Topic: World War 3 War Drums Beating
Bart's photo
Wed 06/26/24 10:16 AM

When has a nuke Ever been tested against the Iron Dome . You think you know so much but none of your arguments support that theory. Ask the people in Israel that were spared 1000s of middles and bombs raining down on them. Iron Dome was 97% effective. Your lies and mis-information , like Biden’s lies and mis-information is not making the case for the liberal false narrative of America being better off now .. remember Biden is the one that supplied Iran with the $ billions that they use to attack Israel either from Iran or their proxy terrorists. If we elect Biden again expect even higher prices on everything we buy. Expect more crime on any street in any city. Expect poorer graduation rates and low education in our schools. Expect wars to rage on and expect more devision among Americans , Biden is bad for America any way you look at it.

Yeah, I guess I should defer to your superior knowledge about anti-ballistic missile defense because you know all about it. Amiright?

Defending against nukes isn't easy.
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/missile-defense[/url
Again, no you aren’t right. I don’t know beans about missile defense or nuke weapons , but I know if we are attacked it will probably be from strategic non- nuclear weapons at first and that’s where a defense like the Iron Dome would help protect us. But to just pass it off because one certain group thinks it won’t work well against nukes is a mistake. That’s why Trump created the Space Force.

Mortman's photo
Wed 06/26/24 10:39 PM
Again, no you aren’t right. I don’t know beans about missile defense or nuke weapons , but I know if we are attacked it will probably be from strategic non- nuclear weapons at first and that’s where a defense like the Iron Dome would help protect us. But to just pass it off because one certain group thinks it won’t work well against nukes is a mistake. That’s why Trump created the Space Force.

Okay, then Iron Dome isn't for the US. We don't have an adversary within artillery range. Iron Dome is for defense against relatively short-range systems. The US Army has counter-battery fire systems and can deploy it quickly to most any place on Earth, if needed, but more importantly, we let our dissidents petition the government so they needn't fire home-made missiles into our cities to get attention.

Bart's photo
Thu 06/27/24 03:52 AM

Again, no you aren’t right. I don’t know beans about missile defense or nuke weapons , but I know if we are attacked it will probably be from strategic non- nuclear weapons at first and that’s where a defense like the Iron Dome would help protect us. But to just pass it off because one certain group thinks it won’t work well against nukes is a mistake. That’s why Trump created the Space Force.

Okay, then Iron Dome isn't for the US. We don't have an adversary within artillery range. Iron Dome is for defense against relatively short-range systems. The US Army has counter-battery fire systems and can deploy it quickly to most any place on Earth, if needed, but more importantly, we let our dissidents petition the government so they needn't fire home-made missiles into our cities to get attention.

Have you ever heard of Cuba, communist country 90 miles away from Florida. Russians are building ports and bases there .. they are parking their navy ships there.. why cant democrats see what is right in front of their eyes , or do they choose to overlook the obvious dangers this president is allowing to affect our lives and our country

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Thu 06/27/24 06:30 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/data-reveals-rising-economic-distress-across-america-despite-post-pandemic-growth-131451158.html


When the economy improves American will not be in distress when government gets a conservative in Office and dumps J Biden.

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Sat 07/27/24 07:50 PM
Russia Warships Visits Cuba A 2nd Time


https://youtu.be/f0ESdfBy2oA?si=3nseAIbEKvs93UNN

Wonder if America is cheerleading again at this 2nd visit :thinking:

Mortman's photo
Sun 07/28/24 04:49 AM
Have you ever heard of Cuba, communist country 90 miles away from Florida. Russians are building ports and bases there .. they are parking their navy ships there.. why cant democrats see what is right in front of their eyes , or do they choose to overlook the obvious dangers this president is allowing to affect our lives and our country

What makes you think Russian warships haven't been visiting Cuba for decades?

Bart's photo
Sun 07/28/24 05:08 AM

Have you ever heard of Cuba, communist country 90 miles away from Florida. Russians are building ports and bases there .. they are parking their navy ships there.. why cant democrats see what is right in front of their eyes , or do they choose to overlook the obvious dangers this president is allowing to affect our lives and our country

What makes you think Russian warships haven't been visiting Cuba for decades?
yea, they have been since the sixties , The Cuban Missile Crisis.. I was living in southern Fla. at that time. But why do you think they are of no consequence to us since they are frequent visitors. I don’t see your point.. 90 miles is well within range of any weapons Russia or China have and both are in Cuba and even closer with there ships and planes buzzing close to our airspace… if the Biden administration has been just shrugging off these potential problems like adversaries in Cuba like you do , than I can understand why we are closer to WWIII than ever before…

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Sun 07/28/24 11:45 PM
yea, they have been since the sixties , The Cuban Missile Crisis.. I was living in southern Fla. at that time. But why do you think they are of no consequence to us since they are frequent visitors. I don’t see your point.. 90 miles is well within range of any weapons Russia or China have and both are in Cuba and even closer with there ships and planes buzzing close to our airspace… if the Biden administration has been just shrugging off these potential problems like adversaries in Cuba like you do , than I can understand why we are closer to WWIII than ever before…

Cuba is close enough to launch ICBMs and even SSMs from warships, but the US Navy already watches everything going on (Naval Station Guantanamo Bay is in Cuba) and anything launched from Cuba is probably not going to make it to Florida, much less anywhere else. If anything, WW3 is happening in Ukraine, and if Harris wins in November, I'm betting Putin quietly winds down his efforts there.

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Mon 07/29/24 01:33 AM

Pity Ronald Reagan's 'Star Wars' plan got shelved, there could have been laser weapons in space by now, it certainly rattled the Russians at the time, and when he reactivated the four Iowa-class battleships as well as expanding the USS Navy by building new warships in the 1980's, meeting the increasing Russian threat at that time.

Bart's photo
Mon 07/29/24 05:28 AM

yea, they have been since the sixties , The Cuban Missile Crisis.. I was living in southern Fla. at that time. But why do you think they are of no consequence to us since they are frequent visitors. I don’t see your point.. 90 miles is well within range of any weapons Russia or China have and both are in Cuba and even closer with there ships and planes buzzing close to our airspace… if the Biden administration has been just shrugging off these potential problems like adversaries in Cuba like you do , than I can understand why we are closer to WWIII than ever before…

Cuba is close enough to launch ICBMs and even SSMs from warships, but the US Navy already watches everything going on (Naval Station Guantanamo Bay is in Cuba) and anything launched from Cuba is probably not going to make it to Florida, much less anywhere else. If anything, WW3 is happening in Ukraine, and if Harris wins in November, I'm betting Putin quietly winds down his efforts there.

Lol… really, is that the way democrats discuss the threats to our country? ( they probably won’t launch any arsenal at us ) only 90 miles away . and our defense system is in the country that could launch that attack. What about a possible attack on Guantanamo bay from within that could destroy our counter weapons system, or will that probably not happen either… and if you think Harris will bring anything to the table to stop Putin , than you are living in fantasy land…

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Mon 07/29/24 10:41 AM


Pity Ronald Reagan's 'Star Wars' plan got shelved, there could have been laser weapons in space by now, it certainly rattled the Russians at the time, and when he reactivated the four Iowa-class battleships as well as expanding the USS Navy by building new warships in the 1980's, meeting the increasing Russian threat at that time.



Your country, Duttonee, has unveiled a laser weaponry that is capable of shooting drones out of the skies a few months ago. I guess that is as close a 'Star War' plan as one can get.

Slimme's photo
Mon 07/29/24 10:46 AM
Edited by Slimme on Mon 07/29/24 10:49 AM


yea, they have been since the sixties , The Cuban Missile Crisis.. I was living in southern Fla. at that time. But why do you think they are of no consequence to us since they are frequent visitors. I don’t see your point.. 90 miles is well within range of any weapons Russia or China have and both are in Cuba and even closer with there ships and planes buzzing close to our airspace… if the Biden administration has been just shrugging off these potential problems like adversaries in Cuba like you do , than I can understand why we are closer to WWIII than ever before…

Cuba is close enough to launch ICBMs and even SSMs from warships, but the US Navy already watches everything going on (Naval Station Guantanamo Bay is in Cuba) and anything launched from Cuba is probably not going to make it to Florida, much less anywhere else. If anything, WW3 is happening in Ukraine, and if Harris wins in November, I'm betting Putin quietly winds down his efforts there.

Lol… really, is that the way democrats discuss the threats to our country? ( they probably won’t launch any arsenal at us ) only 90 miles away . and our defense system is in the country that could launch that attack. What about a possible attack on Guantanamo bay from within that could destroy our counter weapons system, or will that probably not happen either… and if you think Harris will bring anything to the table to stop Putin , than you are living in fantasy land…



Besides parking warships in Cuban waters on their second visit, Russian and for the first China together were conducting flights drills near Alaska 3 days ago. Their first visit last month saw Russia firing missiles during their navel drills but was hardly reported in the US news.

Mortman's photo
Wed 07/31/24 06:48 PM
Lol… really, is that the way democrats discuss the threats to our country? ( they probably won’t launch any arsenal at us ) only 90 miles away . and our defense system is in the country that could launch that attack. What about a possible attack on Guantanamo bay from within that could destroy our counter weapons system, or will that probably not happen either… and if you think Harris will bring anything to the table to stop Putin , than you are living in fantasy land…

I didn't say that the only counter weapon system was in Cuba, or even that any weapon system was in Cuba. This forum isn't the place to list all the military defenses of the US, but if you like, you can Google the US Navy's Arleigh Burke class destroyers, and the SM-6s thereon. I'm not worried about any number of Russian warships, considering their impotence around Ukraine. But maybe you can tell me how they'd get around US defenses from even 40 miles away, much less from around the port in Cuba.

I don't worry about Harris with regard to Putin, because I've seen nothing to indicate she'd give in, once Putin says something nice. She won't be inviting the Russian Foreign Minister into the Oval Office, or pledge Ukrainian land to Russia for a quick approval for new hotels in Moscow. There isn't even a rumor of a "pee tape" about Harris. Do you wish we could say the same about Trump?

Bart's photo
Thu 08/01/24 06:22 AM
Edited by Bart on Thu 08/01/24 06:28 AM

Lol… really, is that the way democrats discuss the threats to our country? ( they probably won’t launch any arsenal at us ) only 90 miles away . and our defense system is in the country that could launch that attack. What about a possible attack on Guantanamo bay from within that could destroy our counter weapons system, or will that probably not happen either… and if you think Harris will bring anything to the table to stop Putin , than you are living in fantasy land…

I didn't say that the only counter weapon system was in Cuba, or even that any weapon system was in Cuba. This forum isn't the place to list all the military defenses of the US, but if you like, you can Google the US Navy's Arleigh Burke class destroyers, and the SM-6s thereon. I'm not worried about any number of Russian warships, considering their impotence around Ukraine. But maybe you can tell me how they'd get around US defenses from even 40 miles away, much less from around the port in Cuba.

I don't worry about Harris with regard to Putin, because I've seen nothing to indicate she'd give in, once Putin says something nice. She won't be inviting the Russian Foreign Minister into the Oval Office, or pledge Ukrainian land to Russia for a quick approval for new hotels in Moscow. There isn't even a rumor of a "pee tape" about Harris. Do you wish we could say the same about Trump?

With respect, I don’t believe you are as informed about our weapons systems as you make out. Anybody with a serious mindset of our defense’s in and outside of the U.S. should not be so nonchalant about our advisory’s so close with such a ineffective president and misguided military advisors.. to say no way they could avoid our weapons defenses 100% is naive at best ,, but that’s a norm for most democrats.. everyone in 2001 thought we were impervious to a attack here but guess what happened 9/11… Harris vs. Putin,, lol , she has no clear original thoughts , she says what she thinks people will want to hear, to fit the audience she’s talking to.. such a fake… what will her warning be to Putin .. ‘ DON’T didn’t do much,,

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Thu 08/01/24 08:06 AM
With respect, I don’t believe you are as informed about our weapons systems as you make out. Anybody with a serious mindset of our defense’s in and outside of the U.S. should not be so nonchalant about our advisory’s so close with such a ineffective president and misguided military advisors.. to say no way they could avoid our weapons defenses 100% is naive at best ,, but that’s a norm for most democrats.. everyone in 2001 thought we were impervious to a attack here but guess what happened 9/11… Harris vs. Putin,, lol , she has no clear original thoughts , she says what she thinks people will want to hear, to fit the audience she’s talking to.. such a fake… what will her warning be to Putin .. ‘ DON’T didn’t do much,,

It's not my job, anymore, to be informed about military systems, but I do still like to follow current events, and your hysteria about a Russian ship off our coast just seems a little alarmist. Maybe if you really want to get upset, go look up Russian submarine capabilities. I'm sure those things come much closer than Cuba, any day of the week, and we have no way of knowing, as I'm sure the US Navy does likewise. And, again, I'm not fretting about it.

Maybe your alarm is from Republican talking points. Are we supposed to be scared of Russians in Cuba because of Biden & Harris, while you conveniently ignore Trump's failures and pretend Harris will get us attacked? 9/11 happened during the Bush Administration--not Clinton or Obama, and Obama's the one who got Bin Laden after Bush gave up. Trump's the guy who disbanded the NSC Pandemic Response Team back in 2018, and we all see how badly that turned out.

The president shouldn't be the "big ideas" person; they're the chief executive and they should act on expertly crafted plans. Put Trump in office, who always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, and we end up with the mess of the Trump Administration. And Trump's shown us that he's not worthy of even a basic security clearance, much less the highest position in government.

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Thu 08/01/24 09:51 AM
Edited by Bart on Thu 08/01/24 09:55 AM

With respect, I don’t believe you are as informed about our weapons systems as you make out. Anybody with a serious mindset of our defense’s in and outside of the U.S. should not be so nonchalant about our advisory’s so close with such a ineffective president and misguided military advisors.. to say no way they could avoid our weapons defenses 100% is naive at best ,, but that’s a norm for most democrats.. everyone in 2001 thought we were impervious to a attack here but guess what happened 9/11… Harris vs. Putin,, lol , she has no clear original thoughts , she says what she thinks people will want to hear, to fit the audience she’s talking to.. such a fake… what will her warning be to Putin .. ‘ DON’T didn’t do much,,

It's not my job, anymore, to be informed about military systems, but I do still like to follow current events, and your hysteria about a Russian ship off our coast just seems a little alarmist. Maybe if you really want to get upset, go look up Russian submarine capabilities. I'm sure those things come much closer than Cuba, any day of the week, and we have no way of knowing, as I'm sure the US Navy does likewise. And, again, I'm not fretting about it.

Maybe your alarm is from Republican talking points. Are we supposed to be scared of Russians in Cuba because of Biden & Harris, while you conveniently ignore Trump's failures and pretend Harris will get us attacked? 9/11 happened during the Bush Administration--not Clinton or Obama, and Obama's the one who got Bin Laden after Bush gave up. Trump's the guy who disbanded the NSC Pandemic Response Team back in 2018, and we all see how badly that turned out.

The president shouldn't be the "big ideas" person; they're the chief executive and they should act on expertly crafted plans. Put Trump in office, who always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, and we end up with the mess of the Trump Administration. And Trump's shown us that he's not worthy of even a basic security clearance, much less the highest position in government.
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What are yo talking about? Who cares what party was in charge on 9/11… it happened. Duh..there is a difference between hysteria and concern. The concern is Russia and China teaming up to threaten the U.S.. Do you really think that we shouldn’t be concerned about that ? And yes considering the past performance in Afghanistan and the miserable failure the Biden administration is responsible for should be a cause for extra concern .. What is Trumps failure? … that no wars were started anywhere during Trumps term ? is peace in the world a failure to you ? and two wars started during Biden’s presidency is a failure? so yes I think a Harris presidency would be another incentive for Russia to expand the war.. weak and inept is what started that war and her presidency will be a continuation of the same..

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Thu 08/01/24 07:40 PM
What are yo talking about? Who cares what party was in charge on 9/11… it happened. Duh..there is a difference between hysteria and concern. The concern is Russia and China teaming up to threaten the U.S.. Do you really think that we shouldn’t be concerned about that ? And yes considering the past performance in Afghanistan and the miserable failure the Biden administration is responsible for should be a cause for extra concern .. What is Trumps failure? … that no wars were started anywhere during Trumps term ? is peace in the world a failure to you ? and two wars started during Biden’s presidency is a failure? so yes I think a Harris presidency would be another incentive for Russia to expand the war.. weak and inept is what started that war and her presidency will be a continuation of the same..

You're the one who brought up 9/11 and implied that it was Democrats that were to blame for it, even though it was Bush in charge, and who ignored the warnings from his intelligence services in the months before. But, sure, go ahead and change your tune saying "it doesn't matter."

I, personally, don't consider the suicide bombing in Afghanistan a Biden failure. Terror attacks in that country are just table stakes. Wasn't the first terrorist bombing in that area by far, and I consider the failure to be how Pompeo "negotiated" (gave up) the withdrawal and then seemingly forgot about the whole thing as Trump was voted out. They made no preparations to get out--leaving it to the next administration. And I'm not surprised that Republicans blamed Biden, just like Republicans blamed 9/11 on Clinton. Anyway, I'm glad we're out of Afghanistan, and now that Biden's no longer on the ballot, we probably won't even have to talk about how Trump sent a drone to kill Soleimani. He didn't declare war, so it doesn't count, right?

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Thu 08/08/24 03:34 PM
Russia To Help Iran Avenge Haniyeh's Assassination?

https://youtu.be/makrZC6cluc?si=l0Nb-n1x7wXOqywI




Russian Weapons Being Send To Iran For Israeli War

https://youtu.be/bRFxERHGXKU?si=YF8xZT5LO38941Dx

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Sun 08/18/24 01:58 AM
Robo dog soldiers.

The dystopian-looking weapons supplied by Britain that Ukraine is now using on battlefield (made in China)

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/the-dystopian-looking-weapons-supplied-by-britain-that-ukraine-is-now-using-on-battlefield/ar-AA1oY6sb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=b9b3f85182144b4e8Roboec8bf1d2fd1125e&ei=53

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Sun 08/18/24 10:00 AM

Interesting...227 views and no one mention if they have food and or essentials stock up.


I haven't made any preparations...

I put my faith in God and His guidance.

Which is more than I can expect from any government