Topic: There’s Nothing Mainstream About the Corporate Media
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Sun 02/10/08 11:57 AM

I agree with Mr Wasserman, about these Corporate NON NEWS Organizations. They definitely are not telling the truth about the wars, almost pretend that there is no war. I figure it is a big waste of time watching them.

I recommend the Contact magazine ,comes out once a month or so at 3 dollars per copy,1-800-800-5565 Best News Source I know of.


While you might be able to make a claim that the war is under reported or is portrayed in an excessively positive light, I think that the claim that it is being largely ignored is particularly weak. I often see news about more casualties, both Iraqi and American. Again from today's New York Times, there is an article related to the war.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Iraq-Soldier-Trial.html?ex=1360386000&en=421654dd2b6939a1&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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Sun 02/10/08 11:58 AM



I apologize. I was unaware of the past context and I have seen similar statements used far too many times as a justification for attacking dissent. Again, I apologize for extending that unjustly to your comment.


No problem. I saw you had not posted much, wasn't sure how much you have seen here. Madman has a virtual lynching party out after him, it gets comical at times. I bite my tounge a lot, I don't wish to be hateful myself. I lurk a lot.
well as a legal secretary I have to point out your spelling is just awful and your typing gives me hives:wink:


I am aware of those shortcomings. So kind of you to point them out. My daughter is an editor for a major newspaper. I flipped burgers to help get her there. I hope to continue my education as I can afford to.

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Sun 02/10/08 11:59 AM
Madisonman, do you believe like this nuts author does, that the GOVERNMENT should mandate what the public sector allows on the tv and airwaves? Do you think they should give equal time to all sides (though you only truly want the left)? The government should mandate it?

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Sun 02/10/08 12:00 PM
Why is New York Times sales down in the dumpster? Because the public is sick of their LIBERALLY biased reporting.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:02 PM
No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded

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Sun 02/10/08 12:03 PM
Edited by coldestfire on Sun 02/10/08 12:04 PM
Starsailor, THAT is a bold claim, considering all the pressures currently on news organizations.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:06 PM

No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded


lol the head of GM has is a big liberal and has allowed NBC and MSNBC to go far left. Ted Turner isn't liberal either? Come on, where have you been?

"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias

I guess that's all a lie, I suppose the FEMA camps told all the people to think that right?

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Sun 02/10/08 12:07 PM
Sure I do, when the government makes some outragouse claim like "mission accomplished" someone else should be able to stand up and say......Umm you better check again......Now if we had that in our country maybe we wouldnt be in such a mess right now.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:08 PM

No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded


yeah what he said
:smile:

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Sun 02/10/08 12:09 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sun 02/10/08 12:10 PM
"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias


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Sun 02/10/08 12:10 PM


No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded


lol the head of GM has is a big liberal and has allowed NBC and MSNBC to go far left. Ted Turner isn't liberal either? Come on, where have you been?

"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias

I guess that's all a lie, I suppose the FEMA camps told all the people to think that right?

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Sun 02/10/08 12:11 PM
again sailor boy I say its due to the mass brainwashing of the public by repeating the same thing over and over....The liberal media, the libral media.untill people actualy believe it without thinking. but I dont know how accurate your info is. did they interview people exiting a Rush Lymbaugh fan club? or was it a random sampling? you see your quick jump to claiming victory doesnt stand up in the world of adults.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:12 PM

again sailor boy I say its due to the mass brainwashing of the public by repeating the same thing over and over....The liberal media, the libral media.untill people actualy believe it without thinking. but I dont know how accurate your info is. did they interview people exiting a Rush Lymbaugh fan club? or was it a random sampling? you see your quick jump to claiming victory doesnt stand up in the world of adults.


Brainwashing in the FEMA prison camps, right?

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Sun 02/10/08 12:15 PM



No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded


lol the head of GM has is a big liberal and has allowed NBC and MSNBC to go far left. Ted Turner isn't liberal either? Come on, where have you been?

"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias

I guess that's all a lie, I suppose the FEMA camps told all the people to think that right?


This does not dispute what Madman said, this survey refers to the public conception of the media being liberal. Seems to me this supports Madmans view.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:16 PM




No starsailor it only showes how effective the propoganda is in that regard. they keep repeating the same mantra over and over, the liberal media, the liberal media.......well Who owns the media? Dizney. General Electric,rupert Murdoch, harldy a liberal in the bunch.....I think to claim the media is liberal is insane and deluded


lol the head of GM has is a big liberal and has allowed NBC and MSNBC to go far left. Ted Turner isn't liberal either? Come on, where have you been?

"For the sixth time in a year, a national survey has found many more Americans see a media bias to the left than to the right, and the latest poll released earlier this month by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute, discovered “significantly declining percentages of Americans saying they believe all or most of media news reporting,” with MSNBC (at a piddling four percent) and PBS (three percent) the least trusted for accurate reporting. Fox News, at 27 percent, was the most trusted, way ahead of second-best CNN at 14.6 percent. The Fairfield, Connecticut university's January 8 press release reported: “Just 19.6 percent of those surveyed could say they believe all or most news media reporting. This is down from 27.4 percent in 2003.”

By a three-to-one margin “Americans see news media journalists and broadcasters (45.4 percent to 15.7 percent) as mostly or somewhat liberal over mostly or somewhat conservative,” but for NPR and the New York Times recognition of a liberal tilt is closer to four-to-one." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/01/22/fnc-highlights-latest-poll-showing-public-recognizes-liberal-bias

I guess that's all a lie, I suppose the FEMA camps told all the people to think that right?


This does not dispute what Madman said, this survey refers to the public conception of the media being liberal. Seems to me this supports Madmans view.


Because you skewed the results in your own mind.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:21 PM
Edited by coldestfire on Sun 02/10/08 12:22 PM
I'm not saying that the survey is wrong, but I was wondering if there are any independent surveys that verify the results of this one. ANY single survey is inherently suspect and I would claim this one is especially so because it was conducted by a Catholic organization, which tend to lean toward conservative viewpoints. As we all know, it is easy to skew a survey one way or the other based on many factors, including how the questions are asked. This is the reason that several independent surveys are necessary to accept a conclusion as fact.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:23 PM

Heh, I know by comparison this post makes me seem real conservative, but really my only other interaction with these boards was to correct someone who was attacking Obama for being Muslim (he is NOT). I have some strong opinions, but what I care about very strongly is balanced debate.


actually I don't see you leaning either way you seem pretty well balanced to me

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Sun 02/10/08 12:26 PM
"Because you skewed the results in your own mind."

noway

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Sun 02/10/08 12:26 PM
"Because you skewed the results in your own mind."

noway

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Sun 02/10/08 12:31 PM
Please explain to my little birdbrain how that survey disagrees with Madmans post?