Topic: Hillary Supporter Belittles McCain's POW Ordeal
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Wed 03/05/08 04:29 PM


I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time


what was I thinking...it's your valid concern...which is as usual worthless...laugh laugh


Because you and I are equal mine is as worthless as yours.flowerforyou


your not even close to being my equal...I have a conscience that encourages me to tell the truth, not lies....and as far as your concerns for McCain why is it that professional people out there with far more educations and intelligence than you who were working with candidates opposing McCain never dug up any evidence that McCain had any problem with being a POW....and none has surfaced from Obama or Clinton...yes, your concerns are anything but genuine...laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 11:10 PM





Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.



Dragoness..... I stand corrected.



Symbelmyne ..... Since you brought up psuedo, please read the above.

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Wed 03/05/08 11:31 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 03/05/08 11:42 PM

cant blame hilary for that saw it on the news


True. You can't blame Hillary for what Gloria Steinem says.
Steinem has always been an outspoken person of her own accord.

Also, being a POW does not equal qualifications for President.
I don't consider being a POW as being a plus qualification.

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Wed 03/05/08 11:33 PM


cant blame hilary for that saw it on the news


True. You can't blame Hillary for what Gloria Steinam says.

Also, being a POW does not equal qualifications for President.




Hey, if the left can blame Bush for everything, then the right can blame Hillary for everything.

Being a POW is one of many things McCain brings to the table. It is not his only qualification and no one ever said it was, except for the Left Liberals.

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Wed 03/05/08 11:43 PM
Hey, if the left can blame Bush for everything, then the right can blame Hillary for everything.

And you'd both be right, ugh,,,,,,,left.laugh laugh laugh

Hillary has never had the power to actually do anything.
She does try to take credit for others accomplishments though.

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Thu 03/06/08 03:26 AM

What mission?? I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time. He is a POW which along with all the honor and consideration comes long standing mental health issues. It is a valid concern.


would it not then be valid concern to have someone whose judgement is clouded with past years of protest rallies to lead the country in the time of war?

could they handle the responsibility then to protect this country, the menn already in a war, and possible confrontations in the future?

or is that not an evalutable concern for the job.

there is noway that that could possibly impair their ability to run the whitehouse, could it?

oh, and heres a good one, do they know how to use the military, what is their experience in this regard?

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Thu 03/06/08 06:39 AM

What mission?? I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time. He is a POW which along with all the honor and consideration comes long standing mental health issues. It is a valid concern.



EXCUSE ME!

Please provide us with the information you are using to prove President to be John McCain has ANY type of mental health issue.

Are you upset because he is the ONLY candidate with such an EXTENSIVELY LONG history of EXPERIENCE?

Really, get real. If he had ANY type of a problem, John McCain would NOT have been in the political field for any length of time.

Your opinions are just that "YOUR" opinions. They are all in vain.

Lindyy

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Thu 03/06/08 06:48 AM
Edited by symbelmyne on Thu 03/06/08 06:49 AM
For arguments sake, lets say that America is at "war"...ok, the outgoing administration started the conflict (whether your pro or con isnt the issue here)and now Americans are faced with having to choose a new administration....my question is; do Americans want someone who will continue the war or end it? Im assuming you want to end it,,,,right?
I still think the 2-party system leaves voters between a rock and hard place..but thats how it is over there.

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Thu 03/06/08 06:56 AM
Im assuming you want to end it,,,,right?


yes...end it right.....to cut and run isn't ending it right, in fact it isn't ending it..that will only change the venue..

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Thu 03/06/08 06:59 AM


cant blame hilary for that saw it on the news


True. You can't blame Hillary for what Gloria Steinem says.
Steinem has always been an outspoken person of her own accord.

Also, being a POW does not equal qualifications for President.
I don't consider being a POW as being a plus qualification.


True, however it is an experience few people have. This gives him a different perspective on certain issues. Perhaps his military experience will give him better knowlege concerning military affairs. And that, in itself, is definately a plus qualification.

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Thu 03/06/08 07:05 AM
I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...noway

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Thu 03/06/08 07:16 AM

I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...noway


actually i would be more afraid of someone with no experience like Obama NOT following what his advisors tell him to do. I am afraid that he will actually try to take charge and try to do things HIS way.

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Thu 03/06/08 07:25 AM


I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...noway


actually i would be more afraid of someone with no experience like Obama NOT following what his advisors tell him to do. I am afraid that he will actually try to take charge and try to do things HIS way.


either way it isn't a great senario...I don't understand why anyone would want to take a change to put someone in a job whose qualifications are not sufficient.....

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Thu 03/06/08 07:43 AM
im thinking people are blindly wanting change. Change is good, but, the only problem is that they don't look into what the changes will be, how they will work, etc. This a little scary since most of the candidates that are preaching change are wanting more bureaucracy. One thing they keep forgetting to ask themselves is when has to government taking more control over things ever gone well? But again, they don't care. They want change change change.

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Thu 03/06/08 07:48 AM

im thinking people are blindly wanting change. Change is good, but, the only problem is that they don't look into what the changes will be, how they will work, etc. This a little scary since most of the candidates that are preaching change are wanting more bureaucracy. One thing they keep forgetting to ask themselves is when has to government taking more control over things ever gone well? But again, they don't care. They want change change change.


I think that the change that the American voter is looking for is not being offered by any of the candidates....but I agree with your statement. People want change, any change.

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Thu 03/06/08 07:52 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 03/06/08 07:53 AM
no, unfortunately the real changes that american voters need/are looking for aren't being offered by any candidate. Kinda reminds me of last election... Im sick of this "picking the lesser evil" crap.

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Thu 03/06/08 07:53 AM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Thu 03/06/08 07:54 AM

no, unfortunately the real changes that american voters need/are looking for aren't being offered by any candidate. Kinda reminds me of last election...Im sick of this "picking the lesser evil" crap.


your right but there is hope....please don't jump...noway


laugh

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Thu 03/06/08 08:00 AM
wwweeeeee!!! :wink:

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Thu 03/06/08 08:18 AM

I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...noway


Yes, but then again Bush had absolutely no experience in military affairs. Unless you consider the Air National Guard , where he was absent from duty most of the time.

He blindly relied on Cheney and Rummy to guide us there ignoring the advice of all the experienced Generals who told him it was unnecessary and what would happen.

He didnt go in with any plan for the occupation and is responsible for the cluster-**** we have experienced since.

Hell, several Generals retired, even Powell quit because his advice was never heeded.

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Thu 03/06/08 08:20 AM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Thu 03/06/08 08:24 AM


I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...noway


Yes, but then again Bush had absolutely no experience in military affairs. Unless you consider the Air National Guard , where he was absent from duty most of the time.

He blindly relied on Cheney and Rummy to guide us there ignoring the advice of all the experienced Generals who told him it was unnecessary and what would happen.

He didnt go in with any plan for the occupation and is responsible for the cluster-**** we have experienced since.

Hell, several Generals retired, even Powell quit because his advice was never heeded.



then all the more reason to elect McCain...:tongue:

oh and your info on Bush is incorrect....noway