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oldkid46's photo
Sat 05/02/20 04:55 PM



I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!


so you're justifying it and condoning it?
do you also support it, or should we endeavor to be better?

also, could you elucidate us with actual names and whatever transgressions you're referring to?
I'm not justifying it or condoning it only pointing it out. IF we ever want government to do better, we must do better as the electorate to choose competent decision makers. I won't accuse any of fraud as that determination is usually based on a difference of beliefs or priorities. I will say the incompetence is rampant and revolves around the inability to reform or correct the multitude of failures within the federal bureaucracy. It seems that every administration has had failures by the federal workforce. Congress does not help and none of them have really dealt with the problem. I can look back and think of the "weapons of mass destruction", several botched military rescue missions, Hurricane Katrina, ACA roll out, and now the Covid testing. I'm sure there are many more I'm just not thinking of at the moment. There appears to be no job performance standards or evaluations along with a lax career management team more interested in protecting their turf than doing the taxpayer's work! Until Congress changes the working rules and management structure, changing administrations and appointed political appointees will not fix the underlying bureaucratic rot!!

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/02/20 10:43 PM


I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!



I disagree. I have not seen the trend of fraud, incompetence, or unprofessional demeanor in my fifty years on this Earth in the White House. Even with those I did not agree with, they were professional in their demeanor and not completely incompetent in the position.

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/02/20 10:48 PM








In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



oldkid46's photo
Sun 05/03/20 06:57 AM



I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!



I disagree. I have not seen the trend of fraud, incompetence, or unprofessional demeanor in my fifty years on this Earth in the White House. Even with those I did not agree with, they were professional in their demeanor and not completely incompetent in the position.
Therein lies the difference between government and private enterprise. The many failures we have seen within the government would result in job loss or demotion had they been in private industry. How many do you think in the CDC or FDA will face disciplinary action for the corona virus testing failures? How many where terminated over the botched roll out of the ACA website? I bet the answer is 0!!!

oldkid46's photo
Sun 05/03/20 07:14 AM









In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 07:23 AM










In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


notbeold's photo
Sun 05/03/20 07:43 AM

"Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!! "

Politics - polemic - partisan.

Yes unfortunately modern politics is a contest if irrelevant popularity rather than anything else. It attracts a certain type of ego maniac sociopath who craves attention.
So many smart people know they could make a difference as leaders, but the media circus, and shock jocks, internet beatups, and lobby groups would be such a pain to deal with, and their lives would never be the same, or private, again. Why do it unless you like those combative interactions with media, and stakeholders, and oppositions.
Thus the types of "leaders" left from which we are allowed to 'elect'.
Legitimate business people. And part of bloodlines.
Cowboy actors.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 07:48 AM


"Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!! "

Politics - polemic - partisan.

Yes unfortunately modern politics is a contest if irrelevant popularity rather than anything else. It attracts a certain type of ego maniac sociopath who craves attention.
So many smart people know they could make a difference as leaders, but the media circus, and shock jocks, internet beatups, and lobby groups would be such a pain to deal with, and their lives would never be the same, or private, again. Why do it unless you like those combative interactions with media, and stakeholders, and oppositions.
Thus the types of "leaders" left from which we are allowed to 'elect'.
Legitimate business people. And part of bloodlines.
Cowboy actors.



I do not think one has to like everything about a job to accept it.

Soldiers do not necessarily like war or being shot at, but they know someone has to do those things and the sacrifice is worth it for them.

Same is true, IMHO, for politicians, who take jobs in high spotlight and scrutiny that are worth it for the position that can make differences in the lives of others, because it has to be done.


oldkid46's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:52 AM











In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 10:11 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/03/20 10:12 AM












In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.



Why is it not a qualification? It is a high qualification, to me, to manage that which you have experience doing, not that a POTUS is the same as a manager, since the government nor the states are business entities.



oldkid46's photo
Sun 05/03/20 10:29 AM













In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.



Why is it not a qualification? It is a high qualification, to me, to manage that which you have experience doing, not that a POTUS is the same as a manager, since the government nor the states are business entities.



There is a huge difference between doing a task you know how to do and managing other people doing something. If you know how to do something well, you are qualified to teach others how to do the task and to judge their ability to perform that task. You are not qualified to provide motivation for them or solve the many other obstacles that may be hindering their performance. It is like saying I have a total recall of American History, therefore I am qualified to be a teacher when I don't know anything about teaching. Most politicians know very little about managing an organization the size of the federal government; most even fail at managing a state or local government! Give me an accomplished manager over a politician any day! I believe the democratic party had only 1 POTUS candidate who had an accomplished management background.

no photo
Sun 05/03/20 12:39 PM
You should all take a deep breath, hold your nose and reconcile yourselves to another four years of President Trump. After that, he'll be gone and you can elect someone else.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:48 PM




I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!



I disagree. I have not seen the trend of fraud, incompetence, or unprofessional demeanor in my fifty years on this Earth in the White House. Even with those I did not agree with, they were professional in their demeanor and not completely incompetent in the position.
Therein lies the difference between government and private enterprise. The many failures we have seen within the government would result in job loss or demotion had they been in private industry. How many do you think in the CDC or FDA will face disciplinary action for the corona virus testing failures? How many where terminated over the botched roll out of the ACA website? I bet the answer is 0!!!



ACA website was contracted to 'private' entities. People are people, political or civilian, and some mistakes will be made because none are perfect. Yet, perfect is the other EXTREME from total incompetence. And I would not want someone in any position that admits to just talking out the side of their neck when they do not know something, and then proceeds to constantly claim they know everything.



msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:48 PM




I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!



I disagree. I have not seen the trend of fraud, incompetence, or unprofessional demeanor in my fifty years on this Earth in the White House. Even with those I did not agree with, they were professional in their demeanor and not completely incompetent in the position.
Therein lies the difference between government and private enterprise. The many failures we have seen within the government would result in job loss or demotion had they been in private industry. How many do you think in the CDC or FDA will face disciplinary action for the corona virus testing failures? How many where terminated over the botched roll out of the ACA website? I bet the answer is 0!!!



ACA website was contracted to 'private' entities. People are people, political or civilian, and some mistakes will be made because none are perfect. Yet, perfect is the other EXTREME from total incompetence. And I would not want someone in any position that admits to just talking out the side of their neck when they do not know something, and then proceeds to constantly claim they know everything.



msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:52 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/03/20 10:02 PM














In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.



Why is it not a qualification? It is a high qualification, to me, to manage that which you have experience doing, not that a POTUS is the same as a manager, since the government nor the states are business entities.



There is a huge difference between doing a task you know how to do and managing other people doing something. If you know how to do something well, you are qualified to teach others how to do the task and to judge their ability to perform that task. You are not qualified to provide motivation for them or solve the many other obstacles that may be hindering their performance. It is like saying I have a total recall of American History, therefore I am qualified to be a teacher when I don't know anything about teaching. Most politicians know very little about managing an organization the size of the federal government; most even fail at managing a state or local government! Give me an accomplished manager over a politician any day! I believe the democratic party had only 1 POTUS candidate who had an accomplished management background.


SO, where do teachers come from when they START teaching? The analogy is misplaced because history teacher would be within the 'educational' industry, not the 'history' industry. The analogy escapes me. Again POTUS Is not the manager of the government or the people. The government is a structure WITHIN which a POTUS Must do their OWN PART. They do not manage the other politicians. THey do not manage the citizens.

For this reason, knowledge of their 'constitutional duties' within that framework, (in this case, no framework existed beyond the limits of his daddy's or his own pockets for him to learn how to do that) not the private framework, is important. And experience within that framework is the best way to gain that knowledge.That should not be 'starting' knowledge, IMHO.

The lower political offices is where experience should be acquired before EVER reaching the WHITE HOUSE.





msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:52 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/03/20 09:54 PM














In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.



Why is it not a qualification? It is a high qualification, to me, to manage that which you have experience doing, not that a POTUS is the same as a manager, since the government nor the states are business entities.



There is a huge difference between doing a task you know how to do and managing other people doing something. If you know how to do something well, you are qualified to teach others how to do the task and to judge their ability to perform that task. You are not qualified to provide motivation for them or solve the many other obstacles that may be hindering their performance. It is like saying I have a total recall of American History, therefore I am qualified to be a teacher when I don't know anything about teaching. Most politicians know very little about managing an organization the size of the federal government; most even fail at managing a state or local government! Give me an accomplished manager over a politician any day! I believe the democratic party had only 1 POTUS candidate who had an accomplished management background.


SO, where do teachers come from when they START teaching? The analogy escapes me. Again POTUS Is not the manager of the government or the people. The government is a structure WITHIN which a POTUS Must do their OWN PART. They do not manage the other politicians. THey do not manage the citizens.

For this reason, knowledge of their 'constitutional duties' within that framework, not the private framework, is important. And experience within that framework is the best way to gain that knowledge.That should not be 'starting' knowledge, IMHO.

The lower political offices is where experience should be acquired before EVER reaching the WHITE HOUSE.

I also do not agree our current POTUS has ever been a person that 'managed' anything. Running around bullying with authority is not the same as 'managing'. Having the money to buy things is not the same as 'managing' them.






msharmony's photo
Sun 05/03/20 09:55 PM

You should all take a deep breath, hold your nose and reconcile yourselves to another four years of President Trump. After that, he'll be gone and you can elect someone else.



I hope. He does have a history of fits and bullying though, so maybe he will declare that rule part of the 'swamp' and get his followers to rally behind him to change it.


TonyN's photo
Mon 05/04/20 05:51 AM
There have been some good and bad US Presidents in my lifetime, both Republican and Democrat. I would rate Eisenhower for the best Republican and Obama for the Democrats. For the worst I would have to say LBJ for the Vietnam War although he did sign some landmark civil rights legislation into law. On the Republican and worst of all the Presidents, at least in the last 90 years it would have to be Donald J Trump. That's my opinion.

oldkid46's photo
Mon 05/04/20 06:30 AM















In America, he sucks in his leadership of the country.



^^^^^


To the Democrats maybe but Biden is Way worse in leadership of anything!



Biden can listen, that is a first step, being that no person truly knows everything about everything. Biden can disagree without it being personal, which is another big step forward in my book. Biden has not had six bankruptcies in his 'impressive' career following his daddy's footsteps and growing daddy's business with daddyy's name. To me, he is far more of a leader than Trump who seems more like a senile spoiled child used to having those around him kiss his but because of the dollar signs.



If you think he is a great leader, what leadership accomplishments has he had outside the political arena? I have heard of none. I want a leader that has the desire and strength to tackle the mess of the federal government. Biden and Obama had 8 years and I saw no significant accomplishments on the performance of government in that time. There are a number of better leaders than Trump but they are also smart enough to avoid politics so far. Joining the political circus will only result in hatred toward them and a destruction of their legacy. Unfortunately politics is not about leadership but being a highly partisan A-hole!!



the POTUS is in the political arena. The question is like asking why I think a doctor should be over a medical department if he has not done anything outside the medical field.


As for your Doctor example, if all a medical professional knows is medicine he/she is not qualified to be in a position of high management. Same goes for POTUS if all he/she knows is politics.



Why is it not a qualification? It is a high qualification, to me, to manage that which you have experience doing, not that a POTUS is the same as a manager, since the government nor the states are business entities.



There is a huge difference between doing a task you know how to do and managing other people doing something. If you know how to do something well, you are qualified to teach others how to do the task and to judge their ability to perform that task. You are not qualified to provide motivation for them or solve the many other obstacles that may be hindering their performance. It is like saying I have a total recall of American History, therefore I am qualified to be a teacher when I don't know anything about teaching. Most politicians know very little about managing an organization the size of the federal government; most even fail at managing a state or local government! Give me an accomplished manager over a politician any day! I believe the democratic party had only 1 POTUS candidate who had an accomplished management background.


SO, where do teachers come from when they START teaching? The analogy is misplaced because history teacher would be within the 'educational' industry, not the 'history' industry. The analogy escapes me. Again POTUS Is not the manager of the government or the people. The government is a structure WITHIN which a POTUS Must do their OWN PART. They do not manage the other politicians. THey do not manage the citizens.

For this reason, knowledge of their 'constitutional duties' within that framework, (in this case, no framework existed beyond the limits of his daddy's or his own pockets for him to learn how to do that) not the private framework, is important. And experience within that framework is the best way to gain that knowledge.That should not be 'starting' knowledge, IMHO.

The lower political offices is where experience should be acquired before EVER reaching the WHITE HOUSE.





IF POTUS is not the top management person in the federal government, who is? Why then would the administration appoint leadership over each department of the government? This is exactly where the problem is in government - a lack of leadership with authority to resolve the bloated bureaucracy!!

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I would normally agree. But with world leaders, it is a different ballgame. Their position REQUIRES a certain personality, or demeanor, to 'represent' the American people when Networking with leaders around the world. It is as important as the professional demeanor in any other job.

What is especially important is demeanor while in the public eye and carrying out their duties in their position. That, to me, is significant.

I also care about character, in so much as the integrity one shows in carrying out their duties. Most of the time, when someone is caught in a lie on their resume, the hiring officials quickly pass them over. When someone has a resume that shows a lack of competence or experience for the duties, or when they come into an interview behaving in certain manners, they are passed over for more 'professional' candidates.

A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS.


Now, if one goes home and kicks their dog and cheats on their spouse, that is irrelevant to the job. But in any job, demeanor ON the job does absolutely matter. And POTUS has no set work schedule. But certainly, any time they are representing US interests, or addressing US citizens, they are 'on the job', where their demeanor should matter as much as any one else when they go to their job.





"A past trend of fraud and/or incompetence, or an unprofessional demeanor are significant personal flaws that I consider when considering the office of POTUS." With that statement you are describing most people who have ran for POTUS in the last 30 years not to mention a sizable quantity of Congress!



I disagree. I have not seen the trend of fraud, incompetence, or unprofessional demeanor in my fifty years on this Earth in the White House. Even with those I did not agree with, they were professional in their demeanor and not completely incompetent in the position.
Therein lies the difference between government and private enterprise. The many failures we have seen within the government would result in job loss or demotion had they been in private industry. How many do you think in the CDC or FDA will face disciplinary action for the corona virus testing failures? How many where terminated over the botched roll out of the ACA website? I bet the answer is 0!!!



ACA website was contracted to 'private' entities. People are people, political or civilian, and some mistakes will be made because none are perfect. Yet, perfect is the other EXTREME from total incompetence. And I would not want someone in any position that admits to just talking out the side of their neck when they do not know something, and then proceeds to constantly claim they know everything.



It was put out on bids based on the specifications HHS created; probably the lowest bidder was hired. After that, a team from HHS had the responsibility of oversight. If I remember correctly, HHS kept making changes to the requirements throughout the development process.

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