirror, for you to be saying that we're dumb is just wrong.and we're obviously not as dumb as others. yes jesus had a religion,but he was no God.that would make 2 Gods,and that would be breaking one of the 10 commandments. DUDE, HE HAS A RELIGION NAMED AFTER HIM, JUST LIKE THE BUDDHA. BILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOVE AND WORSHIP THEM. THAT MAKES THEM GODS. CANT YOU SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL??? WHAT DO YOU THINK A GOD IS? ITS A PERSON OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WORSHIP. BY ITS VERY DEFINITION THEY ARE GODS. WHY CANT YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE GET THIS YOUR ASKIN A QUESTION ABOUT A MAN WHO LIVED 2000 YEARS AGO AND WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. THATS WHAT IT IS TO BE A GOD.
I dont agree with your saying he will never be forgotten because his name has already been taken out of schools and court rooms and it also no longer says in GOD WE TRUST on anything it is just a matter of time before the government tries to ban talk of christ at all it all starts with the seperation of church and state Its has all happened before and will all happen again. Something that has been around for 2000 years doesnt just disapear. Its pretty much guaranteed that Christianity will be around for at least hundreds maybe thousands of years more. Its has survived much worse. Just look in a history book.
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