Topic: Hillary for President Yah or Nah? | |
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Edited by
lonelyshorty
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Wed 01/23/08 04:22 PM
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i cannot support someone whos for abortion, whos going to take the military out of Iraq and ruin all the progress, and getting rid of the military is the STUPIDEST IDEA OF ALL TIME
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Queen Hillary..? Um...nah, she needs to go back to the pits of hell where she came from, because shes not even human
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Not much support for Hillary if you read this thread. Me neither!!!
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Another concern of mine
is that she gets emotional. Like when she broke down and almost cried in New Hampshire. She puts forth a steely exterior most of the time that appears she's in control, but I think she's marshmallow underneath. What will happen if she's faced with a real life-or-death situation if she becomes President? Will she cry to Bill and let him make the decisions for her? |
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How can someone run the country when their own household has a reputation for being in disorder. The whole concept of being a leader on family issues and leading the country without having working values in your own back yard is contradictory.
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'Let those who
are without sin cast the first stone...' I have nothing against Hillary personally. I'm sure she's a wonderful mother, cares about her family and the country as well. I just don't think she'd make a good President. |
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why not... surely she couldn't be any worse than the one we have right now
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Damn, I just spit coffee all over my screen. Stop trying to scare me ok?
That's a resounding NO, in case you were wondering =) |
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I agree that she probably
couldn't do more damage to the country than Shrub. |
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If she wins the nomination, I will vote for her. btw, what happened to the angry girl? Wanted to tell her that God should always be capitalized. Would have thought she would have known that...
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Ah, yes. missblndie
I agreed with a lot of the points she made. There is a morality problem in this country. I think it is something that can't be legislated or put in the Constitution, it has to be handled in the family and community. The most serious problem I see is fatherless children. Meaning, there are a lot of men who father children who don't take responsibility for them. Without discipline, the child grows up angry, and turns to crime. |
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Ah, yes. missblndie I agreed with a lot of the points she made. There is a morality problem in this country. I think it is something that can't be legislated or put in the Constitution, it has to be handled in the family and community. The most serious problem I see is fatherless children. Meaning, there are a lot of men who father children who don't take responsibility for them. Without discipline, the child grows up angry, and turns to crime. Hmmm, I didn't agree with anything she said at all, but maybe it was the tone that distracted from the points. Sure, there is a morality problem, but you are right in that isn't the governments problem to correct. It is a problem that needs to be addressed within the family, and community if need be. Political figures should be focused on running the government, not ensuring that a family shares their moral or religious views. I, personally, would never vote for anyone that thought otherwise. As for fatherless children, I have raised my children on my on, and they are happy, healthy and productive individuals. I think that single parent homes can be just as nurturing, most certainly more so than dysfunctional two parent homes, and can definitely provide a positive influence on children. I think that guidance, structure, and open communication, not necessarily discipline, is the key to instilling a sense of morality in kids. I do agree though that many men, women too, don't take responsibility for their kids, but as you said, it's not an issue to be legislated. |
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I suppose it depends
on the situation, but would you agree that there are societal problems caused by fathers not being there for their children, that this can lead to anger issues, which in turn can lead to more serious problems? |
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I'm talking about
the father being involved in the child's life, whether he's physically in the home or not. |
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I suppose it depends on the situation, but would you agree that there are societal problems caused by fathers not being there for their children, that this can lead to anger issues, which in turn can lead to more serious problems? Yes, I agree with that. I also know of plenty of good fathers who have always been there for their children, but yet the kids get into trouble later anyway. Peer pressure is a big factor in that. But yes, basically I agree. |
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Another concern of mine is that she gets emotional. Like when she broke down and almost cried in New Hampshire. She puts forth a steely exterior most of the time that appears she's in control, but I think she's marshmallow underneath. What will happen if she's faced with a real life-or-death situation if she becomes President? Will she cry to Bill and let him make the decisions for her? Are you serious? you think that was real? She didn't shed a tear when the WTC was attacked.. but you think she's really crying because campaigning is so very hard? Poor Hillary.. living on the road and eating pizza every day (yeah right.. ) I wonder what would happen if any of the other candidates broke down because it's so hard. Let's see Obama cry and see what happens.. |
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It wouldn't work
for Obama because men aren't allowed to cry in public. But, yeah, I think they were probably crocodile tears Hillary was shedding. |
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She is smarter and has a better command of the issues than any Republican in the race! She also has first hand experience in the exec branch.
Sure, she is a pragmatist and won't win the profiles in courage award, but that's what's required to get things done in this country. Idealist, historically don't fare very well. While she may not be the most dynamic canidate, she is probably the best prepared. As far as the sexist crying thing, she didn't even cry. She got a little choked up. I think Bush was crying when he was reading My Pet Goat while we were under attack. All President's have cried in recent years. Bush scored major points with his tears. But what a double standard when it's a woman. I think she's proven her toughness. She's been accused of everything from being a multi murder to a lesbian and she still keeps fighting the good fight. Most other politicians could never stand up to the kind of scrutiny and venoumous attacks she has. And all the people on this thread can say is they don't like her. There is no supporting reasons to anything I've read on this thread. People just buy the dope the righ wing echo machine puts on her. Like Hillary care and all this other BS. None of the has any basis in reality. I like Obama, but I'm not sure he will be able to stand up to all the racist crap the repubs will be bringing his way. I think it's funny how all the Repugs are singing his praises. I think they want him to win because they can play there same wedge politics and divide through racial polarazation. I'm still not sure. I may change to Obama, because I don't think Senator Clinton will be able to get a fair shake in the media. The media has ADD and they are tired of the whole Clinto story. They want to move on, and it shows. It showed in NH when they all but said whe was dead. The truth is, she still has a higher probability of winning. The establishment canidate always does. I just hope some people who have negative perceptions of Clinton will aks themselves, is it really worse than continuting the policies of Bush? Mccain is Bush on steroids as far as Iraq goes. |
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na they need to stop electing these rich idiots,where all the probs come from
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Edited by
leahmarie
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Sun 01/27/08 03:58 AM
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Brandon....
If Hillary is a yah, I will scream I will also get so angry my face will turn red I will also get so upset I will turn blue I will also get so sad I will cry I will also get bug eyed and say no way I can only be bored to think of Hillary as president I will also turn green, because I will be so sick Let's hope those who vote "Nah" will prevail! |
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