Topic: Hillary Supporter Belittles McCain's POW Ordeal
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Wed 03/05/08 10:39 AM




The psychological effects of being a pow is a valid concern for a president. He will not show the effects externally but mentally may not be well from it. This is a valid consideration. Vets have alot of long term effects from war and pow have more.


If the man was deranged or some sort of manchurian canidate I think that enough years have passed to assertain his mental capabilities. thats all I am saying about it. would it have been a concern, yeah maybe 35 years ago.


I think doc has a valid point. I would say that to enter politics requiers a certian bit of insanity...McCain has enough on his political record to use against him without lowering to personal attacks.
Loved the Manchurian Candidate...great movie, but Im sticking with the original. The remake was a bit too over done for my tastes.


Not a personal attack at all. In war time a POW complex of any kind will be a concern. The effects from war are life long they do no ever go away all the way.

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Wed 03/05/08 10:49 AM





The psychological effects of being a pow is a valid concern for a president. He will not show the effects externally but mentally may not be well from it. This is a valid consideration. Vets have alot of long term effects from war and pow have more.


If the man was deranged or some sort of manchurian canidate I think that enough years have passed to assertain his mental capabilities. thats all I am saying about it. would it have been a concern, yeah maybe 35 years ago.


I think doc has a valid point. I would say that to enter politics requiers a certian bit of insanity...McCain has enough on his political record to use against him without lowering to personal attacks.
Loved the Manchurian Candidate...great movie, but Im sticking with the original. The remake was a bit too over done for my tastes.


Not a personal attack at all. In war time a POW complex of any kind will be a concern. The effects from war are life long they do no ever go away all the way.


Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?

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Wed 03/05/08 10:54 AM


Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway

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Wed 03/05/08 11:05 AM
Edited by armydoc4u on Wed 03/05/08 11:06 AM



Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway


and the flip side to that is how many people dont get ptsd. its not the flu or aids or anything like that. to assume that every individual gets ptsd is like saying every woman has PMS all the time. or that every man is a sexist because he married a woman and not a man, come on, really, now he's post traumatic? maybe 35 years ago but i thinks hes alright now dont you?


with that ladies, I have to say its been rather fun and hope to see you all later, but doc's gotto run.

peace to all, im outty



DOC

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Wed 03/05/08 11:14 AM



Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.

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Wed 03/05/08 11:32 AM




Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.

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Wed 03/05/08 11:47 AM



Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway


oh so that's were you got your training.....that explains a lot..laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 11:57 AM


perhaps you should watch Fox News they played the entire statement the woman said what was quoted in the original post. That's ok though the more Hillary supporter who put their foot in their mouth the clearer the true immage of the Hillabeast becomes. laugh


oh, Im sorry, I should have been more specific,,,I meant CREDIBLE NEWS sources...not conjuncture and opinion..I can come up with those for myself.
laugh laugh


Fox news just showed the tape of her comment, they didn't put the words in her mouth so cut the spin I wish one time when the facts don't favor the Liberal Socialist they would have the guts to accept responsibility for it. Perhaps you should check NBC, CBS, or ABC I am sure they have the same tape. Oh I forgot moveon.org is the only "credible" liberal socialist news source laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 12:00 PM
Manchurian Candidate, that was a Movie, FICTION, say it with me all you liberal socialists "Not Real" "Movie" "Fiction" "Not Real" laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 12:20 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Wed 03/05/08 12:21 PM

Manchurian Candidate, that was a Movie, FICTION, say it with me all you liberal socialists "Not Real" "Movie" "Fiction" "Not Real" laugh laugh


it may be not real to you and most other people but for them, they have a different reality...laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 12:41 PM





Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy

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Wed 03/05/08 01:10 PM






Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.

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Wed 03/05/08 01:22 PM







Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.


right your concern is real and valid...laugh

first you claim all POW's suffer PTSD....not true..

second McCain does not exhibit any of the traits affecting POW's suffering PSTD...

POWs in the past have suffered posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a group of disabling symptoms such as inability to concentrate, extreme vigilance, and exaggerated fearfulness.

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Wed 03/05/08 01:25 PM








Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.


right your concern is real and valid...laugh

first you claim all POW's suffer PTSD....not true..

second McCain does not exhibit any of the traits affecting POW's suffering PSTD...

POWs in the past have suffered posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a group of disabling symptoms such as inability to concentrate, extreme vigilance, and exaggerated fearfulness.



Actually he does show all of those from what I have seen of him. So that is why he looks so frail to me, thanks, I was wondering if his health was bad or something.

You have inadvertently shown me to be right, thanksflowerforyou

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Wed 03/05/08 01:31 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Wed 03/05/08 01:32 PM









Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.


right your concern is real and valid...laugh

first you claim all POW's suffer PTSD....not true..

second McCain does not exhibit any of the traits affecting POW's suffering PSTD...

POWs in the past have suffered posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a group of disabling symptoms such as inability to concentrate, extreme vigilance, and exaggerated fearfulness.



Actually he does show all of those from what I have seen of him. So that is why he looks so frail to me, thanks, I was wondering if his health was bad or something.

You have inadvertently shown me to be right, thanksflowerforyou



oh yes he doesn't have the ability to concentrate and since he looks tired he must be ready to blow up the world ...tell me something....what's it like living in your little world..laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 01:34 PM










Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.


right your concern is real and valid...laugh

first you claim all POW's suffer PTSD....not true..

second McCain does not exhibit any of the traits affecting POW's suffering PSTD...

POWs in the past have suffered posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a group of disabling symptoms such as inability to concentrate, extreme vigilance, and exaggerated fearfulness.



Actually he does show all of those from what I have seen of him. So that is why he looks so frail to me, thanks, I was wondering if his health was bad or something.

You have inadvertently shown me to be right, thanksflowerforyou



oh yes he doesn't have the ability to concentrate and since he looks tired he must be ready to blow up the world ...tell me something....what's it like living in your little world..laugh laugh


My world is just fine thanks to youflowerforyou

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Wed 03/05/08 01:39 PM











Dragoness......

I just looked at your profile to ascertain what your profession is and discovered you are not in the field of mental health in any capacity. So, how can you assess McCain and claim he has a POW complex that will never go away or will partially remain? Do you know him personally? Do you know someone who has intimate knowledge about him?


Kriest!!! who doesnt know about PTSD?? Theres only like a billion "psuedo-therapist" on TV all talking about trauma....pleeeeeze. noway




DRAGONESS........

Psuedo is the key word .... means fake/fiction.


I did not write that so wrong person addressed here.

My step dad was a medic in vietnam, he talked to me of these things. He had some of it himself, not severe, but he had it and it never went away. He died in his mid forties so I cannot vouch that it would never have went away but he had it until he died. Other vets speak out on it all the time. All you have to do is check out the veteran websites and PTSS sites they have all kinds of information.


dragon:

Will you ever stop the hatemonger remarks?

McCain is a fine and upstanding citizen, with NO mental issues. He has a PROVEN record of mental stability. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SO AFRAID OF.

Otherwise, why do you keep attacking him?

Can you honestly make the same claim about yourself?

This whole issue of yours against PRESIDENT TO BE JOHN McCAIN is totally disgusting.

Get a life.

Lindyy



No hatemongering, it is a valid concern. POWs suffer long term effects from their trauma. A war time president needs to not have existing war issues. He obviously will. Not hating on him, my concern is real and valid.


right your concern is real and valid...laugh

first you claim all POW's suffer PTSD....not true..

second McCain does not exhibit any of the traits affecting POW's suffering PSTD...

POWs in the past have suffered posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a group of disabling symptoms such as inability to concentrate, extreme vigilance, and exaggerated fearfulness.



Actually he does show all of those from what I have seen of him. So that is why he looks so frail to me, thanks, I was wondering if his health was bad or something.

You have inadvertently shown me to be right, thanksflowerforyou



oh yes he doesn't have the ability to concentrate and since he looks tired he must be ready to blow up the world ...tell me something....what's it like living in your little world..laugh laugh



My world is just fine thanks to youflowerforyou


I just found something for you to carry on your little mission..

you'll notice that no one has made any comments or added any material...you can be the first...and probably last..laugh laugh

"Please help provide the information we need to determine if John McCain suffers from a psychiatric condition as a result of his service in the military."

http://manmadechange.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/mccain-and-pstd/

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Wed 03/05/08 01:44 PM
What mission?? I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time. He is a POW which along with all the honor and consideration comes long standing mental health issues. It is a valid concern.

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Wed 03/05/08 01:50 PM
I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time


what was I thinking...it's your valid concern...which is as usual worthless...laugh laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 01:53 PM

I have a valid concern over his ability to run this country in war time


what was I thinking...it's your valid concern...which is as usual worthless...laugh laugh


Because you and I are equal mine is as worthless as yours.flowerforyou