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Topic: SCIENTOLOGY
yzrabbit1's photo
Tue 02/12/08 09:32 AM

Scientology, huh?

I only know what Southpark told me. I don't know about you guys, but that isn't the most reliable source of information.

Any way you look at it they are a bunch of weirdos.



devil


Actually the part about the church beliefs in aliens is spot on. That part is so ridiculously funny that they didn't need to make it up. Just animate it and you laugh yourself to tears. It would be that funny if it wasn't hurting so many people.

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 09:34 AM


Careful Jim, that could be detrimental to your ways:wink:


Don't worry. I think I can handle it.

Does anyone know who started Scientology or where it came from?

If it was mentioned earlier I must have missed it... I'll look again, just in case.


Someone named L. Ron Hubbard

Big_Jim's photo
Tue 02/12/08 09:36 AM


Someone named L. Ron Hubbard


Thanks, Suz.

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 09:38 AM
Edited by Suzanne20 on Tue 02/12/08 09:39 AM
Anytime, I don't know much about it except what Mirror has told me. I really have no desire to look it up any further. By the way, you knew I was joking right? About saying Jesus being detrimental?

no photo
Tue 02/12/08 09:38 AM


Scientology, huh?

I only know what Southpark told me. I don't know about you guys, but that isn't the most reliable source of information.

Any way you look at it they are a bunch of weirdos.



devil


Actually the part about the church beliefs in aliens is spot on. That part is so ridiculously funny that they didn't need to make it up. Just animate it and you laugh yourself to tears. It would be that funny if it wasn't hurting so many people.



Don't forget the clams! You see, Thetans evolved from clams. According to LRH, you can make a person very nervous or even make them faint by imitating a clam gasping for air with your hand.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:44 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 02/12/08 10:45 AM



Scientology, huh?

I only know what Southpark told me. I don't know about you guys, but that isn't the most reliable source of information.

Any way you look at it they are a bunch of weirdos.



devil
laugh Dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or something weird like that??laugh

Actually the part about the church beliefs in aliens is spot on. That part is so ridiculously funny that they didn't need to make it up. Just animate it and you laugh yourself to tears. It would be that funny if it wasn't hurting so many people.



Don't forget the clams! You see, Thetans evolved from clams. According to LRH, you can make a person very nervous or even make them faint by imitating a clam gasping for air with your hand.
laugh dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or somethinglaugh

Suzanne20's photo
Tue 02/12/08 10:46 AM
Edited by Suzanne20 on Tue 02/12/08 11:09 AM




Scientology, huh?

I only know what Southpark told me. I don't know about you guys, but that isn't the most reliable source of information.

Any way you look at it they are a bunch of weirdos.



devil
laugh Dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or something weird like that??laugh

Actually the part about the church beliefs in aliens is spot on. That part is so ridiculously funny that they didn't need to make it up. Just animate it and you laugh yourself to tears. It would be that funny if it wasn't hurting so many people.



Don't forget the clams! You see, Thetans evolved from clams. According to LRH, you can make a person very nervous or even make them faint by imitating a clam gasping for air with your hand.
laugh dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or somethinglaugh


God created Adam from the dust of the earth, Eve from one of Adam's ribs. Today we come from the mothers womb.

no photo
Tue 02/12/08 11:08 AM

laugh dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or somethinglaugh


We don't believe that we are possessed by the ghosts of the decendants of clams. We also don't believe that if you make a hand gesture you can make someone pass out.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 02/12/08 02:33 PM


laugh dont christians believe people are made out of dirt or mud or somethinglaugh


We don't believe that we are possessed by the ghosts of the decendants of clams. We also don't believe that if you make a hand gesture you can make someone pass out.
drinker I DONT EITHERdrinker

Teresita1959's photo
Tue 02/12/08 04:52 PM
all wrongs do not make a right.

anoasis's photo
Tue 02/12/08 05:55 PM
Descended from clams?

Like Venus on the half-shell?

All religions just borrow from other religions don't they...

Peace. flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 02/13/08 11:21 AM
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yzrabbit1's photo
Wed 02/13/08 11:38 AM

From the web..

Deaths in Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel

Flag is the abbreviation of Flag Land Base, Scientology's presence in Clearwater. The first building they bought was the 272-room Fort Harrison hotel.

Lisa McPherson (36)
Room 174?
On December 5, 1995, Lisa McPherson died. Scientology had held her against her will for 17 days. During that time, she tried to leave, became violent, and refused to eat. At the time of her death, she had bruises and abrasions on her body, and she had lost over 30 pounds in just 17 days.

Heribert Pfaff (31)
Room 758
According to the records, Heribert P. died august 28, 1988, during the night from a heavy epileptic attack. He hit his head on the night table. The scientology doctor reports that he prescribed vitamins for his patient -dispite regular attacks- in stead of treating him with proper medication. Such medication was indeed not detected in his blood during the post-mortem examination.

Josephus Havenith (45)
Room 771

An autopsy report lists his death as "probable drowning" but notes that his head was not under water. He died in February 1980 at the Scientology Fort Harrison Hotel in a bathtub filled with water so hot it had burned his skin off.

Unknown
Boilerroom
1989, dead in the basement, next to the heating boilers. Carbon-monoxide poisoning . Ex-scientologists have alleged in affidavits and a declaration that the boiler room was used for Scientology's Rehabilitation Project Force (gulag).



http://www.whyaretheydead.net/

Lily0923's photo
Wed 02/13/08 05:09 PM
Rabbit, did you ever take a speech and debate class in high school...or Goddess forbid college???

yzrabbit1's photo
Wed 02/13/08 05:25 PM
A mothers tragic loss of her son while he visited his Scientology father.

Kyle's obituary


It is important for me, Victoria Britton - the mother of Kyle Thomas Brennan - to let all of the caring and concerned people know the truth regarding his life and death. Kyle was baptized into the Catholic faith at three months old and was eternally laid to rest as a Catholic on February 22, 2007.

The statement that my son died for Tom Cruise's Scientology beliefs is completely false. Kyle never practiced, adhered to, or believed in the doctrine of Scientology. He was sent literature from the cult by his father, an avid member of the so-called church located in Clearwater, Florida. I am refraining from using the many negative adjectives that Kyle used to describe their beliefs after reading the literature sent him, but absurd and ludicrous were two of his favorites.

I am uncertain as to what unfortunate events led to the tragic death of my dear son, who at the time was staying with his Scientologist father. I can say that his depression medication was not found on his person when the police searched the crime scene. I was also informed that when Kyle's father found him he waited forty-five minutes before calling for medical assistance. He called a fellow Scientologist first, and then waited for him to arrive on the scene before calling an ambulance or the police. The thought of this inhuman behavior will haunt me for the rest of my life.

There are no words to describe how a mother feels when she has lost a child. In many ways, I am able to cope by pretending he is still with us. Whenever I see a group of college-age young men, I look for my son's face among them hoping to find him. He looks back at me with his beautiful blue eyes. He's smiling . . . and he's wearing his favorite blue shirt.

Peace Be With You

Victoria

http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/kyle_brennan/



MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:23 AM
Summary of Scientology Theology. In the beginning were the Thetans. These were to eventually create the MEST, which in actuality would not be the best thing they could have done. For when the Thetan, who inhabits the MEST, comes into conflict with other MEST, an engram is recorded in the reactive mind. This engram, whether it be remembered or not, due to unconsciousness which accompanies every engram, is stored in the reactive mind and causes the Thetan to believe false data [erroneous ideas]. It is the purpose of Scientology, through its auditing efforts, to rid the Thetan of all engrams so that in turn that Thetan, who now possesses a new educational perspective on reality, as a result of the auditing, may advance to a higher state of being or Clear. Once one reaches "Clear" (a 38-step process), there are 20 more steps before one reaches "OT," when one supposedly doesn't need a body to exist and is clear of all "engrams."

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:24 AM
In a nutshell, Scientology teaches that all humans descended from a race of uncreated, omnipotent gods called Thetans, who gave up their powers to enter the Material-Energy-Space-Time (MEST) world of Earth. [Hubbard's Dianetics and Scientology: Technical Dictionary explains, "The Thetan is immortal and is possessed of capabilities well in excess of those hitherto predicted for man. In the final analysis what is this thing called Thetan? It is simply you before you mocked yourself up and that is the handiest definition I know of" (p. 432). The Thetan is thus that part of each individual which is immortal and which has become contaminated or debased by the influences of MEST.] Gradually, they evolved upward by reincarnation to become humans who could not remember their deified state. Scientologists are encouraged to awaken their dormant Thetan potential by removing all mental blocks called engrams. By doing so, they can realize their true personhood, achieving total power and control over MEST. Scientology offers a psychotherapeutic process for breaking through the engrams "picked up from traumas in prior lives," to "realize" once again one's true identity as an "operating Thetan" (God) beyond the limitations of MEST

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:25 AM
Thus, Man in his true nature is an immortal Thetan. However, the Thetan is responsible for the creation of MEST. Though the Thetan created the MEST, sometimes the MEST collides with the Thetan resulting in the acquisition of an engram. Because every engram is accompanied by unconsciousness to a greater or lesser degree, not all engrams are known to exist by the Thetan's analytical mind. As a result of the build-up of thousands of known and unknown engrams, stored in his reactive mind, man seems to experience problems throughout his life. These engrams have accumulated not only in this life but in many past lives as well through reincarnation. Thus, it is Scientology's purpose to rid the Thetan of these unwanted engrams. How is this accomplished? By becoming Clear.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/16/08 01:27 AM
Other doctrines and practices of Scientology include astral travel, regression to past lives, and the "urge toward existence as spirits." Through the use of a Scientology "E-meter" (something like a lie detector) in an "auditing" session, members undergo exercises and counseling to eliminate negative mental images from past lives and achieve a state of "clear."

Belushi's photo
Fri 05/16/08 03:38 AM
Edited by Belushi on Fri 05/16/08 03:40 AM
I think you will find that Christianity was seen as a cult religion at some point in the past.

Islam was only a way of life that one man adopted, that others followed.

But I dont see religion as the answer to anything. But thats a different debate entirely.

Scientology is a system of belief that one person decides to follow. The fact that some of the highest profile actors decide to follow this system doesnt make it any more or less acceptable.

If people want to follow their own system of belief blindly and without question, then good for them. Just expect cynicism and ridicule from me if you try to get me to embrace it.


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