Topic: Obama 08
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Mon 01/07/08 03:57 AM

Is it the way some people translate scripture?
I'd say it is that in part.. coupled with the fear mongering often used by the leadership of Churches and politics...

Depending on who you listen to, what version you are beholding to.. I find Biblical scripture to be much more damning and violent towards our fellow man, then any writings in the Qu'ran.

Not to sound as if I'm some knowledgeable theologian ~ I just know social engineering and propaganda when I see it. The modern Biblical translations when compared to the Hebrew or Greek text it was drawn from, coupled with recorded history, offers much evidence of propaganda that seems to be working to this day!


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Mon 01/07/08 04:58 AM
isaac..... I am not for Obama simply, because he doesn't have the experience. Also, the little I know about him is that he leans too far to the left to suit me. I prefer someone who is in the middle/center.

The info you posted about him is downright scary, and if true, you bring up valid points. Are there other sites that confirm this or is it just more of Hillary dirty tricks?

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Mon 01/07/08 05:13 AM
Whatever happen to separation of church en state?
En how that ever expected to work, I do not know. Bush is a prime example. A person's philosophy IS their religion en we are a little out a whack in fundamentalism in my very humble opinion.

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Mon 01/07/08 09:08 AM
John Edwards for President!!drinker

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Mon 01/07/08 09:36 AM

Whatever happen to separation of church en state?
En how that ever expected to work, I do not know. Bush is a prime example. A person's philosophy IS their religion en we are a little out a whack in fundamentalism in my very humble opinion.


i wish we had a true separation of church and state, none of this religious pandering crap that goes on

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Mon 01/07/08 10:31 AM
the run down=the U.S. is at war for oil for Holuberton=Holuberton is owned by the Bush family and Bin Ladden family=Bin Ladden family contributes 8 to 10% of the U.S. economy=to catch an prosecute osama,would lead to withdrawel of the Bin Laddens an a economic crash=if this war is not stopped in time we are going to crash=who ever sits on the hot seat gets burned=obamma or clinton dont have what it really takes to pull the U.S. out of this ****=as for Hilary=women are too emotional an lie alot now picture a whole congress,senate..etc of ANGRY perioded BI...women=Obama=well picture black pres,mexican,puerto rican,amish,japanese,chinese,hunduran,columbian,jamaican...etcetc an the list goes on

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Mon 01/07/08 10:33 AM
Edited by mrtxstar on Mon 01/07/08 10:35 AM
Seperation of church and state does not mean the void of religion in government. It means no religious establishment (no matter the religiion) will have political power over government affairs. When it is WE THE PEOPLE that elect the ones with the power and we are a christian nation, you will inheriently have christian values and beliefs in government. IN GOD WE TRUST, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and there are many other religious statements in our government. That is because our founding fathers believed we get our basic rights from God, not government. That's right, our rights are God given. Our government simple does just that.... it governs.

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Mon 01/07/08 10:36 AM

as for Hilary=women are too emotional an lie alot now picture a whole congress,senate..etc of ANGRY perioded BI...women=


You ever just think you should stop being yourself?.....huhhuh huh

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Mon 01/07/08 10:41 AM
Edited by toastedoranges on Mon 01/07/08 10:42 AM

Seperation of church and state does not mean the void of religion in government. It means no religious establishment (no matter the religiion) will have political power over government affairs. When it is WE THE PEOPLE that elect the ones with the power and we are a christian nation, you will inheriently have christian values and beliefs in government. IN GOD WE TRUST, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and there are many other religious statements in our government. That is because our founding fathers believed we get our basic rights from God, not government. That's right, our rights are God given. Our government simple does just that.... it governs.


our founding fathers were not remotely as ignorant as you suggest

something about money for ya to read
http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html

and now about the pledge..

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E04E1DA153EF934A15755C0A9649C8B63

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Mon 01/07/08 10:48 AM
one nation under GOD=:smile: Goverment Of Defensebigsmile

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Mon 01/07/08 11:09 AM

the run down=the U.S. is at war for oil for Holuberton=Holuberton is owned by the Bush family and Bin Ladden family=Bin Ladden family contributes 8 to 10% of the U.S. economy=to catch an prosecute osama,would lead to withdrawel of the Bin Laddens an a economic crash=if this war is not stopped in time we are going to crash=who ever sits on the hot seat gets burned=obamma or clinton dont have what it really takes to pull the U.S. out of this ****=as for Hilary=women are too emotional an lie alot now picture a whole congress,senate..etc of ANGRY perioded BI...women=Obama=well picture black pres,mexican,puerto rican,amish,japanese,chinese,hunduran,columbian,jamaican...etcetc an the list goes on


Is Holuberton a town in HI?

When did the period get replaced with an "=" ? Am I the only person who finds that extremely amusing? Do women get "perioded", or should this poster learn how to use one?

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Mon 01/07/08 11:10 AM
Edited by mrtxstar on Mon 01/07/08 11:19 AM


Seperation of church and state does not mean the void of religion in government. It means no religious establishment (no matter the religiion) will have political power over government affairs. When it is WE THE PEOPLE that elect the ones with the power and we are a christian nation, you will inheriently have christian values and beliefs in government. IN GOD WE TRUST, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and there are many other religious statements in our government. That is because our founding fathers believed we get our basic rights from God, not government. That's right, our rights are God given. Our government simple does just that.... it governs.


our founding fathers were not remotely as ignorant as you suggest

something about money for ya to read
http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html

and now about the pledge..

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E04E1DA153EF934A15755C0A9649C8B63

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Your references do not contradiict my statement. However, it is interesting to note, you would use a leftist rag like the NY Times in your rebuttal. Now I know who you really are. The ignorance you imply I have of our founding fathers is your own. I stand by my original statement. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

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Mon 01/07/08 11:12 AM
Edited by toastedoranges on Mon 01/07/08 11:13 AM
Your references do not contradiict my statement. However, it is interesting to note, you would use a leftist rag like the NY Times in your rebuttal. Now I now who you really are. The ignorance you imply I have of our fonding fathers is your own. I stand by my original statement. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!


you know not what you say.

do you know what a deist is?


btw, i just snagged a link from google. i snagged a relivant link to the conversation, who it came from changes those FACTS in no way

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Mon 01/07/08 11:14 AM


the run down=the U.S. is at war for oil for Holuberton=Holuberton is owned by the Bush family and Bin Ladden family=Bin Ladden family contributes 8 to 10% of the U.S. economy=to catch an prosecute osama,would lead to withdrawel of the Bin Laddens an a economic crash=if this war is not stopped in time we are going to crash=who ever sits on the hot seat gets burned=obamma or clinton dont have what it really takes to pull the U.S. out of this ****=as for Hilary=women are too emotional an lie alot now picture a whole congress,senate..etc of ANGRY perioded BI...women=Obama=well picture black pres,mexican,puerto rican,amish,japanese,chinese,hunduran,columbian,jamaican...etcetc an the list goes on


Is Holuberton a town in HI?

When did the period get replaced with an "=" ? Am I the only person who finds that extremely amusing? Do women get "perioded", or should this poster learn how to use one?

Well I found it a bit offensive actually (see previous post) but I think you are pretty funny!!laugh laugh

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Mon 01/07/08 11:18 AM
you know a woman ur 2 u cant stand especially during that time pic a gov full===war war war on all fronts an its not the quotation marks its the message....no offenseindifferent

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Mon 01/07/08 11:20 AM
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Well I found it a bit offensive actually (see previous post) but I think you are pretty funny!!laugh laugh


Ty for that... but I did not find it offensive... You seem like a smart lady, how can you take comments from a person so obviously ignorant and give them enough value to take offense? This is a joke, seriously!

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Mon 01/07/08 11:23 AM
Edited by FreshMountainAir on Mon 01/07/08 11:25 AM

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Mon 01/07/08 11:23 AM

you know a woman ur 2 u cant stand especially during that time pic a gov full===war war war on all fronts an its not the quotation marks its the message....no offenseindifferent



Again, when did an "=" replace the period?

When I am I unable to be ambulatory? Do I need a wheelchair? Would I randomly blow up countries becuase I was bloated? You must not have gotten the post yet where I pointed out I think your ignorance is hysterical, and could not possibly take offense.

If you are not going to actually post on the topic, please go study puncuation and remedial English in general.

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Mon 01/07/08 11:24 AM


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Well I found it a bit offensive actually (see previous post) but I think you are pretty funny!!laugh laugh


Ty for that... but I did not find it offensive... You seem like a smart lady, how can you take comments from a person so obviously ignorant and give them enough value to take offense? This is a joke, seriously!


I find ignorance in general offensive....JMO! If people can't find the time to educate themselves on a topic than they should refrain from speaking about it!


We are definately on the same page here!! smokin

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Mon 01/07/08 11:25 AM


Well I found it a bit offensive actually (see previous post) but I think you are pretty funny!!laugh laugh


Ty for that... but I did not find it offensive... You seem like a smart lady, how can you take comments from a person so obviously ignorant and give them enough value to take offense? This is a joke, seriously!


I find ignorance in general offensive....JMO! If people can't find the time to educate themselves on a topic than they should refrain from speaking about it!