Furthermore, "they" hate us because we are, not because of where we are. The radicals will kill Americans where ever they find them including America.

yes, we don't have to screw with their country to hate us. we screw with enough other countries to have gained a reputation as blundering world police. we don't often leave a region in better standing than when we entered

mrtxstar,

I agree. But we also
need to go after them
in Afghanistan, where
the Taliban is resurgent.

And we still haven't got
Bin Laden. He could be
anywhere, but might be
in Pakistan.

But even if we cut off
one head, the hydra will
just grow new ones.

At this very moment,
tommorrow's suicide
bombers are being
indoctrinated in
madrassas all over
Pakistan.

And, we need to better
secure our borders
and not believe the
lie that if we get
them over there they
won't come here.

Our national security
depends on it.

Actually, its turned into quite the opposite now. Al Qaeda is running scared, the province that was once the center of Al Qaeda, Anbar Province, is about to be returned to full Iraqi control because Al Qaeda is in retreat. Just thought I'd add my two sense to rash claims lacking in reality.

Afghanistan, Syria and Iran (two state sponsors of terror), and the border of northern Pakistan are terrorist states.

Iraq was flooded by terrorists, Zarqawi was there before we invaded and had set up bases of operations and movement of devoted terrorists into the country, all which the Saddam government knew about. However, they have been run out thanks to the US military and the Iraqi people who first favored or allowed them to remain, but then realized they were a great evil and destroying their country and now are being tossed out from one province after another.

America has global interest and has every right to defend those interests. Radical Islam appreciated your passive stance to stay out of "their" countries. Jihad is easier to win when they only have to wage it in only one country(America). Is that what you want? You must take the fight to the enemy.

I'm glad you believe all the garbage propaganda you're fed by our government.

al-Anbar Province (which is how it's properly spelled) was only cleaned up because the Iraqi tribal chiefs stood up against the insurgents, not because of what we did.

And whether Zarqawi was in Iraq prior to the invasion or not isn't that relevant and shouldn't be used as a basis of a preemptive strike. Furthermore, Zarqawi was not associated with Saddam, he was actually more tied to the Iranians than Saddam. Also, evidence has begun to show that Zarqawi was not a significant player in Al-Qaeda, and may have actually been been disassociated from them even prior to our invasion.

So, when you come back with an opinion based on real facts and not innuendo spun to you by our government or Fox News, let me know and I'll listen.

I don't. Having the ability to be persuasive as well as tough in delicate situations such as that are the attributes needed by our new President. I personally don't believe Hillary has any persuasive ability whatsoever, unlike her husband. While I might not know whether Barack has both qualities, my feeling is that he does. And to regain our power in the international arena, we need a leader who can persuade other country's leaders to follow our lead. I have confidence that Barack is the one who can accomplish that.

However, if you look at all the candidates in both parties, who, of any of them is truly fully qualified to take that on? The only one that truly had that kind of experience just dropped out of the race today...Bill Richardson. No one on the Republican side could. The closest one is McCain, and I personally think he's too out of touch with the majority of the electorate to be electable.

I see your point. I do believe that Hillary is quite intelligent to handle situations but I see your point regarding her persuasive abilities.

I am watching Barack. I know that he is a good speaker. It's just that if he becomes President, I hope he is as good as he says he is. (Pardon the grammer.)

Why is it, after all this time, so many americans still don't know the definition of Jihad? And why is it they don't remember clinton putting together a special task force dedicated to hunting Osama? I'm not one of those "stay on topic or else" guys, but that is pretty far off.

Obama seems right to me, universal health care, pro union, anti sudanese genocide, strong leader, Obama may be our only chance left. However I would vote for Mccain also, just not as quick;^]

Add Biden to that list of experiance, though he's dropped out now too;^]

The AP, Boston Globe, Time Magazine, NY Times, and other sources of news that have posted very good news out of Iraq recently were taken over by the government and Fox News? That is certainly news to me!

lol

Very weak, you are the one who did the spinning.