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Topic: Is there true healing after narcissist?
SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 12/16/19 08:26 AM

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder

Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Needs constant praise and admiration. ...
Sense of entitlement. ...
Exploits others without guilt or shame. ...
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.


When you meet new people, be sure to discern the difference between someone with a narcissistic personality from someone who has a high level of competency and self confidence. In some ways, they will appear to be one and the same when they are actually very different.

That are a few signs, there's many more, and when it concerns a partner there's different ones too. So in that sense these are the tip of the iceberg.

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Mon 12/16/19 09:49 AM



For a person to be easily manipulated they must have a poor self image and a lack of self confidence. This generally goes back to their childhood and teenage years. By the time you become an adult and are ready to enter in a relationship you should have established who you are and what your value or worth is. It is not the fault of the person you got into a poor relationship with but your failure to be the strong, confident person to deal with them. Now as an adult, you need to learn about who you are that you should have learned as a teenager.




By time I was a teenager, I had learned that my opinion didn't matter, that nothing I did would ever be good enough, that the world would be better off without me, that I better keep my mouth shut if I didn't want to be beaten, and that no man would ever want me for anything other than sex. These are things I learned from my father.




This was exactly what I said!!!!! These are not the attitudes a healthy person should ever have!!!!!! You should have been having experiences in life that developed just the opposite belief about yourself. And yes, your father taught you wrong.


Thank you!

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 12/16/19 10:06 AM

For a person to be easily manipulated they must have a poor self image and a lack of self confidence. This generally goes back to their childhood and teenage years. By the time you become an adult and are ready to enter in a relationship you should have established who you are and what your value or worth is. It is not the fault of the person you got into a poor relationship with but your failure to be the strong, confident person to deal with them. Now as an adult, you need to learn about who you are that you should have learned as a teenager.

I have not said it yet here I think, but from my own experience and from what I've gathered from the many women I've talked to about this, it is as you say: you should've learnt these things when young but for some reason didn't.
That is not always your own doing, sometimes it is impossible to learn it sooner.

But personally I feel that a narcissist gives you the lesson in such a hard way that you cannot ignore it anymore. You HAVE to learn to swim, OR drown. So there's still a choice.

But I do feel that they bring a lesson you were served many times before but refused to learn because of being afraid or whatever.

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Mon 12/16/19 10:16 AM
In a way I see most of the people I encounter as narcissistic.
They can be timid in some ways with some people but the second face shows with others.
People also tend to be manipulative.
It tends to be reinforced in media and advertising.

I grew up with narcissists, married a narcissist, worked for narcissists and finally woke up and found my own worth after planning my suicide.
I no longer cower away from narcissistic characters.
If anything, they make me slightly angry.
To keep from going to jail, I ignore them now. I put them out of my life and never look back. I just walk away or ignore. But then, I have the freedom to do that because I no longer work.

I think what has helped me the most to give me peace of mind was realizing its my life. I no longer feel compelled to live my life according to someone else.
My contentment is no longer subject to other's approval.

I try to live in the moment. I am in control of my own feelings.
Its a matter of self-honesty and practice.
I'm not reactive, defensive or subjugated.

What I find funny is the fact that I scare the narcissists in my family now.
They have no control over me or my feelings and it actually scares them.
Those buttons they used to push no longer work.

The fist step is to realize they are being narcissistic to you.
The next step is to realize nobody lives behind your eyes but you
so nobody has authority over your life but you.
At first it can make you angry.
Then only slightly angry (where I am now).
It could amuse you eventually.
Ultimately it will have no effect on your contentment at all.

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Mon 12/16/19 01:19 PM
hello mummy

Ladywind7's photo
Mon 12/16/19 02:15 PM

In a way I see most of the people I encounter as narcissistic.
They can be timid in some ways with some people but the second face shows with others.
People also tend to be manipulative.
It tends to be reinforced in media and advertising.

I grew up with narcissists, married a narcissist, worked for narcissists and finally woke up and found my own worth after planning my suicide.
I no longer cower away from narcissistic characters.
If anything, they make me slightly angry.
To keep from going to jail, I ignore them now. I put them out of my life and never look back. I just walk away or ignore. But then, I have the freedom to do that because I no longer work.

I think what has helped me the most to give me peace of mind was realizing its my life. I no longer feel compelled to live my life according to someone else.
My contentment is no longer subject to other's approval.

I try to live in the moment. I am in control of my own feelings.
Its a matter of self-honesty and practice.
I'm not reactive, defensive or subjugated.

What I find funny is the fact that I scare the narcissists in my family now.
They have no control over me or my feelings and it actually scares them.
Those buttons they used to push no longer work.

The fist step is to realize they are being narcissistic to you.
The next step is to realize nobody lives behind your eyes but you
so nobody has authority over your life but you.
At first it can make you angry.
Then only slightly angry (where I am now).
It could amuse you eventually.
Ultimately it will have no effect on your contentment at all.



Well said. And yes narc's can be women too.

Ladywind7's photo
Mon 12/16/19 02:26 PM
Edited by Ladywind7 on Mon 12/16/19 02:28 PM
I really do not agree with any blaming of the Narc's victim in this thread.
People can be naive and uninformed. A bad relationship that you are in takes time to process and analyze.
Narc's do not start off horrible, they usually act like everything you want for a while, they are charming, act devoted and actually cater their personality to fit yours. Then when you are already committed and snared by marriage or living together, the Narc reintroduces himself/herself to you.You are in shock as it happens little by little. You have friends together, but they only act nasty when you are alone with them.
They gaslight too, which is another topic.

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Tue 12/17/19 11:07 AM
Eleanor Roosevelt says it's your fault for allowing it to happen to you. Nobody can make you miserable but yourself she says and I agree .

Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 12/17/19 11:19 AM

Eleanor Roosevelt says it's your fault for allowing it to happen to you. Nobody can make you miserable but yourself she says and I agree .

This is true
:thumbsup:

That isn't the issue tho.
What happens is the narcissist wears you down little by little over time.
Chips away at your self-esteem till its raw and sore.
If you get away from it, you can heal but like any raw sore wound it gets covered with tougher scar tissue.
Forever changed
sad2

Ladywind7's photo
Tue 12/17/19 02:53 PM
Edited by Ladywind7 on Tue 12/17/19 02:55 PM

Eleanor Roosevelt says it's your fault for allowing it to happen to you. Nobody can make you miserable but yourself she says and I agree .


I believe her words were "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent".

You have misconstrued her words.

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Tue 12/17/19 02:58 PM
Narcissist..... "HULK SMASH!!!!!"

(narcissist flattened completely)

Hulk walking away, then looks back over shoulder....."puny Narcissist".

Ladywind7's photo
Tue 12/17/19 03:03 PM

Narcissist..... "HULK SMASH!!!!!"

(narcissist flattened completely)

Hulk walking away, then looks back over shoulder....."puny Narcissist".


Women can be Narc's too. Hulk would be done for assault. slaphead

darkowl1's photo
Tue 12/17/19 03:59 PM
Correct...... But!laugh He would call She-hulk. drinker

Ladywind7's photo
Tue 12/17/19 04:06 PM

Correct...... But!laugh He would call She-hulk. drinker


Brilliant laugh

darkowl1's photo
Tue 12/17/19 04:08 PM
flowerforyou drinker

Thankya thankya!

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Tue 12/17/19 07:36 PM


Both my kids dad and my husband told me how lucky I was to have them. Their reasoning was because I was so ugly. The only reason a man would be with me was to use me. I have a hard time looking in the mirror sometimes.

Nobody with such a beautiful smile and obvious warmth as yourself could ever be thought of as "ugly".

Thank you

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Tue 12/17/19 07:41 PM



Both my kids dad and my husband told me how lucky I was to have them. Their reasoning was because I was so ugly. The only reason a man would be with me was to use me. I have a hard time looking in the mirror sometimes.

Nobody with such a beautiful smile and obvious warmth as yourself could ever be thought of as "ugly".


yea I agree m8 She's lovely :)

Thank you

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