And again in that statement symbelmyne lies the truth.

"But it's all wrong.....Because you can't speak about something you know nothing of."

Ummm, feral, is this not precisely what you do to Abra.

I beg your pardon young lady but I most certainly do have faith. You just don’t understand it. That doesn’t mean that I have no faith.



If it’s been proven to you then you no longer have faith. You have divine knowledge.

Either that or your committing the sin of blasphemy.

I’m not about to guess which might be true.



Again, you are jumping to untrue conclusions. I do have faith, and I’m fully aware that it’s irrational.

I wish I could rationalize it, then I’d have divine knowledge like you do.



Again you disrespect the truth here. Just because I don’t believe what you believe doesn’t mean that I have no faith. I simply have faith in something a little different that you do. That’s all.



Sorry you lost me on this one. I don’t understand the connection between faith and voting. I didn’t realize that faith is a democratic system.



Again, you’re claiming that I know nothing of faith, but you are totally wrong about that and have no right to jump to this unwarranted conclusion about me.



If you truly believe this, then why are you always posting LOGICAL ARGUMENTS to support your faith concerning creation versus evolution????



I beg to differ with you. Even atheists can have faith. They have faith in a world without a God.

But I genuinely don’t expect you to understand such a lofty notion.

You are clearly showing that, from your point of view, anything that differs from your faith is no faith at all.

That’s clearly your attitude, and this is was people like Funches, Myself, Creative, Voileazur, Redykeulous and many others are trying to get you to see.

We aren’t trying to change your faith!

We are simply trying to help you to realize the truth that your faith is not our faith nor does your faith need to be our faith.

Until you can realize THAT we can never get along with you because you will be forever attempting to convert us to your faith!

We have no desire to convert you to our faiths.

See the difference?

OMG! Signs of true intelligence!

Bless you dear. The world could surely use more people like you!

no wench it isn't......and this is why. If one is going to speak of faith and yet doesn't have it...how therefore can you speak of it. If abra, voil, funches, and yourself, don't believe in the same things as us, but don't even have a clue how we came to have our belifs, how can you say that what we believe is delusional, wrong, or for that matter say anything at all.

I have always made it very clear that every human being has a right to his beliefs. What I won't tolerate is writings like this.

He’s trying to get people to realize that a belief in God is GREAT! But if you’re going to believe in a God at least do it for the RIGHT REASONS!

And,... REALIZE the difference between true ‘faith’ and DELUSION!

Faith cannot be proven.
Faith is irrational.
Faith is a personal thing
Faith should never be viewed as some sort of absolute truth.
Faith cannot be argued on the basis of logic.

Because for me this again is someone speaking of something they know nothing of.......God has proven to me that my Faith is......is not irrational, yes is very personal, and is absolute truth.

So when someone comes and spews this to me....when they know not what they speak....then yes I have a problem with it. If they put down their beliefs, thats way ok.....but don't dare tell me what to believe, and don't say what I know to be truth is irrational.

from your mouth to gods ear, as my yiddish grandmother would say...no,...really, thank you, thank you very much...

read the following

Grand Unified Theorem: Discovery of the Theory of Everything and the Fundamental Building Block of Quantum Theory by Gabriel A. Oyibo
$75.00 Used & New from: $69.95


as it is one step above Estien 's theory, Darwinism, Plank theory, theory of everything from nothing. etc. Dr Oyibo states he received this knowledge from yoruba Edlers of africa. elders who practice IFa and whose ODU via divination is practiced. checkout IFA FA in web. and traditional IFA. Tony's smith page

isn't that what you are doing "feralcatlady" ..you speak of truth but provide proof of nothing but say it's a feeling in your heart or soul ...heck in that case can you give me the winning numbers to the lottery

Feral, Deep breath, come on, join me here, in through the nose, breathe in, hold it for 'bout three seconds, exhale through the mouth, big puff of air pooooof!!!!

A-b-r-a presents a diff-er-ent faith than your's. Red presents another. Creative and Art another, Miles will come in with a-whole-nother spin on another faith. And me, well, as you well know, wherever the feeling moves me, I will zip, Zing, and swooosh to picking up what I can use and discarding what I personally cannot.

Are any of us harming you or your faith by NOT embracing your faith? Yes, I know YOU may well truly believe we are harming ourselves, as is OUR CHOICE to do so. Feral, how would you feel if the days of religious hiding were here and now and YOUR BELIEF was on the hushed up end. Would you feel it any less because it could get you killed to shout it from the Mountain or would it not give you a quiet sense of strength to endure during times of social ignorance, hatred, and bigotry? Just a thought.......

Be well feral, I will try not to post my laughter in the future.

Funches,

What do you believe happens when you die? Do you have any proof of what you believe? Until you die, it's all faith.

I have the proof from the Lord my God.....and that is all I need. I have nothing to prove to anyone......My proof is in my life...My proof is through the Lord My God and His words to me....My proof is in the miracles of my life, Everything else is a need to know basis....and you can bet that when I need to know....He will show me. Now some can say....."Oh Debbie what makes you think your so special." that God talks to you.....He talks to everyone.....but some just choose not to listen....again their choice..

"to believe is to doubt".....funches 3:16

it's obvious you been asleep in de-programming 101 class again Spidercmb

Sometimes when people claim the lord speaks to them they end up heavily sedated...or president of a powerful country with lots of bombs..

Dont meant to sound trite feralcatlady...clearly you live on faith...and if it works for you, then more power to you, if you pray say a little one for me..I need all the help I can get.

So you have no beliefs? Really? If you believe that Christianity is false, therefore you have a belief. Therefore you must doubt and think that Christianity might be correct. Welcome my Christian brother!

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so you are recommending spending $75.00 for a book of theories ..heck..you may as well give that $75.00 to the church in tithes

Well if that's true, I can only say that it doesn't show in your forum posts on creationism versus evolution.

You seem to be very adamant about having needing to prove your “faith-based” case.



And so sad too! Bush had actually stated at one time that God TOLD HIM to invade Iraq!

Either God is a war monger, or George Jr. mistook his mortal father as God.

sorry Spidercmb but it's apparent you have problems interpeting concepts so I will explain this one to you rationally..."to believe is to doubt" simply means don't go around claiming beliefs as being anything more than what they are...beliefs

Sorry Funches, but it is appear you are having problems understanding your own concepts. "to believe is to doubt" applies to you too. If you believe that Christianity is false, then you must doubt that belief, meaning you suspect that Christianity is true.