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I read the thread with the same title - pages 39 to 15, and found a couple of the comments by men close to the mark as per this tale; one over the mark - not on the dot. I also read every woman's comment, including Blondey's advise; and I believe they know what they want, may be different things at different times but overall it seems they were hedging or hinting at what is in this tale. Now that. that thread seems to have run its course, here is the fairy tale. --xx-- Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him, but was moved by Arthur's youthful happiness. So he offered him freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer; if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be killed. The Question: What do women really want? Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and, to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. Well, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end. He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: the princess, the priests, the wise men, the court jester. In all, he spoke with everyone but no one could give him a satisfactory answer. What most people did tell him was to consult the old witch, as only she would know the answer. The price would be high, since the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the pound of flesh she charged. The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer his question, but he'd have to accept her price first: The old witch wanted to marry Gawain, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend! Young Arthur as horrified: she was hunchbacked and awfully hideous. He had never run across such a repugnant creature. He refused to force his friend to marry her and have to endure such a burden. Gawain, upon learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He told him that nothing was too big of a sacrifice compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence, their wedding was proclaimed, and the witch answered Arthur's question: What a woman really wants is to be able to be in charge of her own life. ---- ---- ---- Everyone instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it went. The neighboring monarch spared Arthur's life and granted him total freedom. What a wedding Gawain and the witch had! Arthur was torn between relief and anguish. Gawain was proper as always, gentle and courteous. The old witch put her worst manners on display; made everyone uncomfortable. Then the wedding night approached ... |
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It was after this, that squares, and thus square tables, were invented
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It was after this, that squares, and thus square tables, were invented
Continuing ... Gawain, steeling himself for a terrible night, entered the bedroom. First night, like in arranged marriages What a sight awaited! The most beautiful woman he had ever seen lay before him! Gawain was astounded and asked what had happened. Guy must have been plastered - these things are also known to happen The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her (when she'd been a witch), half the time she would be her deformed self, and the other half, she would be her beautiful maiden self. Which would he want her to be during the day and which during the night? What a cruel question! Gawain began to think of his predicament: During the day a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his home, an old spooky witch? Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a beautiful woman to enjoy many intimate moments? What would you do? Yeah, what would you do? I'm sure Mingle ladies are waiting to hear. |
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Get divorced
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Edited by
jaish
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Sun 08/25/19 02:07 AM
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Get divorced In this tale, divorce would be a breach of contract; no Sir, not an option. The choice can be rephrased as: a) sex at night and hiding during the day b) romance during the day, and drinking away to blindness at night (Ladies, please wait, the joke is on us men..) |
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All I want is someone that I can have an honest and trusting relationship with, and no lying, or manipulating.
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All I want is someone that I can have an honest and trusting relationship with, and no lying, or manipulating. That's a very nice way of saying the same thing: What a woman really wants is to be able to be in charge of her own life But you see, the story has advanced beyond this point. In a past thread, there was a concern that in this 'giving and receiving' business men always end up as 'doormats'. (Well, generally) so now for story to continue they have to select whether they prefer a bride who is a 'beauty by day', or 'beauty by night'. |
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Jaish,
You say the joke is, ultimately, on the men? I can't wait to find out more  ,
When you're ready to disclose. |
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We all know the Devil is in the detail, I examined that contract thoroughly
I want a divorce If I can't have it, I'm running away |
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Edited by
jaish
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Sun 08/25/19 05:22 PM
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We all know the Devil is in the detail, I examined that contract thoroughly I want a divorce If I can't have it, I'm running away Why run? We men are selfish. she could wear a 'burqha' during the day. Then the problem at night reduces to unpredictability. Let's say G is having sex with her. He has to be nice. Else, kaboom! Can a man have sex at all, with the most beautiful woman; under such condition? Anytime kaboom! Therefore the second choice appears to have more appeal. She could wear a burqha at night. --xx-- |
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Edited by
jaish
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Sun 08/25/19 08:10 PM
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Jaish, You say the joke is, ultimately, on the men? I can't wait to find out more ,
When you're ready to disclose. Hi Susan, Seems people are more focused on her being a witch. keep forgetting that she saved a king's life, and possibly a war between countries! What a woman. So dear ladies - ask not what you want; but ask ...., 
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Why run?
Well, me old mate Arthur, has landed me in some right old schtuk He made some deal to spare his life which was fair enough, and I'd like to help him, but not really at the expense of my own I do not agree, that all men are selfish Whilst I'm looking forward to the end of this tale I will not engage as what I see as a negative philosophy, or bind. Both choices are wrong. If I can't get divorced or run. Then I will simply not have sex with my wife, therefore fulfilling said contract, and releasing me from it. Not only that, I would tell my wife this, hoping she will understand and forgive me, but fearing that she may not And I would certainly no longer be pals with Arthur, and strongly think about punching him in the face Essentially, he made the deal, not I And might I add, Arthur's life was spared, when he gave the answer Nothing has been mentioned of what said Witch would do, if her price was not paid. So frankly , I would never have married her in the first place |
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Edited by
jaish
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Sun 08/25/19 08:26 PM
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Why run? Well, me old mate Arthur, has landed me in some right old schtuk -- I do not agree, that all men are selfish Whilst I'm looking forward to the end of this tale I will not engage as what I see as a negative philosophy, or bind. Both choices are wrong. ---- Nothing has been mentioned of what said Witch would do, if her price was not paid. So frankly , I would never have married her in the first place Assume, friend, you are already married to her (in this story) A very wise woman So why not share your woes (as the holy book says; granted she knows) Given a similar situation, an American would make a deal. Q is, how would he go about doing that? (clue to this story) |
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Edited by
jaish
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Sun 08/25/19 09:22 PM
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What Gawain chose follows below: ... Noble Gawain replied that he would let her choose for herself! Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had respected her and had let her be in charge of her own life. A silly fairy tale, but it works |
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Jaish, You say the joke is, ultimately, on the men? I can't wait to find out more ,
When you're ready to disclose. Hi Susan, Seems people are more focused on her being a witch. keep forgetting that she saved a king's life, and possibly a war between countries! What a woman. So dear ladies - ask not what you want; but ask ....,
Just don't do it in a forum thread  
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That's a nice tale, I like it
I couldn't let her choose, because I myself hadn't had the ability to choose to be married to her , but neither would I try to deny her choosing. And Blondey you forget, that she essentially forced herself on a man, oh but you might be thinking a little differently, if the sexes were reversed in that story, so did she do, what she did, out of benevolence, or to serve her own desires, a pound of flesh, was mentioned |
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That's a nice tale, I like it I couldn't let her choose, because I myself hadn't had the ability to choose to be married to her , but neither would I try to deny her choosing. And Blondey you forget, that she essentially forced herself on a man, oh but you might be thinking a little differently, if the sexes were reversed in that story, so did she do, what she did, out of benevolence, or to serve her own desires, a pound of flesh, was mentioned
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A great little tale! I wonder though, is she really in control of her own life when she
leaves choices to others? Is she not controlling their life over her own in this story? |
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That's a nice tale, I like it I couldn't let her choose, because I myself hadn't had the ability to choose to be married to her , but neither would I try to deny her choosing. And Blondey you forget, that she essentially forced herself on a man, oh but you might be thinking a little differently, if the sexes were reversed in that story, so did she do, what she did, out of benevolence, or to serve her own desires, a pound of flesh, was mentioned Thanks for playing the White Knight. Sorry if you suffered!
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Edited by
jaish
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Mon 08/26/19 05:57 AM
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A great little tale! I wonder though, is she really in control of her own life when she leaves choices to others? Is she not controlling their life over her own in this story? Let's put it this way. She married him, then on the wedding night gave him the right 'for first refusal'. We all know the white knight is an idiot, but she trusted his heart. In turn, he put her before himself. "You decide". (In my opinion, men generally have similar intentions --- but seems we don't take off the heavy helmet (from work) when we reach home. The role of the foreman continues to preside) My Ex lives in NYC and I've a vague feeling you meant something else. aah! |
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