he or you should've said, check this book out. again, your still assuming I knew that was a book and I knew who that dude was. could been some news paper editor or something idk. and it wasn't what you said but anyway no worries, I explained it 3 different ways now. but let's just agree to disagree.

I agree with you half way. on the betrayal part, because obviously we all been betrayed by different people for different things in different ways. you can have a meaning, "opinion" that's not a fact or the definition in this case. that was my hole point in my original post. people use that word and don't know the definition if you will and therefore, they use it falsely.

just because your interpretation or meaning, for example, the sky is red. I understand thats what their meaning of it is. however, that doesn't change the fact, it's blue.
don't mean anyone thinks that, it's just an analogy.

love doesn’t just refer to romantic love . . But from your post .. I take it that is what you are referring to . Just because societal norms change and our historical view of what constitutes “love” evolves .. does not mean love no longer exists . Marriage is not a guarantee of forever love . For some it is a non binding obligation that can be broken at any time . Divorce is not the end of love .. it is the end of a bonding relationship that failed .

thank you for taking the time to respond. yes, your right, I meant romantically. but I understand especially after a work day, I love firing up the drill, drinking a cold beer and not having care left untill the next morning anyway. I mean, I would think that's just implied but i can't love that like a woman. maybe some can I not saying it can't happen I just mean I as in me only. you go on a couple dates with someone and they say they love you. no they don't. they enjoyed your company because your conversation topics went further than space ships, cartoons or video games. I don't know, for whatever reason it maybe but thats not love. that was more of where I was coming from and I probably should've explained that a little better in the original post.

I understand what you are saying Chris . I think sometimes people are so desperate to be able to say they are In love … perhaps they are more in love with the idea of being in love . I see it a lot on line . Sadly that type of instant love is seldom based on reality and often will mot succeed . Of course there are exceptions . For me enduring romantic love is something that develops overtime .

There is nothing wrong with loving alone time and feeling carefree . Being single has many positives . That may not translate to being single always . Often it is a timing thing that reflects what we value and what our priorities are at a point in time . Just like love ..what we want and feel one day .. can change . Stay open to possibilities regardless of how content you feel at this momemt :-)

you know honestly, I feel what you just said. and yeah, I agree, no rush and I don't have anything against being single and there's nothing wrong with being single because believe me, Id rather be hated for something I am then loved for something I'm not. therefore, I won't, I refuse to just settle. if that means being single, so be it. and yes your right, the hole thing is fragile and can be destroyed faster then built, honestly but thats exactly why people need to understand the difference in the meaning and their interpretation. when building a relationship your doing just that. building a life together. if they want the single thing then don't go that route and stay in the game. just keep it that way and their would've never been a relationship to begin with. when words have no meaning, only interpretation whats left after that? I can't think anything positive but like you said people are desperate and will do and say anything not to be alone because some just can't and don't want to. I'll say it again, I feel that. I appreciate what you said, I didn't really look at it that way.

I think it is important to date and depend on the people you choose because you love yourself. I would add that relationships change when children come into picture. Now the dominant connection is between parent and child. This is when a man or woman's sense of character is tested. Does love exist today? The word is an umbrella term that covers the collection of what people do when they love somebody. The term covers anything constructive AND destructive so it's up to you to define for the person that is hearing it from you. Does she love you? Does she cheat on the men she loves? If she does, you might get cheated on by somebody who loves you. But you can also take it a step further by allowing a standard to define it for you. Many people refer to but rarely use the bible to define love. See 1 Corinthians 13 in it's entirety for context.

Since love is something which is felt within, sure it does.

Love is personal, its an emotionally driven feeling you feel inside.
If you are not feeling it for anyone, anywhere then yes, love may seem to be missing from your world.
But, since it is a personal, emotionally driven feeling, you can never actually feel someone else's love. Just because you can't feel the love they feel doesn't mean it does not exist.

The only thing anyone can do is express the love they feel towards another but this only works if the demonstration is effective and the person receiving the demonstration understands what is being presented and is willing to accept the declaration.
So, in a way, love requires two for it to grow beyond your own inner feelings.

The only place love can really be found is within yourself.

I hear that. thats another good point. because I'm not like a church going person or anything but I believe. I think at least something out there's greater. but anyway, not to get into all that, I probably, well, I do look at like from a biblical perspective. I know some people start forming feelings before others but then, theres people that say things and don't mean a word of it.
yeah, every situation is different and would have to be individually decided. just seems as time goes by, I meet less that believe in, biblical love. NOT traditional but biblical, love. how you feel towards another person. just putting that out there so no one takes that the wrong way.

People certainly can be too quick to throw the word around, but I think some people do know what it means. I think a lot of us have a difficult time allowing ourselves to truly love. We self-sabotage as a self-preservation mechanism. Many people won't allow themselves to feel things very deeply when it comes to romantic love. It definitely helps protect us from pain, but it also prevents us from feeling the euphoria of romantic love. I think that's a big reason why we are always told to work on ourselves--not just so that we can attract a quality partner, but so that we ourselves can be a good partner, and that we can be fully open to having healthy relationships.

Love is dead ;)

I dunno, if you work so much that you don't have any time left to read or watch T.V., maybe those college folk might have the right idea?

Consider the environment where you are getting your samples.
Virtual presence is not the same as actually being there, face to face.
Sadly, 'the phone' has become a substitution for real-life encounters.
In real-life encounters you have many signals which are lost in a virtual encounter. The lil things do add up.
Its really difficult to find any REAL connection without experiencing each other live and in-person.

There are many who hold their inner feelings close and display 'toughness' as a protection defense.
This virtual connection becomes a ruse-play which causes people to be able to lie with ease. Actors make the best liars.

Knowing this, its obvious the only way to find someone worthy of love is to actually meet them face to face and spend unscripted time with them.
You pick one and put yourself in their path.

If you are busy filling your plate with many possibles, you won't have time or the dedication needed to develop a connection with one.

Relationships are personal. Phones, texting and social networking is not. To have and hold a relationship you both have to get personal, intimate, let down those guards, show your honest self.
In today's world, its a very difficult thing for some people to do.
Who can you safely expose the real you to? Who can you trust? Certainly not just anyone.

That is so true. I wouldn't want to have any kids due to the fact that relationships doesn't last long anymore and divorce is up and it's usually the man that get stuck with the tab in the end. It's best to look for yourself and protect your interest including your wallet these days.

I agree with you even though I disagree with you on the other subject but I'll save that for my next post. but I know for certain I purposely hold back feeling so I totally agree with ya. I mean logically if I do it I gotta assume others do but honestly, I didn't really think of it that way untill you mentioned it.

no ma'am, negative. why anyone wants to watch it is beyond me anyway. that's why it's called programming, your paying to program yourself to how they want.
nah, not for me. if I had the time I'd be sewing crops or building something or working on some kind of vehicle, preferably. I don't know. I been asked though, why work when I'm off. I guess because I don't consider it work.

Of course love still exists. But when you think that it's guaranteed to last forever you're on the wrong track.
And love is a 2-way street. In essence the love you feel is something you generate, the same for the other person. But love changes. It can grow or go.
Which of the two occurs in someone depends largely on the other person's behaviour and vibe.

In a healthy lasting relationship both nourish the love that is there. As soon as one doesn't the love will begin to go down the drain and can be totally doused.

People that complain about it going, blaming another and making them responsible, are usually the ones that made it go wrong, then refuse to take responsibility. It's always easier to blame another.

No, true love is extinct. You do not find human hearts, all of which have multiple factories. The girl complains about men, and men complain about women. What kind of love is enough for my lost heart?