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Topic: There’s Nothing Mainstream About the Corporate Media
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Sun 02/10/08 01:24 PM

Please explain to my little birdbrain how that survey disagrees with Madmans post?
I think he cut and ran again.

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Sun 02/10/08 01:26 PM
bigsmile

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Sun 02/10/08 01:30 PM
Or maybe he ran off to enlist?

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Sun 02/10/08 02:15 PM
Hey Madisonman, no, I am not saying the "main stream media" is doing a good job of informing me, or anybody. I personally believe the MMM is way too liberal. I'm just saying that almost everyone, whether it's Rush Limbaugh or NPR, a newspaper, or whoever, has their own agenda, and they are going to do whatever they can to make you believe their way. And I'm not calling anyone names, or talking "bad" about anyone. Does that make it even more unclearlaugh?
Jim

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Sun 02/10/08 02:26 PM

Hey Madisonman, no, I am not saying the "main stream media" is doing a good job of informing me, or anybody. I personally believe the MMM is way too liberal. I'm just saying that almost everyone, whether it's Rush Limbaugh or NPR, a newspaper, or whoever, has their own agenda, and they are going to do whatever they can to make you believe their way. And I'm not calling anyone names, or talking "bad" about anyone. Does that make it even more unclearlaugh?
Jim
well all I am saying is the mass media is owned for the most part by five large corperations and none of them are "liberal". I would find it laughable that NBC news owned by General electric, one of the biggest defence contractors, will ever run a seriouse program about how the dept of defence wastes tax dollars or how our tax dollars could be better spent

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Sun 02/10/08 03:48 PM
Well, I will respectfully disagree....I think the majority of the news on radio, tv, and the newspapers is definitely slanted toward the liberal side. Now, I also realize that a lot of that may be up to each persons interpretation of what is liberal, and what is conservative. I do know that neither side is perfect, and either side will do whatever it takes to win you to their side....

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Sun 02/10/08 05:18 PM
Hi, everybody! MM, didn't realize you were notorious! Cool!
Anyway, did anybody notice is was a "Sacred Heart University Polling"? Maybe it's the Catholic up-bringing, but I just found that ironic and humorous!
Everybody has their own agenda, media, polititions, people, there is no doubt about that!
Nan

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Tue 02/12/08 06:12 AM

Well, I will respectfully disagree....I think the majority of the news on radio, tv, and the newspapers is definitely slanted toward the liberal side. Now, I also realize that a lot of that may be up to each persons interpretation of what is liberal, and what is conservative. I do know that neither side is perfect, and either side will do whatever it takes to win you to their side....


To get a good view of what Americans are being shown/not shown and just how bias American mas media is (whether you call it conservative or liberal) one only needs to watch foreign news sources. Whether its the BBC, news from Spain or anywhere in the world you will see that there is ALOT missing from the corporate owned media.

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Tue 02/12/08 11:51 AM


Well, I will respectfully disagree....I think the majority of the news on radio, tv, and the newspapers is definitely slanted toward the liberal side. Now, I also realize that a lot of that may be up to each persons interpretation of what is liberal, and what is conservative. I do know that neither side is perfect, and either side will do whatever it takes to win you to their side....


To get a good view of what Americans are being shown/not shown and just how bias American mas media is (whether you call it conservative or liberal) one only needs to watch foreign news sources. Whether its the BBC, news from Spain or anywhere in the world you will see that there is ALOT missing from the corporate owned media.


lol who do you think owns the BBC and other international news stations? Aliens or private/state companies?

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Tue 02/12/08 01:30 PM
You are right there is nothing main stream about the major networks and press they are slanted so far to the left they are crowding moveon.org. The only fair reporting is done by the Fox Network. Fair and Balanced.


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Tue 02/12/08 02:00 PM


NO ONE HAS to listen to (fair and balanced) FOX Hannity, Limbaugh, Boortz, the Great one Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, Mary Matalyn -

There is a little thing called a remote, one can view whatever channel one desires to watch. NO ONE is shoving anything down anyone's throat.noway noway noway noway noway

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Tue 02/12/08 02:14 PM



Is this saying the MSM is conservative? LOL

Today's conservatives are the classical liberals who founded this country.
The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1Bx9Ic


"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias


There goes your argument out the window.



Sorry, did not take anything out any window, right winger site there, can't take their word for gold. Biased opinion, skewed stats, etc.... are notorious on the right winger sites. Try harderbigsmile

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Tue 02/12/08 02:17 PM

by Harvey Wasserman
As we stumble toward another presidential election, it’s never been more clear that our political process is being warped by a corporate stranglehold on the free flow of information. Amidst a virtual blackout of coverage of a horrific war, a global ecological crisis and an advancing economic collapse, what passes for the mass media is itself in collapse. What’s left of our democracy teeters on the brink.

The culprit, in the parlance of the day, has been the “Mainstream Media,” or MSM.

But that’s wrong name for it. Today’s mass media is Corporate, not Mainstream, and the distinction is critical.

Calling the Corporate Media (CM) “mainstream” implies that it speaks for mid-road opinion, and it absolutely does not.

There is, in fact, a discernable, tangible mainstream of opinion in this country. As brilliant analysts such as Jeff Cohen, Norman Solomon and the Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) organization have shown, the “MSM” is very far to the right of it.

The mainstream of American opinion wants this country out of Iraq. The Corporate Media does not. It refuses to give serious coverage to the devastating human, spiritual and economic costs of the war, and it marginalizes those demanding it end.

The mainstream of American opinion wants national health care. The CM does not.

The mainstream of American opinion is deeply distrustful and in many ways hostile to the power of large corporations. Obviously, the CM is not.

The mainstream of American opinion strongly questions whether our elections are being manipulated and stolen. The CM treats with contempt those who dare report on the issue.

The Corporate Media takes partisan stands (often in favor of the Republican Party, but always in defense of corporate interests) by sabotaging political candidacies, especially those of candidates who challenge corporate power. This year it blacklisted the populist candidacy of John Edwards, suffocating his ability to compete for the Democratic nomination.

Mainstream American opinion is no fan of George W. Bush and does not take him seriously as a credible leader. A very substantial percentage has long wanted him and **** Cheney impeached and removed from office. The CM does not tolerate such a discussion, and utterly marginalizes Rep. Dennis Kucinich, the veteran Congressman who has dared to seriously raise the possibility.

Mainstream American opinion is committed to protecting what’s left of the natural environment. The Corporate Media makes an occasional show of sharing that concern, but stops where Corporate interests might be impinged. On the other hand, it promotes failed technologies, such as nuke power, where centralized, corporate profits are huge.

Never in our history has the control of the nation’s sources of information been more centralized, or more at odds with what the country as a whole believes.

This divergence is not limited to the attack pack fringe of far-right bloviators who dominate the Corporate opinion print columns and talk shows. Virtually all “personal” opinion expressed on the corporate airwaves and in the syndicated big newspaper columns is significantly to the pro-corporate right of moderate American opinion.

The “news” pushed by the major radio/TV networks and newspapers slants unerringly toward the interests of the five major corporations that own the bulk of them. They bury stories of vital importance while spewing endless hours and column inches at the mind-deadening likes of Paris Hilton and Brittany Spears.

Their excuse is that they “give the public what it wants” and are “in business to make a profit.”

But the real profit centers of the corporations that own the CM are not in providing news and information. General Electric, Westinghouse, Disney and the other media-financial-industrial behemoths have too much to lose from an accurate reporting of the true news of the world. To protect their core interests, they are bread-and-circus PR/diversion machines, not real news organizations. They resemble the old Soviet official mouthpieces Izvestia and Pravda far more than the news providers envisioned in the First Amendment, by Founders who saw balanced, aggressive reporting as the lifeblood of democracy.Nor does the corporate right never hesitate to attack. Since Vice President Spiro Agnew assaulted those who dared report the truth about the Vietnam War, the absurd myth of a “Liberal Media” has been used to intimidate and silence mainstream opinion.

In fact, the term is used to apply to any outlet that harbors even the slightest expression of dissent. Even conservative newspapers or broadcasts that may be overwhelmingly pro-corporate, but which occasionally tolerate a whiff of dissent, are branded as subversive, ungodly and “out of the mainstream.”

There are indeed liberal publications and radio shows in this country. But it’s no accident that they struggle financially, and for access to the airwaves.

Thankfully, just as the CM solidifies its power over our mass media outlets, the internet has burst forth as an open, wildly diverse medium for mainstream opinion and actual truth. Its preservation will require what Thomas Jefferson called “eternal vigilance.”

That includes restoring the Fairness Doctrine, enacted by a Republican Congress in the 1920s to guarantee balanced opinion on the emerging electronic medium of radio. It means a ban on unified corporate ownership of large fleets of radio, TV and print outlets. It means busting up the monopolies that warp public access to information and opinion.

The word “mainstream” has nothing to do with the massively monopolized machine that has a chokehold on our democracy. It’s the “Corporate Media,” and there’s nothing mainstream about it.

Harvey Wasserman’s History of the United States is at www.solartopia.org. He is senior editor of www.freepress.org.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/10/6968/


This is pretty accurate. I have to watch a variety of different channels including PBS to get a rounded view. I also have to research on the different sites on the internet. I hate having to go into those hate filled, prejudice, right winger sites but I just take a shower to wash off the hate slime. I have to get a full view so I know each point to be accurate in my logistics.

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Tue 02/12/08 02:20 PM

You are right there is nothing main stream about the major networks and press they are slanted so far to the left they are crowding moveon.org. The only fair reporting is done by the Fox Network. Fair and Balanced.




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Tue 02/12/08 02:22 PM



NO ONE HAS to listen to (fair and balanced) FOX Hannity, Limbaugh, Boortz, the Great one Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, Mary Matalyn -

There is a little thing called a remote, one can view whatever channel one desires to watch. NO ONE is shoving anything down anyone's throat.noway noway noway noway noway


noway noway noway huh noway noway noway noway huh

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Tue 02/12/08 02:38 PM
So what is your point madman?

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Tue 02/12/08 03:12 PM




Is this saying the MSM is conservative? LOL

Today's conservatives are the classical liberals who founded this country.
The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1Bx9Ic


"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias


There goes your argument out the window.



Sorry, did not take anything out any window, right winger site there, can't take their word for gold. Biased opinion, skewed stats, etc.... are notorious on the right winger sites. Try harderbigsmile


That's all you got? Prove it wrong rather than spewing propaganda.

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Wed 02/13/08 05:54 AM

You are right there is nothing main stream about the major networks and press they are slanted so far to the left they are crowding moveon.org. The only fair reporting is done by the Fox Network. Fair and Balanced.



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Thu 02/14/08 10:53 AM
It is a good thing that we have the internet, I think the internet backfired on those Media Guys , Yes, I hear that THEY CENSOR the NEWS HERE in AMERIKA!!! Did anyone in the media tell you today that Russia is getting ready for war against us because we insist on putting Nuclear missiles all around their borders (around Russia)To use to attack Russia with?? Our govt does not seem to know the meaning of the word NO!!!noway And our media is not allowed to tell us that!

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Thu 02/14/08 11:03 AM
And the Media will not report that most of the people want all our troops home Yesterday, if not sooner. And that Clinton has very little support in this country.And the media makes it look like she is close. I still wonder about the MC Cain debacle, it seems to me that his own people don't even want him..HOW they trick the people so easy?? It seems like we can not think any more. The Media thinks for us(Tells us what to think) And then :that is what we think??AMAZING isn't it?

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