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theres two sides to all stories in this so cant make a true judgement because we dont have the womens point of view...its great that you fight for your country respect due, and if this women has cheated because shes lonely etc then obviously in the wrong kind of relationship...and should have told you this before you went away...but if theres other factors involved then maybe its best its over for both sides...take care over there if you go back
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And I am entitled to my opinion, as controversial as it may appear... Tell me, who supports the woman emotionally while hubby is off playing GI Joe? Who holds her? Hugs her when she is down? Who shows her the same respect as this whole crapola mindset that because you are a soldier you are now a god, whilst family can just suck it up for a year, or so, till the returning hero arrives? There are always two sides to the story? Who know if this guy is a violent wife beater, who is so screwed up with PTSD, he doesn't know his arms from his legs? You get an OP that whines about unfaithful women... and everyone immediately tip toes because he is a soldier??? GIMME A BREAK...  I don't care if he's a soldier, a trucker, a pilot, or whatever. If you can't handle someone being gone, then don't date them! Yes, we are going off the assumption that all he's done wrong is go to fight a war, if he was a wife beater or something equally as heinous obviously we'd be saying good for her for leaving. It takes a lot to date someone that's gone all the time. A lot of selflessness and understanding. That's why not many people make it. If all you're concerned about is being left behind with all your friends and family where everything is at your fingertips then it's probably not the relationship for ya. But I'd hope you were self aware enough to know that first, and then respectful and considerate enough to tell them that it's not going to work before you go and cheat on them and they find out some other way. Just what someone thousands of miles away needs to hear. Just to give you a brief history, I was married to an SAS Australian Army man for 18 years, four kids, (left for long periods of time up to and including a year) running a farm, managing ALL affairs, whilst he was off doing his thing... My eldest son is also in the Australian Army, in the Advanced Scouts, re-con...my eldest daughter made Staff Sargent in the Army Cadets, my youngest son just joined the cadets.... We were isolated, no support network, no 'everything laid on'...we did the hard yards too... and what was returned to us, was not the man that left. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, as Debbie pointed out... |
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The fact that your trying to put the blame on me is ridiculous or trying to show people it was ok because she was lonely i was pretty lonely in a country where people hated me. she knew i was a soldier and knew i was going to leave...so dump me tell me to piss off just dont cheat on me. to all those who say i shouldn't of volunteered to go the one time i did volunteer well i really dont care what you think and if it comes up again i'll volunteer again i love this country and will fight for it no matter what. i know theres a woman out there that can see that.
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amen to that
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Edited by
Jess642
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Fri 02/22/08 12:09 AM
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And I am entitled to my opinion, as controversial as it may appear... Tell me, who supports the woman emotionally while hubby is off playing GI Joe? Who holds her? Hugs her when she is down? Who shows her the same respect as this whole crapola mindset that because you are a soldier you are now a god, whilst family can just suck it up for a year, or so, till the returning hero arrives? There are always two sides to the story? Who know if this guy is a violent wife beater, who is so screwed up with PTSD, he doesn't know his arms from his legs? You get an OP that whines about unfaithful women... and everyone immediately tip toes because he is a soldier??? GIMME A BREAK... I don't care if he's a soldier, a trucker, a pilot, or whatever. If you can't handle someone being gone, then don't date them! Yes, we are going off the assumption that all he's done wrong is go to fight a war, if he was a wife beater or something equally as heinous obviously we'd be saying good for her for leaving. It takes a lot to date someone that's gone all the time. A lot of selflessness and understanding. That's why not many people make it. If all you're concerned about is being left behind with all your friends and family where everything is at your fingertips then it's probably not the relationship for ya. But I'd hope you were self aware enough to know that first, and then respectful and considerate enough to tell them that it's not going to work before you go and cheat on them and they find out some other way. Just what someone thousands of miles away needs to hear. Just to give you a brief history, I was married to an SAS Australian Army man for 18 years, four kids, (left for long periods of time up to and including a year) running a farm, managing ALL affairs, whilst he was off doing his thing... My eldest son is also in the Australian Army, in the Advanced Scouts, re-con...my eldest daughter made Staff Sargent in the Army Cadets, my youngest son just joined the cadets.... We were isolated, no support network, no 'everything laid on'...we did the hard yards too... and what was returned to us, was not the man that left. It is a hard life, for the families also, and the partners...I didn't marry the Army, when I married him, I just got it, whether I liked it or not... And yes, I was what seems to be the worst crime in the whole of the universe... I WAS 'faithful'. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, as Debbie pointed out... |
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And I am entitled to my opinion, as controversial as it may appear... Tell me, who supports the woman emotionally while hubby is off playing GI Joe? Who holds her? Hugs her when she is down? Who shows her the same respect as this whole crapola mindset that because you are a soldier you are now a god, whilst family can just suck it up for a year, or so, till the returning hero arrives? There are always two sides to the story? Who know if this guy is a violent wife beater, who is so screwed up with PTSD, he doesn't know his arms from his legs? You get an OP that whines about unfaithful women... and everyone immediately tip toes because he is a soldier??? GIMME A BREAK... I don't care if he's a soldier, a trucker, a pilot, or whatever. If you can't handle someone being gone, then don't date them! Yes, we are going off the assumption that all he's done wrong is go to fight a war, if he was a wife beater or something equally as heinous obviously we'd be saying good for her for leaving. It takes a lot to date someone that's gone all the time. A lot of selflessness and understanding. That's why not many people make it. If all you're concerned about is being left behind with all your friends and family where everything is at your fingertips then it's probably not the relationship for ya. But I'd hope you were self aware enough to know that first, and then respectful and considerate enough to tell them that it's not going to work before you go and cheat on them and they find out some other way. Just what someone thousands of miles away needs to hear. Just to give you a brief history, I was married to an SAS Australian Army man for 18 years, four kids, (left for long periods of time up to and including a year) running a farm, managing ALL affairs, whilst he was off doing his thing... My eldest son is also in the Australian Army, in the Advanced Scouts, re-con...my eldest daughter made Staff Sargent in the Army Cadets, my youngest son just joined the cadets.... We were isolated, no support network, no 'everything laid on'...we did the hard yards too... and what was returned to us, was not the man that left. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, as Debbie pointed out... Well, then see, that's a different scenario then what I think was originally being asked. I can see where what you went through would be extremely difficult. But did you run off and cheat every time he left? It doesn't sound like it. |
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The fact that your trying to put the blame on me is ridiculous or trying to show people it was ok because she was lonely i was pretty lonely in a country where people hated me. she knew i was a soldier and knew i was going to leave...so dump me tell me to piss off just dont cheat on me. to all those who say i shouldn't of volunteered to go the one time i did volunteer well i really dont care what you think and if it comes up again i'll volunteer again i love this country and will fight for it no matter what. i know theres a woman out there that can see that. So was she waiting for you when you got home? Or did she clean out your bank accounts, take all your furniture, and leave you in massive debt? Your OP states you have found out since... so it appears, she was waiting for you when you got home... she just sought solace somewhere else, while you were gone... Did she give you a venereal disease? Did she dump you, whilst away in the middle of a war zone? Or just slept with someone else, while you were away? |
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And I am entitled to my opinion, as controversial as it may appear... Tell me, who supports the woman emotionally while hubby is off playing GI Joe? Who holds her? Hugs her when she is down? Who shows her the same respect as this whole crapola mindset that because you are a soldier you are now a god, whilst family can just suck it up for a year, or so, till the returning hero arrives? There are always two sides to the story? Who know if this guy is a violent wife beater, who is so screwed up with PTSD, he doesn't know his arms from his legs? You get an OP that whines about unfaithful women... and everyone immediately tip toes because he is a soldier??? GIMME A BREAK... I don't care if he's a soldier, a trucker, a pilot, or whatever. If you can't handle someone being gone, then don't date them! Yes, we are going off the assumption that all he's done wrong is go to fight a war, if he was a wife beater or something equally as heinous obviously we'd be saying good for her for leaving. It takes a lot to date someone that's gone all the time. A lot of selflessness and understanding. That's why not many people make it. If all you're concerned about is being left behind with all your friends and family where everything is at your fingertips then it's probably not the relationship for ya. But I'd hope you were self aware enough to know that first, and then respectful and considerate enough to tell them that it's not going to work before you go and cheat on them and they find out some other way. Just what someone thousands of miles away needs to hear. Just to give you a brief history, I was married to an SAS Australian Army man for 18 years, four kids, (left for long periods of time up to and including a year) running a farm, managing ALL affairs, whilst he was off doing his thing... My eldest son is also in the Australian Army, in the Advanced Scouts, re-con...my eldest daughter made Staff Sargent in the Army Cadets, my youngest son just joined the cadets.... We were isolated, no support network, no 'everything laid on'...we did the hard yards too... and what was returned to us, was not the man that left. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, as Debbie pointed out... Well, then see, that's a different scenario then what I think was originally being asked. I can see where what you went through would be extremely difficult. But did you run off and cheat every time he left? It doesn't sound like it. Nope... but ONLY because I chose not to... Did he? See you didn't even ask.... a bit interesting don't you think? |
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Oh so it's ok she cheated because i was gone? Just so you know i wasnt playing GI Joe and don't sit there and act like I was playing a f*ckin game because i wasnt
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I'm sorry that that happened to you. I'm sure it was extremely difficult, but like I said, that's not what this guy was talking about.
I've never dated anyone that was in the military, so I've never experienced it. Therefore, can't speak from so. And I know there are two sides to every story. That's why I was just going off what the original post said. Based on that information alone, and assuming she's not isolated, I still stick to what I said. But given your information.....well, I don't know what to say. I didn't live it. |
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Oh so it's ok she cheated because i was gone? Just so you know i wasnt playing GI Joe and don't sit there and act like I was playing a f*ckin game because i wasnt So was she waiting for you when you got home? Or did she clean out your bank accounts, take all your furniture, and leave you in massive debt? Your OP states you have found out since... so it appears, she was waiting for you when you got home... she just sought solace somewhere else, while you were gone... Did she give you a venereal disease? Did she dump you, whilst away in the middle of a war zone? Or just slept with someone else, while you were away? |
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like i said two sides...and though the guy who posted this is justified in how he feels about how he was treated and i dont condone the womens action...each situation is different and out of the 50 percent he mentioned at the beginning of the post ...not all might have been the same circumstances which is what i think jess is stating i think lol
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no she wasn't waiting for me
she didn't have access to my bank accounts thank god no she didnt give me anything she should have dumped me it would of been a hell of a lot better |
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like i said two sides...and though the guy who posted this is justified in how he feels about how he was treated and i dont condone the womens action...each situation is different and out of the 50 percent he mentioned at the beginning of the post ...not all might have been the same circumstances which is what i think jess is stating i think lol   Your delivery is so much softer than mine... 
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Nope... but ONLY because I chose not to... Did he? See you didn't even ask.... a bit interesting don't you think? No. I didn't ask because we weren't talking about that side. I dont think it's okay for them to cheat either. I think as soon as you do so, there's no point in continuing the relationship, but again, I have no experience in this. I haven't lived it. From your....we'll go with tone, I'm assuming he did. In which case you really got the short end of the stick and I can certainly see why you're so vehement on the topic. But one person's indiscretions doesn't implicate the whole. For that fact, the majorities indiscretions doesn't implicate the whole. And you did pose some interesting ?'s. Overall though, I think it's just a matter of, cheating is cheating, no matter where you are or who you're with and it shouldn't ever be tolerated. |
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your welcome lol
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Army Man... First I have to say Thank you for your service and committment to our great country.You have my respect. My son was on his third deployment... the first 2 in Iraq... this last in Afghanistan.He was severely wounded 3 days ago in the mountains of Afghanistan. Trauma to his chest and both legs recieved while laying ground fire for his fellow squad members. Like you, he was cheated on by his wife during his first deployment. Like you,he felt the betrayal.I have no words of wisdom for you just like I didnt for him... but he had and still has my love and support. I hope you have that also from a loving mother. May god go with you as I will .... Thank you for your service and dedication to our country.
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Army Man... First I have to say Thank you for your service and committment to our great country.You have my respect. My son was on his third deployment... the first 2 in Iraq... this last in Afghanistan.He was severely wounded 3 days ago in the mountains of Afghanistan. Trauma to his chest and both legs recieved while laying ground fire for his fellow squad members. Like you, he was cheated on by his wife during his first deployment. Like you,he felt the betrayal.I have no words of wisdom for you just like I didnt for him... but he had and still has my love and support. I hope you have that also from a loving mother. May god go with you as I will .... Thank you for your service and dedication to our country.
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I know of a guy who came back from the Sandbox to find wife and children gone. Car gone. Bank account gone. Credit cards maxed to the tune of $20,000. The only thing she hadn't done was cheat.
Was it ok to cheat on you....No. But sit back and place yourself in her shoes. As I stated earlier there are troopers who cheat while deployed and it's seen as "they were far from home, scared and lonely". Those left behind are also far from the one they love, scared and lonely. Two sides to everything. |
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like i said two sides...and though the guy who posted this is justified in how he feels about how he was treated and i dont condone the womens action...each situation is different and out of the 50 percent he mentioned at the beginning of the post ...not all might have been the same circumstances which is what i think jess is stating i think lol Your delivery is so much softer than mine... ever thought about being a mediater (sp?) Debbie? 
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