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Topic: How do feel biden winning US Pres. of the United States
Bastet127's photo
Wed 12/02/20 01:27 AM


Defending Mr. Trump and believing everything he says is truth,
when that’s not always true, are two different things.


Sorry Miss, message was to cool down the over zeal of an American patriot.

Here's my view - if you have the time.
While Indian government does not agree with Trump's sanctions on Iran - a covert move to boost American oil under the cover of 'defense of Israel' we, like Europe and others have no choice in the matter but to obey. Yet, in the overall scheme of things, it has chilled Muslim extremism the like of which we have not seen before.

Am I defending Trump? Yes, his foreign policies have worked. I don't track on what he Tweets - except during the debates & campaigns. - Mainly it's around his policies - not public behavior.

Example:
US soldiers leaving Afghanistan and Syria was unthinkable in 2016 - and although Pakistan's military establishment and Turkey have territorial ambitions in these regions; Middle East has chilled!!!

As an Indian, with all the great economic impact of raising oil prices (low now due to Covid) who can deny Trump, this?

===

The case for Trump - his sanctions need to be viewed against the backdrop of US vis-a-vis world history - American led wars cannot be washed away.

Korean war: 5 million Koreans dead / 40,000 US soldiers
(4 million civilians)

I understand, this war was a bungle up.
US Congress had not approved this war and Truman relieved the once popular general
There's a deep lesson here. General MacArthur was undoubtedly a patriot but something tilted his balance of mind. The lesson gives me the reason not to respect army men beyond a point, whether US, Russian, Chinese or even Indian. They are 'paid with benefits' to do a job. No more, or no less. If you don't like to wear the uniform, get out. (Sounding like Trump, anti-patriotic, maybe)

Vietnam - 3 million Vietnamese dead / 16,000 US soldiers
(10% of Vietnam's population)
US military records conceal villages bombed and civilians dead.

Iraq - 2nd war: 7000 Iraqi civilians - luckily Iraq surrendered but there government structure totally destroyed

This war was a personal vendetta of President G Bush Jr. because of suspected assassination attempt on Bush Sr. or because he was completing unfinished business. (It's an open secret).

Afghan War - 14,000 civilians dead - long after the Soviets had withdrawn
-----

Yet, all these wars became bygone when your President Trump met Putin. The world changed 'bigly' over that handshake and in these 4 years. The Middle East, the Chinese, NK and even the European Union. Partly because Russia respected Trump - and yet big man Trump refused to lift sanctions on Russia. Instead imposed on Iran & Tariffs on China.

With his aggressive style and insane tweets - Trump defused many situations.

My regret is Trump did not complete what he started. Renegotiate with Iran. And maybe with Russia ...

====

As far as Biden's foreign policies, I'm waiting till he sits on the hot seat. Frankly, I have no interests to trash an elderly man based on alleged personal misdemeanor in his past, because some vindictive news reporter carries stories that sound 'credible'.

Best wishes.




Trump referred to himself as a wartime president back in March, yet you make no
mention of the quarter of a million people who have died in the deadliest pandemic
war (Trump’s choice of words) in American history. His approach has been to
ignore infectious disease experts and pass responsibility off to the state’s, all the
while chastising them for their handling of the horrible situation.

It could be argued that Trump’s unilateral approach to foreign policy has undermined
and damaged our network of alliances. And in doing so, has made the U.S.’s position
in the world much weaker. He operates more on grudges than diplomacy.



jaish's photo
Wed 12/02/20 06:43 AM

Trump referred to himself as a wartime president back in March, yet you make no
mention of the quarter of a million people who have died in the deadliest pandemic
war (Trump’s choice of words) in American history. His approach has been to
ignore infectious disease experts and pass responsibility off to the state’s, all the
while chastising them for their handling of the horrible situation.


:thumbsup:



bobtail76's photo
Wed 12/02/20 06:39 PM


Defending Mr. Trump and believing everything he says is truth,
when that’s not always true, are two different things.


Sorry Miss, message was to cool down the over zeal of an American patriot.

Here's my view - if you have the time.
While Indian government does not agree with Trump's sanctions on Iran - a covert move to boost American oil under the cover of 'defense of Israel' we, like Europe and others have no choice in the matter but to obey. Yet, in the overall scheme of things, it has chilled Muslim extremism the like of which we have not seen before.

Am I defending Trump? Yes, his foreign policies have worked. I don't track on what he Tweets - except during the debates & campaigns. - Mainly it's around his policies - not public behavior.

Example:
US soldiers leaving Afghanistan and Syria was unthinkable in 2016 - and although Pakistan's military establishment and Turkey have territorial ambitions in these regions; Middle East has chilled!!!

As an Indian, with all the great economic impact of raising oil prices (low now due to Covid) who can deny Trump, this?

===

The case for Trump - his sanctions need to be viewed against the backdrop of US vis-a-vis world history - American led wars cannot be washed away.

Korean war: 5 million Koreans dead / 40,000 US soldiers
(4 million civilians)

I understand, this war was a bungle up.
US Congress had not approved this war and Truman relieved the once popular general
There's a deep lesson here. General MacArthur was undoubtedly a patriot but something tilted his balance of mind. The lesson gives me the reason not to respect army men beyond a point, whether US, Russian, Chinese or even Indian. They are 'paid with benefits' to do a job. No more, or no less. If you don't like to wear the uniform, get out. (Sounding like Trump, anti-patriotic, maybe)

Vietnam - 3 million Vietnamese dead / 16,000 US soldiers
(10% of Vietnam's population)
US military records conceal villages bombed and civilians dead.

Iraq - 2nd war: 7000 Iraqi civilians - luckily Iraq surrendered but there government structure totally destroyed

This war was a personal vendetta of President G Bush Jr. because of suspected assassination attempt on Bush Sr. or because he was completing unfinished business. (It's an open secret).

Afghan War - 14,000 civilians dead - long after the Soviets had withdrawn
-----

Yet, all these wars became bygone when your President Trump met Putin. The world changed 'bigly' over that handshake and in these 4 years. The Middle East, the Chinese, NK and even the European Union. Partly because Russia respected Trump - and yet big man Trump refused to lift sanctions on Russia. Instead imposed on Iran & Tariffs on China.

With his aggressive style and insane tweets - Trump defused many situations.

My regret is Trump did not complete what he started. Renegotiate with Iran. And maybe with Russia ...

====

As far as Biden's foreign policies, I'm waiting till he sits on the hot seat. Frankly, I have no interests to trash an elderly man based on alleged personal misdemeanor in his past, because some vindictive news reporter carries stories that sound 'credible'.

Best wishes.





So you're basing your lack of respect for the men and women in the army based on what one general did a long time ago? I find that not only unreasonable, but ignorant as well. I hold mad respect for the troops that give the ultimate sacrifice for their country. They can't just "get out of uniform". They carry out missions they don't like, sometimes from a commander in chief they never voted for.

Every man and woman of ANY army deserves the respect they earn just by serving their country - from the cooks to the generals.

no photo
Wed 12/02/20 11:29 PM
I agree Bobtail. Any person who chooses to be a protector of their nation and faces the ultimate sacrifice, (death or personal injury) has my respect. It is more than a paid job, there is a sense of honor involved.

no photo
Thu 12/03/20 04:21 AM
I wonder if he means Aryan:thinking:

bobtail76's photo
Thu 12/03/20 05:08 AM
Edited by bobtail76 on Thu 12/03/20 05:18 AM



Defending Mr. Trump and believing everything he says is truth,
when that’s not always true, are two different things.


Sorry Miss, message was to cool down the over zeal of an American patriot.

Here's my view - if you have the time.
While Indian government does not agree with Trump's sanctions on Iran - a covert move to boost American oil under the cover of 'defense of Israel' we, like Europe and others have no choice in the matter but to obey. Yet, in the overall scheme of things, it has chilled Muslim extremism the like of which we have not seen before.

Am I defending Trump? Yes, his foreign policies have worked. I don't track on what he Tweets - except during the debates & campaigns. - Mainly it's around his policies - not public behavior.

Example:
US soldiers leaving Afghanistan and Syria was unthinkable in 2016 - and although Pakistan's military establishment and Turkey have territorial ambitions in these regions; Middle East has chilled!!!

As an Indian, with all the great economic impact of raising oil prices (low now due to Covid) who can deny Trump, this?

===

The case for Trump - his sanctions need to be viewed against the backdrop of US vis-a-vis world history - American led wars cannot be washed away.

Korean war: 5 million Koreans dead / 40,000 US soldiers
(4 million civilians)

I understand, this war was a bungle up.
US Congress had not approved this war and Truman relieved the once popular general
There's a deep lesson here. General MacArthur was undoubtedly a patriot but something tilted his balance of mind. The lesson gives me the reason not to respect army men beyond a point, whether US, Russian, Chinese or even Indian. They are 'paid with benefits' to do a job. No more, or no less. If you don't like to wear the uniform, get out. (Sounding like Trump, anti-patriotic, maybe)

Vietnam - 3 million Vietnamese dead / 16,000 US soldiers
(10% of Vietnam's population)
US military records conceal villages bombed and civilians dead.

Iraq - 2nd war: 7000 Iraqi civilians - luckily Iraq surrendered but there government structure totally destroyed

This war was a personal vendetta of President G Bush Jr. because of suspected assassination attempt on Bush Sr. or because he was completing unfinished business. (It's an open secret).

Afghan War - 14,000 civilians dead - long after the Soviets had withdrawn
-----

Yet, all these wars became bygone when your President Trump met Putin. The world changed 'bigly' over that handshake and in these 4 years. The Middle East, the Chinese, NK and even the European Union. Partly because Russia respected Trump - and yet big man Trump refused to lift sanctions on Russia. Instead imposed on Iran & Tariffs on China.

With his aggressive style and insane tweets - Trump defused many situations.

My regret is Trump did not complete what he started. Renegotiate with Iran. And maybe with Russia ...

====

As far as Biden's foreign policies, I'm waiting till he sits on the hot seat. Frankly, I have no interests to trash an elderly man based on alleged personal misdemeanor in his past, because some vindictive news reporter carries stories that sound 'credible'.

Best wishes.




Trump referred to himself as a wartime president back in March, yet you make no
mention of the quarter of a million people who have died in the deadliest pandemic
war (Trump’s choice of words) in American history. His approach has been to
ignore infectious disease experts and pass responsibility off to the state’s, all the
while chastising them for their handling of the horrible situation.

It could be argued that Trump’s unilateral approach to foreign policy has undermined
and damaged our network of alliances. And in doing so, has made the U.S.’s position
in the world much weaker. He operates more on grudges than diplomacy.





So you're blaming the pandemic deaths on Trump because he gave the authority to the states? Cuomo locks up coronavirus patients in a nursing home, and that's Trump's fault......... Riiiiight.

I think he left it out because it has nothing to do with the situation at hand.

no photo
Thu 12/03/20 05:45 AM
Edited by The Wrong Alice on Thu 12/03/20 05:45 AM
Well in fairness he would've jabbed us all up with disinfectant, and then didn't even have the balls to say, my God I'm an idiot for saying that, and instead said, your all idiots for not realizing that I'd made a hilarious joke. So I feel it's fair to say, that he doesn't know his arse from his elbow and is just a bullsh1t artist, and not even a good bullsh1t artist

Bastet127's photo
Thu 12/03/20 06:04 AM




Defending Mr. Trump and believing everything he says is truth,
when that’s not always true, are two different things.


Sorry Miss, message was to cool down the over zeal of an American patriot.

Here's my view - if you have the time.
While Indian government does not agree with Trump's sanctions on Iran - a covert move to boost American oil under the cover of 'defense of Israel' we, like Europe and others have no choice in the matter but to obey. Yet, in the overall scheme of things, it has chilled Muslim extremism the like of which we have not seen before.

Am I defending Trump? Yes, his foreign policies have worked. I don't track on what he Tweets - except during the debates & campaigns. - Mainly it's around his policies - not public behavior.

Example:
US soldiers leaving Afghanistan and Syria was unthinkable in 2016 - and although Pakistan's military establishment and Turkey have territorial ambitions in these regions; Middle East has chilled!!!

As an Indian, with all the great economic impact of raising oil prices (low now due to Covid) who can deny Trump, this?

===

The case for Trump - his sanctions need to be viewed against the backdrop of US vis-a-vis world history - American led wars cannot be washed away.

Korean war: 5 million Koreans dead / 40,000 US soldiers
(4 million civilians)

I understand, this war was a bungle up.
US Congress had not approved this war and Truman relieved the once popular general
There's a deep lesson here. General MacArthur was undoubtedly a patriot but something tilted his balance of mind. The lesson gives me the reason not to respect army men beyond a point, whether US, Russian, Chinese or even Indian. They are 'paid with benefits' to do a job. No more, or no less. If you don't like to wear the uniform, get out. (Sounding like Trump, anti-patriotic, maybe)

Vietnam - 3 million Vietnamese dead / 16,000 US soldiers
(10% of Vietnam's population)
US military records conceal villages bombed and civilians dead.

Iraq - 2nd war: 7000 Iraqi civilians - luckily Iraq surrendered but there government structure totally destroyed

This war was a personal vendetta of President G Bush Jr. because of suspected assassination attempt on Bush Sr. or because he was completing unfinished business. (It's an open secret).

Afghan War - 14,000 civilians dead - long after the Soviets had withdrawn
-----

Yet, all these wars became bygone when your President Trump met Putin. The world changed 'bigly' over that handshake and in these 4 years. The Middle East, the Chinese, NK and even the European Union. Partly because Russia respected Trump - and yet big man Trump refused to lift sanctions on Russia. Instead imposed on Iran & Tariffs on China.

With his aggressive style and insane tweets - Trump defused many situations.

My regret is Trump did not complete what he started. Renegotiate with Iran. And maybe with Russia ...

====

As far as Biden's foreign policies, I'm waiting till he sits on the hot seat. Frankly, I have no interests to trash an elderly man based on alleged personal misdemeanor in his past, because some vindictive news reporter carries stories that sound 'credible'.

Best wishes.




Trump referred to himself as a wartime president back in March, yet you make no
mention of the quarter of a million people who have died in the deadliest pandemic
war (Trump’s choice of words) in American history. His approach has been to
ignore infectious disease experts and pass responsibility off to the state’s, all the
while chastising them for their handling of the horrible situation.

It could be argued that Trump’s unilateral approach to foreign policy has undermined
and damaged our network of alliances. And in doing so, has made the U.S.’s position
in the world much weaker. He operates more on grudges than diplomacy.





So you're blaming the pandemic deaths on Trump because he gave the authority to the states? Cuomo locks up coronavirus patients in a nursing home, and that's Trump's fault......... Riiiiight.

I think he left it out because it has nothing to do with the situation at hand.


Yet again that’s not what I said. It has everything to do with the situation at hand when
discussing the world being a safer place.

ivegotthegirth's photo
Thu 12/03/20 12:16 PM

Well in fairness he would've jabbed us all up with disinfectant, and then didn't even have the balls to say, my God I'm an idiot for saying that, and instead said, your all idiots for not realizing that I'd made a hilarious joke. So I feel it's fair to say, that he doesn't know his arse from his elbow and is just a bullsh1t artist, and not even a good bullsh1t artist


No he's not good but that's all he's known his entire life. He loves to say how smart he is but it doesn't take much research to find his grade transcripts and of course he paid someone with a brain to take the SATs for him. What's really entertaining is to read what psychologists have to say about his IQ and mental disorders. He's lied his way through life backed by daddy's money and screwed countless people with his 4 or is it 5 bankruptcies.
He and his idiot children know the end is near and are very worried about being prosecuted after he gets thrown out.

Bastet, with the few remaining Trump rats that haven't jumped the sinking ship yet remember there always has to be a spin on everything. pitchfork

bobtail76's photo
Thu 12/03/20 01:17 PM
The world was pretty safe the last 4 years. With all those peace deals Trump seemed to broker, why wouldn’t it be?

Bastet127's photo
Thu 12/03/20 02:12 PM

The world was pretty safe the last 4 years. With all those peace deals Trump seemed to broker, why wouldn’t it be?


See that’s the trump affect. Things are never as he touts.

Rock's photo
Thu 12/03/20 04:19 PM

How do feel biden winning US Pres. of the United States?


The Vaseline fart heard 'round the world.
Seems to have rallied the spirits of the
corrupt, and of the mentally ill.

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Thu 12/03/20 04:37 PM


How do feel biden winning US Pres. of the United States?


The Vaseline fart heard 'round the world.
Seems to have rallied the spirits of the
corrupt, and of the mentally ill.


Hi Rock, can you translate that to what I can understand please? Are you saying Biden is gay/or he has bent over for politics, and you have to be corrupt or mentally ill to be pleased he is in and Trump is out?

bobtail76's photo
Thu 12/03/20 07:18 PM
laugh

Nice, Rock!

no photo
Thu 12/03/20 10:35 PM

laugh

Nice, Rock!


???? I guess you both speak the same language. Trashing the mentally ill is ok with you both. :thumbsdown:

no photo
Thu 12/03/20 11:21 PM
Well Trump is corrupt, and I think he'd pass the psychopath test with flying colors, well, I say pass, meaning he is 1, and apparently that's a sort of corporate okay mentally Ill or something. Personally I'd just say he was morally bankrupt and a complete bellend. But I guess it's all a matter of perspective and we're all entitled to our opinion

bobtail76's photo
Fri 12/04/20 05:13 AM


laugh

Nice, Rock!


???? I guess you both speak the same language. Trashing the mentally ill is ok with you both. :thumbsdown:


It's not about trashing the mentally ill... It's about a hyperbolic comparison at the same time, not conceiting to PC culture. Have a happy friday waving

bobtail76's photo
Fri 12/04/20 05:18 AM
.....or did you mean that all mentally ill being democrats? Because that WOULD be insulting - and that, I will apologize for
winking

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Fri 12/04/20 08:38 AM

Well Trump is corrupt, and I think he'd pass the psychopath test with flying colors, well, I say pass, meaning he is 1, and apparently that's a sort of corporate okay mentally Ill or something. Personally I'd just say he was morally bankrupt and a complete bellend. But I guess it's all a matter of perspective and we're all entitled to our opinion


Yeah, I just get annoyed with the redneck behaviour that seems to be tolerated. But I try to remind myself that those on the lower half of the IQ scale are people too.

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Fri 12/04/20 11:14 AM
They the dems will be exposed
But they have already claimed victory falsely they’re not gonna give up their power we rightly American people will have to take it back. American cleansing coming. Be ready

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