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If you read what i typed, I said that OBAMA does not stand or sing the Pledge or the National Anthem. That is a slap in the face to all the men and women who died to give us the freedoms we have today. Obama is a poor excuse for an American if he will not willingly do these things. Period. That is about as applicable as the link you posted.. How is that guy involved with the race or topic? |
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Edited by
mrtxstar
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Fri 01/04/08 08:51 PM
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Senators do not get elected president. Give me a Governor or a Mayor over a Senator any day. Hmmm.. I guess the history books are wrong then. James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Benjamin Harrison, Warren G. Harding, Harry S. Truman, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. Just to be the devil's advocate here... So.. the Republican Front Runner is a former Governor.. That's good.. Who failed to report campaign funds: Not so good. Who is an ordained Southern Baptist Pastor.. and who's site.. and slogan has the first word you see is "Faith". Which comes before family and freedom. How exactly is that a political attribute? Yes in America's history senators have been elected president. However, in this day of modern politics, the trend is not in favor of Senators being elected to presidential office. Next, how is faith a political attribute? I would hope that whom ever is president is guided by the will of God. If not, we will all be damned by their actions. Our country was founded on Christian values. The leader of this country should have the moral compass to make decisions based on those values. All the current canidates, (even Obama) claim to be christian so there must be something positive to be said for that attribute. Noone has answered my original question which is on topic... What are Obama's qualifications to be president? |
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first off I would like to say Obama and Hilary are just too slick to me.I personally am seriously considering John Edwards.
second,it disturbs me that people are sizing up candidates based, not on their platform,but their race,religion or sex. People are also voting based on the current poll results.Please do not let the media elect our president.do research and pick the one whom you feel can do the best job regardless of party affiliation. thank you.. 
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I'm pulling for Huckabee... I'm a person who doesn't judge the candidates based on their political party. I go by the best person for the job, and I believe that Mike Huckabee would make a great president. I lived in Arkansas for the whole 10 years that he was governor, and he did alot of good things for that state. I said the whole time that he should run for president, b/c he's a good man who would do good for our country. I agree...but i just wish Colin powell would run.... |
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Edited by
leahmarie
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Sat 01/05/08 06:42 AM
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Jayme and isaac ..... so you guys are pulling for Huckabee. Are you aware of the following?
The Supreme Court of our Land has found sodomy is a constitutional right. That's correct; it was on the front pages of Time and just about every major newspaper and magazine during Christmas week. Huckabee's statement, made one week after the decision, is that he agreed with the court's sodomy ruling. The Supreme Court's ruling on sodomy has been denounced by every conservative and Christian group in America -- as well as other random groups of sane individuals having no conservative inclinations whatsoever. Huckabee opposes school choice. Wait, let me clarify Huckabee's "school choice." He is in favor of school choice for kids in Mexico, not American school children. Huckabee believes in giving Mexican kids the choice of going to school there or here. Huckabee promoted giving in-state tuition in Arkansas to illegal immigrants from Mexico -- but not to U.S. school children from Ohio. He justified being against American kids and for Mexican children with the following statement, "I don't believe you punish the children," he said, "for the crime and sins of the parents." Please explain to me since when is not offering someone lavish taxpayer-funded benefits a form of punishment? That's almost as crazy as a governor pardoning a known sex offender so he can go out and rape and kill. Whoops! Isn't Huckabee's name associated with that scenario?! Huckabee has stated that he is for illegal immigration. He has said illegal immigration gives Americans a chance to make up for slavery. Okay, maybe I am a bit dense, but I really need someone to explain that one to me. At any event, you two who want to cast your vote for Huckabee can rest assure that when you do so, you are casting a vote for illegal immigration, sodomy, and prejudice against American school children. |
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leahmarie...
Why don't you come up with some original thought instead of plagiarizing the work of others. Here is the original statements as made by none other than Ann Coulter. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20071227/cm_ucac/liberalssinghuckelujah |
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Jayme and isaac ..... so you guys are pulling for Huckabee. Are you aware of the following? The Supreme Court of our Land has found sodomy is a constitutional right. That's correct; it was on the front pages of Time and just about every major newspaper and magazine during Christmas week. Huckabee's statement, made one week after the decision, is that he agreed with the court's sodomy ruling. The Supreme Court's ruling on sodomy has been denounced by every conservative and Christian group in America -- as well as other random groups of sane individuals having no conservative inclinations whatsoever. Huckabee opposes school choice. Wait, let me clarify Huckabee's "school choice." He is in favor of school choice for kids in Mexico, not American school children. Huckabee believes in giving Mexican kids the choice of going to school there or here. Huckabee promoted giving in-state tuition in Arkansas to illegal immigrants from Mexico -- but not to U.S. school children from Ohio. He justified being against American kids and for Mexican children with the following statement, "I don't believe you punish the children," he said, "for the crime and sins of the parents." Please explain to me since when is not offering someone lavish taxpayer-funded benefits a form of punishment? That's almost as crazy as a governor pardoning a known sex offender so he can go out and rape and kill. Whoops! Isn't Huckabee's name associated with that scenario?! Huckabee has stated that he is for illegal immigration. He has said illegal immigration gives Americans a chance to make up for slavery. Okay, maybe I am a bit dense, but I really need someone to explain that one to me. At any event, you two who want to cast your vote for Huckabee can rest assure that when you do so, you are casting a vote for illegal immigration, sodomy, and prejudice against American school children. As i said, they will all have dirt, every single one of them. Do you have anything in your life that you don't want others to know? there are flaws yes. And unfortunatly we really haven't had a GREAT canidate for president in about 8-12 years. I wasn't aware of some of those facts but i do appreciate you posting them...if you read my responses this is just for educations so people can make a educated decision so i appreciate the information. But some of the issues with huckabee...take for example illegal immigration, it depends on the standpoint that he takes. Immigrants are good in some respects. Personally i have no problem with immigrants I just think there should be a law that says...regardless of where your from...that as long as you work in the US you pay income tax and contribute to our economy...yes i understand ILLEGALs don't do this but anyone working her should. so if he takes that stand point i'm all for it. Again i apreciate the information |
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mrxstar..... leahmarie...
Why don't you come up with some original thought instead of plagiarizing the work of others. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I saw an excerpt from Ann Coulter's column. However, I had read/heard those items about Huckabee before I read Coulter. Is there anything wrong with me being like minded with Ann Coulter's thoughts? Next, I suppose you will be criticizing my spelling and grammar. Why not do something constructive and tell us what your thoughts are about Huckabee? |
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mrxstar..... leahmarie... Why don't you come up with some original thought instead of plagiarizing the work of others. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I saw an excerpt from Ann Coulter's column. However, I had read/heard those items about Huckabee before I read Coulter. Is there anything wrong with me being like minded with Ann Coulter's thoughts? Next, I suppose you will be criticizing my spelling and grammar. Why not do something constructive and tell us what your thoughts are about Huckabee? First, I am on your side. I just think it is best to give credit where credit is due. Futhermore, the topic is Obama, not Huckabee. |
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While my mind is hardly made up as to which party I will vote.. or who in that party I will vote for. I will list a few attributes, in my opinion, in order to satisfy mrtxstar request of:
What are Obama's qualifications to be president? All things considered. I believe his overall lack of experience to be a little refreshing! It has been proven that experience does not equate good leadership… in our current Administration, for instance. It would seem experience has many of his counterparts voting contrary to what they say, beholding to special interest and corporate America, before they listen to the will of the people they lead… Although I do not completely agree with his voting record on all the issues at least his actions agree with his voting record for the most part. Good character is not a bad thing to consider when choosing the leader of the free world. I do agree that we need to come up with a redeployment plan in Iraq that will allow Iraq to become her own nation, without completely abandoning them as most of the left would like us to do. I also agree with his record on education, doing something about the uninsured, homeland security, civil rights… his domestic policy overall. The attention he is giving to our heavily bloated prison system is new and different. In a climate where making longer sentencing guidelines, imprisoning more people and ultimately building more cell space seems to be the order of the day, he is talking about programs that actually can reduce recidivism rates. Which will actively reduce the need for prison space. Being proactive rather than reactive is a skill we could use more of in our domestic issues. His experience as a young Senator does not preclude him from the White House as mrtxstar has suggested. Yes, it might run against current trends. However. as a nation we don’t seem to be too happy with current trends. Maybe, just maybe his time in the Senate might enable his Administration and the Senate to work together solving this nations varied ills? Now… looking back at the rest of this thread.. I suppose I should bring up the race card. I’m not going to lie. I’m attracted to his being of mixed race. It gives him life experience that puts him in a unique position. While it would not be the sole reason I would choose to back him.. it would be a bonus to see someone who has been through some difficulties in life, other than being weaned from the silver spoon. If he was elected.. it would certainly send the message to the Good ‘ol Boys club.. We are tired of them. In regards to the assertions by a few posters that he is unpatriotic, does not support our troops and is a radical Muslim. Try to not believe everything you read in email forwards. It is very unbecoming. Also it is highly reflective of an innate inability to think for yourselves and distinguish truth from fiction. In so far as the current Republican front runner? I’m pretty sure I’m not ready for a Right Wing Fundamentalist to be in charge. That just never seems to spell “True Republican” which by definition means less government. The Religious Right stand on a platform that is anything but less. I can envision the possibility of that being like our current Administration on steroids. |
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Edited by
mrtxstar
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Sat 01/05/08 09:58 AM
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Jistme...
Thank you for your ensight. You might be surprised how similar our thought process are. I don't know enough about Obama to discern if he is good or bad for this country. The substance of your comments I do not disagree with. I wish more people would just answer the simple question posed. What are his qualifications to be president. |
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You might be surprised how simular our thought process are. The folks who are holding the puppet strings might not like us to realize that though. They much prefer we stand on opposing sides of the line throwing rocks at each other. That way, we are so busy fighting amongst our selves we never address the real issues. Greed and power mongering amongst the politicians and corporate interests.. no matter the party affiliation. |
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I concur
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Jayme and isaac ..... so you guys are pulling for Huckabee. Are you aware of the following? The Supreme Court of our Land has found sodomy is a constitutional right. That's correct; it was on the front pages of Time and just about every major newspaper and magazine during Christmas week. Huckabee's statement, made one week after the decision, is that he agreed with the court's sodomy ruling. The Supreme Court's ruling on sodomy has been denounced by every conservative and Christian group in America -- as well as other random groups of sane individuals having no conservative inclinations whatsoever. Huckabee opposes school choice. Wait, let me clarify Huckabee's "school choice." He is in favor of school choice for kids in Mexico, not American school children. Huckabee believes in giving Mexican kids the choice of going to school there or here. Huckabee promoted giving in-state tuition in Arkansas to illegal immigrants from Mexico -- but not to U.S. school children from Ohio. He justified being against American kids and for Mexican children with the following statement, "I don't believe you punish the children," he said, "for the crime and sins of the parents." Please explain to me since when is not offering someone lavish taxpayer-funded benefits a form of punishment? That's almost as crazy as a governor pardoning a known sex offender so he can go out and rape and kill. Whoops! Isn't Huckabee's name associated with that scenario?! Huckabee has stated that he is for illegal immigration. He has said illegal immigration gives Americans a chance to make up for slavery. Okay, maybe I am a bit dense, but I really need someone to explain that one to me. At any event, you two who want to cast your vote for Huckabee can rest assure that when you do so, you are casting a vote for illegal immigration, sodomy, and prejudice against American school children. I am sorry, but allowing mexican children to have a good education is NOWHERE NEAR the same as letting off sex offenders... I personally I think sodomy is a choice, who's business is it if someone decides to take it up the rear? LOL, is there gonna be a cop in every bedroom in america making sure the men don't accidentally slip into the wrong spot? Well then, lol, its not an issue. I dont' think he's being prejudice against american children. Do you live in arkansas? He made the school systems there ALOT better and alot safer. I can't complain about what he did for the schools... |
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i wouldn't vote obama dude since he's muslim---never know what this character can do if he's the prez--
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Edited by
Jistme
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Sat 01/05/08 02:43 PM
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i wouldn't vote obama dude since he's muslim---never know what this character can do if he's the prez-- Besides... If I were Muslim, or Hindu or Buddhist.. Does that automatically eliminate me as a natural born American? |
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i wouldn't vote obama dude since he's muslim---never know what this character can do if he's the prez-- Did you actually read any of the previous pages/posts???? |
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i wouldn't vote obama dude since he's muslim---never know what this character can do if he's the prez-- I'm not even a fan of Obama, but I find that completely ignorant.. |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
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i know--and yes i've read------i still would not vote any muslim whatsoever--and i'm sorry if it bugg the sh!t of anyone--
that's all i can say at this point--- |
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