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I think its a sin and yes I am a christian...If you havent done it, dont..It becomes a bad habit and then it leads to other things in the long run...not that I no from experience lol but if your pure please stay that way..why burden yourself, if you didnt think it was wrong you wouldnt have to question...
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Well I just do not think a person can lay down and masterbate to the glory of the Lord. Now there's a mental image for you....Puts a whole new spin on "Holy Roller". 
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OOOOk this is really embarrassing so don't make fun of me. So, we all know, sex before marriage is sin, but, what about masterbation? I can't find anything in the Bible that says you can't touch yourself. Is masterbation a sin? If it's not, then what about thinking about someone else while you do it? Is that a sin? I'm serious, so no joking. Two things. 1) Lust is a sin. If you can masturbate without feeling lust, then go to point 2. 2) Romans 14:23 "But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because this is not from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." If you have questions in your heart if something is a sin or not, then it is a sin. If you think "Maybe God will get mad if I do this" and do it anyways, then that tells God that there are things of this world that are more important to you than God. It doesn't matter if it's something that isn't a sin, if you do something and believe you might be sinning, then you are. This one actually helps a ton. That makes sense. |
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OOOOk this is really embarrassing so don't make fun of me. So, we all know, sex before marriage is sin, but, what about masterbation? I can't find anything in the Bible that says you can't touch yourself. Is masterbation a sin? If it's not, then what about thinking about someone else while you do it? Is that a sin? I'm serious, so no joking. Two things. 1) Lust is a sin. If you can masturbate without feeling lust, then go to point 2. 2) Romans 14:23 "But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because this is not from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." If you have questions in your heart if something is a sin or not, then it is a sin. If you think "Maybe God will get mad if I do this" and do it anyways, then that tells God that there are things of this world that are more important to you than God. It doesn't matter if it's something that isn't a sin, if you do something and believe you might be sinning, then you are. I found this to be enlightening (bibletruths.net): ...the twisting of Paul's teaching in Romans 14 to be inclusive of doctrinal and moral deviations is not simply error or an error, it is error that allows all error and forbids any and all challenge. Once the floodgate is allowed to be opened, we have no right attempting to pick and choose which false doctrines we will allow or reject, such is the height of hypocrisy (many are guilty of this). The key is to keep the floodgates tightly and securely closed! Logic from a Christian that actually makes sense to me and I'm not even religious, much less a Christian. 
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OOOOk this is really embarrassing so don't make fun of me. So, we all know, sex before marriage is sin, but, what about masterbation? I can't find anything in the Bible that says you can't touch yourself. Is masterbation a sin? If it's not, then what about thinking about someone else while you do it? Is that a sin? I'm serious, so no joking. Two things. 1) Lust is a sin. If you can masturbate without feeling lust, then go to point 2. 2) Romans 14:23 "But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because this is not from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." If you have questions in your heart if something is a sin or not, then it is a sin. If you think "Maybe God will get mad if I do this" and do it anyways, then that tells God that there are things of this world that are more important to you than God. It doesn't matter if it's something that isn't a sin, if you do something and believe you might be sinning, then you are. I found this to be enlightening (bibletruths.net): ...the twisting of Paul's teaching in Romans 14 to be inclusive of doctrinal and moral deviations is not simply error or an error, it is error that allows all error and forbids any and all challenge. Once the floodgate is allowed to be opened, we have no right attempting to pick and choose which false doctrines we will allow or reject, such is the height of hypocrisy (many are guilty of this). The key is to keep the floodgates tightly and securely closed! Logic from a Christian that actually makes sense to me and I'm not even religious, much less a Christian. What he's talking about is further up in Romans 14. Christians are taught to not fight over doctrine. The authors point is that someone who is doing false teachings isn't covered by Romans 14. If someone teaches that Jesus wasn't God, a Christian is called upon to challenge that teaching. I agree with that author completely, but it has nothing to do with anything else that has been posted in this thread. Perhaps another example of you feeling the need to get in shots even when they do nothing to further the conversation...just so long as you can feel like you "won". |
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OOOOk this is really embarrassing so don't make fun of me. So, we all know, sex before marriage is sin, but, what about masterbation? I can't find anything in the Bible that says you can't touch yourself. Is masterbation a sin? If it's not, then what about thinking about someone else while you do it? Is that a sin? I'm serious, so no joking. Two things. 1) Lust is a sin. If you can masturbate without feeling lust, then go to point 2. 2) Romans 14:23 "But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because this is not from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." If you have questions in your heart if something is a sin or not, then it is a sin. If you think "Maybe God will get mad if I do this" and do it anyways, then that tells God that there are things of this world that are more important to you than God. It doesn't matter if it's something that isn't a sin, if you do something and believe you might be sinning, then you are. I found this to be enlightening (bibletruths.net): ...the twisting of Paul's teaching in Romans 14 to be inclusive of doctrinal and moral deviations is not simply error or an error, it is error that allows all error and forbids any and all challenge. Once the floodgate is allowed to be opened, we have no right attempting to pick and choose which false doctrines we will allow or reject, such is the height of hypocrisy (many are guilty of this). The key is to keep the floodgates tightly and securely closed! Logic from a Christian that actually makes sense to me and I'm not even religious, much less a Christian. What he's talking about is further up in Romans 14. Christians are taught to not fight over doctrine. The authors point is that someone who is doing false teachings isn't covered by Romans 14. If someone teaches that Jesus wasn't God, a Christian is called upon to challenge that teaching. I agree with that author completely, but it has nothing to do with anything else that has been posted in this thread. Perhaps another example of you feeling the need to get in shots even when they do nothing to further the conversation...just so long as you can feel like you "won". Not true; I merely wanted to point out that the scripture which you quoted to support your advice was not the best choice, as the summary of the article specifically draws attention to Romans 14:22-23, and emphasizes that it should not apply to doctrinal or moral deviations (apropos of the OP). Your very use of the quote constituted "false teaching", which I promptly brought to your attention. I was not always non-religious, you know. Quite the devotee actually. You seem to judge people swiftly as well as harshly. Not a winning combination. I hope you find enlightenment, and peace. Good night. |
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Not true; I merely wanted to point out that the scripture which you quoted to support your advice was not the best choice, as the summary of the article specifically draws attention to Romans 14:22-23, and emphasizes that it should not apply to doctrinal or moral deviations (apropos of the OP). Your very use of the quote constituted "false teaching", which I promptly brought to your attention. I was not always non-religious, you know. Quite the devotee actually. You seem to judge people swiftly as well as harshly. Not a winning combination. I hope you find enlightenment, and peace. Good night. You would be hard pressed to find a pastor who disagreed with what I said. Believe what you want, but if you think my statement was wrong, you are wrong. God wants to be first in our lives, if you are willing to risk sinning, then you are sinning. God judges the heart, he doesn't stare at a checklist of sins, that's legalism and Jesus spent his whole ministry teaching against that. You seem to judge people swiftly as well as harshly. Not a winning combination. Now call me a hypocrite! Come on, you can do it! Judgemental / Hypocrite are commonly believed to be "Christian Kryptonite". Sorry man, I simply commented on what you said. You are reaching and trying to get in hits against me and then you are upset that I defend myself. |
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" Very true.. and if you took what I wrote as a critisism of something you wrote? It was not. It was simply my view as it pertained to the OP's post. You do not have any need inspired by me, to defend your views from me. Hi there I really do not jump on anyones opinion unless they jump on mine. I have views that to is my right. |
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Personally, I don't think it's any of the church's business what I do.
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Hi Sudecia, This is a really good question & took a lot of courage to ask. I pray you get the proper response you're looking for.
As for the act of masturbation, it is not a sin. As mere babies we touch ourselves because it feels good. GOD made us that way. It was HIS gift to us to enjoy sex & touching but under the yoke of marriage. The sin is the thought process you have while masturbating. Like Jonlaw mentioned, it's lust & we are called to flee from sexual impurities like lustful thoughts. and we are to be in control 1Thesolonians 4:3-6 "....that each of you should learn to control his/her own body in a way that is holy & honorablenot in passionate lust." Remedy: I've been through an intensive "Every Man's Battle" where we were train or condition to bounce our eyes from sexual impurities or just look the other way. It's a process of relearning what we learned in our past. I pray this will help you to overcome & be guiltless.GOD bless. T  mie
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"" Very true.. and if you took what I wrote as a critisism of something you wrote? It was not. It was simply my view as it pertained to the OP's post. You do not have any need inspired by me, to defend your views from me. Hi there I really do not jump on anyones opinion unless they jump on mine. I have views that to is my right. Hey my friend I do not feel the need to defend myself to you. You said something and I just was discussing why I had the point of view I had. And the point is the lady who asked the question in agreed. I hope you have a great day and really I was not attcking you in anyway and sorry if I offended you 
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" " It's not a big deal. It's just something that I want to do, but feel bad about, so want to know what others think. Thanks for everyone's opinions. And thanks for not judging. A person has got to ask themseves if was right why do I feel bad about it? Maybe its a conviction of the Holy Spirit.  Hi thanks four questions and your sincere desire for anwers hope you got what you were looking for. I think you're right. It just sucks that our own body is temptation. |
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Masterbation may be a sin, but no man or woman can live sin free, even after being saved do we sin. God forgives us our sin with dedication and faithfulness. Of course that doesn't mean throw caution to the wind, but it's not something to beat yourself up over either. According to some obscure texts, sex before marriage isn't considered a big deal either;^]
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As someone who went to a Baptist school for the majority of her life, I honestly believe that the reason so many Christians think of masturbation as evil is from this:
Matthew 5:28 – “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who has looked a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” (NIV) However, as a non-Christian, and a realist, I believe masturbation to be a form of sexual expression, release of tension, and actually healthy and good for you. Babies learn to stimulate themselves before they learn to walk, and according to doctrine, children are innocent. Also, how else are you to learn to please your partner, and yourself? If you don't know how your body works, it makes having an intimate relationship harder. |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Sat 01/19/08 04:15 PM
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The idea that masterbation is a sin is pre-Christian. Back 'in the day', it was believed that the fluid (seman) contained the eggs that became the babies and that women were merely the vessel for incubation. (anyone want to dispute that men began this religion?)
So - in the Jewish faith it was 'sin' for a man to masterbate to the point of 'spilling the seed' as it was considered 'murder' of the unborn child(ren) within the egg(s). In order to STOP men from 'thinking' about their desires and becoming aroused it was mandatory for ALL young men to 'study' their lessons. An idle mind was considered to be ripe fruit for desire and thus every waking hour was to be devoted to work or study. This is the origin of the 'sin' of masterbation. It was NEVER considerd a sin for a woman to materbate. But like all other sins, "supposedly" the crusifixion of Christ put away the 'old ways'. Whether you beleive that or not, at least you are woman - so dam it girl - get some action, toys are fun too! |
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The idea that masterbation is a sin is pre-Christian. Back 'in the day', it was believed that the fluid (seman) contained the eggs that became the babies and that women were merely the vessel for incubation. (anyone want to dispute the men began this religion?) So - in the Jewish faith it was 'sin' for a man to masterbate to the point of 'spilling the seed' as it was considered 'murder' of the unborn child withing the egg. In order to STOP men from 'thinking' about their desires and becoming aroused it was mandatory for ALL young men to 'study' their lessons. An idle mind was considered to be ripe fruit for desire and thus every waking hour was to be devoted to work or study. This is the origin of the 'sin' of masterbation. It was NEVER considerd a sin for a woman to materbate. But like all other sins, "supposedly" the crusifixion of Christ put away the 'old ways'. Whether you beleive that or not, at least you are woman - so dam it girl - get some action, toys are fun too! You make me laugh. Kat |
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Hi Kat - you beautiful woman. How's Lynn?
Kat, you're a rebel from way back, own up - you own any 'toys'? What? (of course I do) as the song says "I've got the biggest balls of them all".
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Hi Kat - you beautiful woman. How's Lynn? Kat, you're a rebel from way back, own up - you own any 'toys'? What? (of course I do) as the song says "I've got the biggest balls of them all". I truly do not. But, when I did; it was to piss off my man. I chased him around the house with it. You should have seen it.zzzz zzzzz zzzzz "get that thing away from me!" "stop it!" LOL But...of course I hadda try it? Kat |
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Oh Kat, what a picture. Oh, that's just TOO funny!!! |
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