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Topic: Projections....
Dragoness's photo
Sat 12/15/07 04:31 PM
voil, is this so others can tell you how you fall in their reality or how we perceive that we fall in theirs? Both? None? Am I in the right thread???? Where am I again???? oh hell........................

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 12/15/07 04:54 PM
Fundies splat in my reality like bird$hit on a windshield.

I couldn’t care less how I land in theirs.

I squirt, I wipe, I see again with crystal clear lucidity.

I live in the reality of Dr. Seuss, "Those who matter don’t care, those who care don’t matter."

Que Sara Sara. flowerforyou

T.A.C.T – Temporarily Abandon Critical Thinking.

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/15/07 06:56 PM

Ok someones gotta break the Ice so Ill talk about creative

I think he is a man :wink:

He seems like he is often trying to be the peace keeper. For some reason that leads me to believe that he is comfortable with himself. He doesn't feel the need to brow beat. I get the feeling that he would be easy to talk to in the real world. I think he is right handed and has a strange affinity for Ukulele Music. (that last one may be a stretch)

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 12/15/07 07:26 PM
I think I'll have to sit back and watch this time.

I don't really think I relate to 'poeple' in a way equal to the challenge of this exercise.

The way I percieve others, does not seem to coincide with the 'projections' that are being discussed in this thread. In fact, to be honest, I have a difficult time understanding the very nature of this whole discussion.

People affect me at some base level, I can only describe as instintual. I deal with others based on those instincts. Except for some rare occasions, all the poeple I have ever met, I approach with no feeling (blank slate), totally open to whatever they may be. I know this is how I am, so I have learned to be cautious and take things slowly. If that openness remains after several interactions, I feel comfortable and connected. But if their actions or words stike another of those base instincts, I can only relate to it, by analyzing why that 'feeling' is being touched. A weird sort of logical approach to understanding some part of me, of which I have no control, and feel separated from. After the analysis I proceed accordingly, which is very often not in conjunction with the emotion or feeling.

I don't know if this is even making sense to anyone, just suffice to say that I will be watching and trying to understand.

I feel connected to everyone I have ever posted with here. It seems to me, the only real advantage of our emotions is to avoid calamity or to protect others (come to their aid), or to form a bond that time and circumstance can not break.

The who of everyone, for me, is an analysis, based on how they've touched a primitive emotion.


Abracadabra's photo
Sat 12/15/07 09:35 PM
This is an interesting thread because by forum rules we aren’t allowed to talk about other posters, only about the topics of the threads. So how does that rule come into play when the actual topic of the thread is how the posters project into our reality???

Interesting dilemma.

Almost everyone on the forums lands well in my reality. There are only one or two individuals who seem to seriously clash with me, and those people seem to clash with a whole lot of other people too, so I’m convinced that they do crash-landings in almost everyone’s reality.

I’m with Dianna, I’m not sure if I understand the purpose of the thread.

I can’t even think in terms of Jess, or Sherrie, or Jenni, or DD, or Lauri, or a lot of other people ‘landing’ anywhere. laugh

I see them all floating around like fairies and angles, or topless witches on brooms look’in for mortal men to do naughty naughty things with. I can’t imagine them “landing” anywhere unless there’s a hunky looking man on the runway or an unused unicycle laying around.

To me, they are surrealistic personalities popping in and out of cyberspace like imaginary elves in a bedtime fairytale on cold wintry night bringing warmth and comfort to an otherwise empty barren world.

Voileazur reminds me of the Greek God Zeus. Parting the forum clouds every once in a while to check in on the participants and be sure that everyone is behaving themselves.

Redykeulous strikes me as a combination social-worker/historian/paleontologist who seems to be a bit detached from it all. It’s like she’s putting together a great research paper entitled “Humanity – Conditions as they were, are, and will be; with synopses on the variations of what could have been but never was”.

I often wonder who she will be delivering her final thesis too? Is she working for a higher power? Or is she just an overly curious feline creature?

I agree with Rabbit on the state of CreativeSoul. He seems to be the only genuine philosopher on the forums. Rather than looking for answers he seems to be more interesting in finding new questions. A brilliant mind seeking to devour the infinite knowledge of eternity. It doesn’t seem to bother him in the least that his quest will traverse forever. He seems to intuitively understand that time is neither the tic nor the toc but the ethereal void whose essence is but a shadow of their ever-undulating pulse.

I would comment on Jax and Joanie, but the forum rules prohibit that kind of promiscuity. bigsmile

creativesoul's photo
Sat 12/15/07 09:49 PM
I must say... make love not war!

Thank you for the kind words...

I apologize for my absence since the agreement... I have been swamped kinda busy...laugh

Gotta run...once again... See ya'll in the morrow!

Jess642's photo
Sun 12/16/07 01:25 AM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 12/16/07 01:27 AM

This is more of an anecdote style observation: Jess and I were both participating in a thread once about how to live with the earth/nature rather than destroy it. In effect, we were tip toeing around with our posts trying to be polite and not get anyone riled up or step on any toes, as a lot of the core opinions regarding the subject matter were pretty well known among the participants, i.e. who felt how about what, but lets all brain storm anyway to see if we can find solutions style thread. It was horrendous. The conversation was stilted and stammerish. Jess finally had enough and just stated: "Ya know if we just said what we think and quit trying to be polite and tip toeing around each other this would work a lot better." It did. It would be awesome to be able to be that direct all the time. She has an innate ability of knowing when to just spit it out there and when to gentle what she has to say. Me, I know how to spell tact, but employing it pssshh, not so good.



Hmmmm...I wonder if it is an Aussie-ism.

Being of a different culture, and a completely different upbringing, it's quite possible that may be the cause of appearing 'direct'.

I know when I first moved over to this site, there was a whole new 'language' to learn, a complete new 'dance', and not knowing the steps, I had to follow the lead of others.

I also seem to find that 'goes against the grain' of my nature, to tip toe around, and find all sorts of creative platitudes, to keep within the limits of the flow.

I guess, I bust out of the cloak, I put on, when it isn't authentic, I do try it on for size, but if it pinches and pulls, I have to shed it.

Thankyou Wench, I like this reflection, and the opportunity, to 'see' me in your reality.flowerforyou

Voile, I think you are onto something..:wink:

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Sun 12/16/07 07:56 AM
I had alwasy believe that the 'Extreemist', being the 'Pro-life', 'evironmentalists', and others make the changes in our government/society. The people in the middle would like to make changes yet do nothing about it, most dont. This was just how i felt until i realize this must be applied with religion. There needs to be some checks with the human mind. Ill give my Credit for this observation to "different"

Realizing that There needs to be an Extreem Athiest to counter a Extreem Christian, its checks my spirituality, cannt say what it helps the Athiest i havent been there. Religion got outta hand a while ago, Only allowing the rich and the no Women policy kinda had 'man' taking a horrible approach. Athiest put such humans in check

AS well, it seems that i hear alot of people saying "your trying to convert/change/push religion on others. Maybe thier not preaching to you, more-less the others who read the threads yet are to afriad to post =), somthing to think about.


no photo
Sun 12/16/07 08:06 AM
OK!

How does Jess land in my reality?

1) 'somewhat unpredictable'. Sometimes, expecting Jess to 'sign in' on side of a debate, finds her completely on the other side.
Appears to avoid being boxed-in at all cost!

2) Can touch you staight to the heart and soul with the 'raw' emotions of her personnal life experiences.
Paints a 'no bull' picture of what is so for all of us.

3) Can slide-in with 'dust-bunny' like, one-liner editorial comments on different threads.
Is capable of a little dose of 'cynicism', a bit of a 'humour-wrapped' side-stepping of the issues, often paving the way for a 'clarifying' observation at the heart of the issue.

4) Jess's trusts 'self', but not entirely. Jess goes full out into something, but keeps the 'eject-handle' in her back pocket. Regardless of her 'internal battles' (we all have them. Some like Jess deal with them, some others don't), Jess comes more often than not (almost everytime from my pespective), on the 'up-and-converging' side of the equation, rather than the 'down-and-separating' side.

5) Jess occurs to me as someone whom above all cherishes her dominion over 'self', and is prepared to defend that right right of dominion over self for others.
JESS WILL NOT BE TOLD 'WHAT TO DO'.
JESS WILL NOT SAY OR DO SOMETHING WHICH SHE WOULD KNOW TO BE AGAINST HER WILL, OR SOUL!!!

6) When Jess's 'buttons' ARE NOT reactivated (confusion, attacks against her 'dominion', male chauvinist issues, and some others) 'SPIRIT' is very much present around Jess!!!


Not definitive in any way, shape or form. Just how you land in my reality for now.

no photo
Sun 12/16/07 08:16 AM

voil, is this so others can tell you how you fall in their reality or how we perceive that we fall in theirs? Both? None? Am I in the right thread???? Where am I again???? oh hell........................


Hello Dragoness,

We are looking at 'jess' right now. 'How Jess lands in our reality?'. How one occurs to each one of us. You might gt an idea from reading what I just posted on my perceptions of Jess.

When the round on Jess will be complete, someone else will offer herself or himself as a 'candidate' to hear how she/he lands in others reality. And so on.

Also, to answer Abra concern about the forum rules, comments and observations in 'good faith' are made on one candidate at a time with his/her permission. When the candidate has heard enough, she/he brings her exchange to an end. It is done in respect and with the permission of the 'cnadidate'.

Does that clarify 'Dragoness, and 'Abra' ?!?!?

no photo
Sun 12/16/07 08:18 AM


Ok someones gotta break the Ice so Ill talk about creative

I think he is a man :wink:

He seems like he is often trying to be the peace keeper. For some reason that leads me to believe that he is comfortable with himself. He doesn't feel the need to brow beat. I get the feeling that he would be easy to talk to in the real world. I think he is right handed and has a strange affinity for Ukulele Music. (that last one may be a stretch)



Great observation on 'creative', 'yzrabbit1'. We'll hold it for 'creative's period later (after Jess).

:)

no photo
Sun 12/16/07 09:13 AM
4) Jess's trusts 'self', but not entirely.


a wink a nod and a thumbs up

s1owhand's photo
Sun 12/16/07 09:19 AM
This is an interesting thread because by forum rules we aren’t allowed to talk about other posters, only about the topics of the threads. So how does that rule come into play when the actual topic of the thread is how the posters project into our reality???


This is simple! I have reported you all!!!

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Sun 12/16/07 09:20 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 12/16/07 09:21 AM
Like Mission Impossible...

This thread will self-destruct in 10 seconds....laugh
Think of it as "Evolution"

yzrabbit1's photo
Sun 12/16/07 09:56 AM



Ok someones gotta break the Ice so Ill talk about creative

I think he is a man :wink:

He seems like he is often trying to be the peace keeper. For some reason that leads me to believe that he is comfortable with himself. He doesn't feel the need to brow beat. I get the feeling that he would be easy to talk to in the real world. I think he is right handed and has a strange affinity for Ukulele Music. (that last one may be a stretch)



Great observation on 'creative', 'yzrabbit1'. We'll hold it for 'creative's period later (after Jess).

:)



I missed the "going in order part" sorry ZEUS :wink: :wink:

blushing

Dragoness's photo
Sun 12/16/07 10:19 AM


voil, is this so others can tell you how you fall in their reality or how we perceive that we fall in theirs? Both? None? Am I in the right thread???? Where am I again???? oh hell........................


Hello Dragoness,

We are looking at 'jess' right now. 'How Jess lands in our reality?'. How one occurs to each one of us. You might gt an idea from reading what I just posted on my perceptions of Jess.

When the round on Jess will be complete, someone else will offer herself or himself as a 'candidate' to hear how she/he lands in others reality. And so on.

Also, to answer Abra concern about the forum rules, comments and observations in 'good faith' are made on one candidate at a time with his/her permission. When the candidate has heard enough, she/he brings her exchange to an end. It is done in respect and with the permission of the 'cnadidate'.

Does that clarify 'Dragoness, and 'Abra' ?!?!?


I too agree with you on Jess, she comes off as honest and truthful to herself. Not caring of others views of her but caring of her view of herself. This kind of honesty is unique. Which to me describes Jess in my mind. Unique and a straight shooter. If I were to come up against Jess on a subject matter I would not fear that she would be representing others views but those of her own, making me feel respectful of her opinion. I do not believe no matter how controversial Jess would be that she would be intending to be mean spirited or manipulative, just Jess.

Is this how it is supposed to be done?

My reality when Jess enters it. Ya'll are welcome to use me as the next victim J/K, I would willingly offer myself up for how I fall in others reality.

creativesoul's photo
Sun 12/16/07 10:30 AM
Ahhhh, Lee....

A woman who does her best to live in the 'now'...

One who will step up to the plate for the ones she loves... instantly, and without regret...

The keeper of her own keys, who is hesitant in giving her full trust away...

A surveyor of self, with a drive to be that which is important to her...

The one who listens to a friend in need, while at the same time placing her own personal issues aside for the benefit of the friend, without remorse...

The joyful existence of a wide-eyed and fun-loving child living within an intelligent woman...

She is the epitome of determination, integrity, and perserverance...



Abracadabra's photo
Sun 12/16/07 11:16 AM
Jess lands in my reality like a modern day version of Alya, the cavewoman from Jean Auel’s “The Clan of the Cave Bear”. Alya was from a highly evolved species of human and got separated from her clan to end up living with a more primitive species.

I see Jess in much the same way. She appears to be looking around at all the monkeys wondering why they can’t think above their limited plane. She seems to understand that life is a candy store of experience yet everyone else seems to be putting Tabasco sauce on everything because they can’t recognize that it’s candy.

I can just see her laughing as she looks at the sour look on their face when they try to eat the candy with Tabasco sauce. She’s not laughing at them with malice, but rather in the same way that one would laugh at a dog chasing its own tail. She appears to be trying to politely point out that it’s their own tail they are chasing, but they can’t seem to comprehend what she’s saying.

I think she sometimes displays a bit of frustration, and maybe some melancholy and a yearning to be with her own species again. I see her walking barefoot along mountainous paths, looking down into every valley hoping to see signs of her lost clan, with the dream of returning to a life where everyone shares the candy of life untainted by the silly Tabasco sauce. Will she ever find her secret valley? Or is she destined to live with the monkeys forever?

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 12/16/07 02:45 PM
Order? There's an order to this? laugh laugh laugh

WellIsposeifIgotta.......Ok, Voil, I'll attempt being orderly, but only 'cause, cause, well cause, I'm nosy. laugh laugh laugh Please add me to the list of candi-dates, hold the Tabasco though please.

Jess642's photo
Sun 12/16/07 03:09 PM
Wow !!

Why do I feel 'exposed'? blushing blushing laugh :heart:

'Exposed', with a nodding of the head, and a smile, as I read each of other's reality of how I land in it.

May I respond to each of you , in this one post, to conserve a little cyber paper?

Voile, or 'Zeus', (Greg that's catchy..:wink: laugh )

1) Yes....I am sitting here, chuckling, wondering how you got your hands on my school reports...laugh I call that 'avoidance' of being boxed in, my 'defiance disorder'. This comes from allowing the many facets of my nature to come up, within me, I want to learn me, to be the rawest, and most stripped clean human that I can be.
With you observing this in my posts, I can say YES, resoundingly, I am authentic in your reality, and how I land in it.
2) I try to share me, and my perspectives of some of the life experiences I have had, without garnishing it, or existing in victim, with the desire to 'show' another side, another way of looking at things, to others.
3)Dust bunnies rule! :wink:
4) So very true Voile, it is the lack of complete trust, as I see ego, as a trickster, and it is always possible for me to be re-active, and not balanced in a topic, and I will often contradict my posts from page to page, as I wrestle with what is authentically me.

Thankyou Voile, I appreciate this opportunity for reflection, and to 'see' me, through others eyes. flowerforyou


Funches, thankyou, in the short time you have been here, you also, see the me, that I am, and not a want to be. :wink: happy


Dragoness, I am also joyfully so, able to respond to you. The more I read here, the more I am relieved, that I am being authentic, I am 'projecting' the woman, that lives and exists...and shares a small part of her nature, here with others. I am so glad I land in anyone's reality, and this feedback, shows me, that although I struggle with 'humanness', I am doing the work, on myself. flowerforyou

I can't express enough, how all of this, and each persons 'view' of me, is such a positive experience for me.


Michael.....oh dear Michael.... I find it so hard to read your post, without a tear in my eye, how does one convey on here, the complete acceptance of another, the total respect and awe one feels for another...?
:heart: <---this is not enough....I am so glad to have you in my world.

I suspect we both see more through the lens of the tear. flowerforyou


James,

As I read your observations, of how you see my, all I could do was nod, and smile. I also read Clan of the Cave Bear, about 17 years ago, now, and I identified so strongly with Alya.

I often have said, here in real time, and occasionally, in past threads, on the other site, I roamed a long time, to find my own kind, my kin. And yes, I found many like me through this site, like I have found my kind, my clan.

Secret valley? I did, I found two, Here in Agnes water, and here on JSH. flowerforyou :heart:




This is difficult to explain, and at the same time, easy, the participants, of this exercise, 'see' me, how I see me.

I was struck, by how another can be seen, that we have to have these parts in ourselves, to 'see' them in another.

I hope others receive the same pleasure I have, by you all sharing your reflections, of how I land in your reality.


Thankyou. flowerforyou :heart:



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