Not....

oh so you have some proof to back up your accusations or are you just going to duck and run like you usually do..if you're going say it's irrelevant because Bush is on his way out why do you bother to bash him?

One of at least 20,,,,,,

Zinni was U.S. special envoy to the Middle East for Secretary of State Colin L. Powell from November 2002 to March 2003.

A passage written by Zinni voiced support for the views of retired Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, the former Army chief of staff, whose estimate that several hundred thousand troops would be needed in postwar Iraq was dismissed by the administration as wildly off the mark. "Recently, the Army chief of staff testified that we would need 300,000 troops to pacify Iraq," Zinni wrote. "Everybody in the military knew he was right. But the party line down from the Pentagon decreed that the number was half that, and he was pilloried."

Zinni, 60, appeared last night on CBS's "60 Minutes" and said that staying the course in Iraq is not feasible. "The course is headed over Niagara Falls," he said. "I think it's time to change course a little bit or at least hold somebody responsible for putting you on this course." He said the current situation is the product of "poor strategic thinking" combined with "poor operational planning and execution on the ground."

Zinni was one of the earliest and most outspoken critics of the war and remains highly regarded in the military. He was commander of the U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000. He wrote that when he left, he had a preliminary plan for attacking Iraq. "I'm not sure where it went after I left. As far as I can tell, the plan was pigeonholed," he said.

^^^^...you must be related to madamn, dragon and that other stooge....

Want more?
Or are the blinders causing blank spots to appear on the page...
Its very relevant. I just think we should wait until the criminals are no longer in office to prosecute them... I remember Watergate and the damage that did to the morale of the country!!

Im a Vet..

Are you??

you still going on about that stuff...if he's half the criminal you think he is was was he not impeached....

really?....what are you a vet of?

and what point are you trying to make??...

Quit putting the cart before the horse!

Veteran, E-5, US Army Infantry!!
Good enough?

These men are vets too.


"Serious mistakes [were made] in the immediate aftermath of the fall of Baghdad," Colin Powell, former secretary of state and Joint Chiefs chairman, said in a speech last week. "We didn't have enough troops on the ground. We didn't impose our will. As a result an insurgency got started, and it got out of control."

In this, Powell echoed former Army chief of staff Gen. Eric Shinseki, who told Congress just weeks before the 2003 invasion that several hundred thousand US troops would be necessary to secure Iraq after the invasion. For this he was publicly contradicted by then Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. Rumsfeld named General Shinseki's replacement a year before he was to retire and broke custom by not attending his retirement ceremony.

Where is ole-Rummy?

Oh yea, he was a fall guy for one of the many coincidences of the Bush Administration.

Want more???

I missed the point you are trying to make about being a vet...

and it would be nice if you could paste some factual info instead of all that worthless hearsay

weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion
weeks before the 2003 invasion

7 times so you can memorize it.

I saw a long time ago that the 28% of the population that still believe the lies of Bush are hopelessly blind.

Being a Vet gives me a little part in the lives and Deaths of every young man and woman that fights this ridiculous unnecessary war.

I have put everything I have on the line for this country. I am not like the multitude of internet Generals who proclaim the righteousness of the war, yet have never been willing to step forward and sacrifice anything themselves!!!

They just sit by and watch their entire life!!

soooooooooo.........

good morning fellows, hows the going at it?

Where'd he go?
To try the Bush ploy of digging up smut on Generals that dont agree with his analogy of the Iraq war?

At least when you do it Doc you have a vested interest in it.

Still wrong, but vested!!

Remember the game Where's Waldo?

We need one called Where's Rummy???

so you asked for proof, you were given proof and your answer to that is to attack the person? THAT speaks volumes.

Thank you

I actually enjoy the show though!

well, you know us bleeding-heart, commie-lovn', anti-american, libbers gotta stick together!

I must have missed something, i'll go back and read the thread again. Proof? of what?