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It is one of the cornerstones of my peeves with 'fundies' and other radical and militant types, whom in the end, only believe in one thing: ... THEY OWN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE...!!! ... since THEY (believe they) have THE TRUTH,... ... THEY (are delusionally convinced they) are RIGHT, and YOU are WRONG! and in doing so place theirselves into the role of God |
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up is up because relative to another position it is a little higher than the previous up which is lower and down relative to the previous up. since the universe is limitless there is always a position that is more up so anyone that claim to be "up” in a hierarchy is in fact stating they are "down" relative to someone else who is higher in the hierarchy ..hence "up is down" so those that are trying to pass off up as truth without sufficient proof to make such a claim are lying to themselves and to others, while using the word higher is only a way to justify the deception “up is down” there is just no way around this logic would not going around put you at the same level insert head scratching emoticon here explain what you mean adj4u up is up because relative to another position there is always a position that is more up -------- insinuating you may change position would not going around changing position -------------- they are "down" relative to someone else who is higher in the hierarchy ..hence "up is down" although changing your position you must be on the same plaine with that which you are surpassing put you at the same level --------------------- to be up is up only relative to that which is lower and to be down is only relative to that which is higher they do not necessarily interchange with each other in their on relativity but only when adding other implications |
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i am VERY skeptical
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i am VERY skeptical that is a good thing |
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa |
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hey invisible kitty kat .. Your punch line is getting boring, think of something new, you sound quite delusional to me. funny if I sound delusional to you.. you resort to using that phrase ....also if my punch line is becoming boring so is looking at those fake avatar of yours and your bible thumping It's not better to look at a headless man  which head Your non-existing one (on your pic anyways) give me your e-mail address and I'll show you the existence of both of them |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 12/08/07 10:03 AM
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all |
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up is up because relative to another position there is always a position that is more up -------- insinuating you may change position would not going around changing position -------------- they are "down" relative to someone else who is higher in the hierarchy ..hence "up is down" although changing your position you must be on the same plaine with that which you are surpassing put you at the same level --------------------- to be up is up only relative to that which is lower and to be down is only relative to that which is higher they do not necessarily interchange with each other in their on relativity but only when adding other implications sorry adj4u ..but stowhand explained it better |
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all it's called a social security number |
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all it's called a social security number not relative to where you post |
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all it's called a social security number not relative to where you post a credit card ...a cellphone ... |
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Voil wrote: It is one of the cornerstones of my peeves with 'fundies' and other radical and militant types, whom in the end, only believe in one thing: ... THEY OWN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE...!!! ... since THEY (believe they) have THE TRUTH,... ... THEY (are delusionally convinced they) are RIGHT, and YOU are WRONG! Ah, a voice of reason. So refreshing. 
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adj4u
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Sat 12/08/07 10:19 AM
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time explain how those would be relative to where you post you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all it's called a social security number not relative to where you post a credit card ...a cellphone ... how would those relate to your posts here |
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i did not realize you had such a hard time understanding the basic logic behind religion [/qoute] not really ..religion is the poor man's therapy session it appears you stay in religion nearly all of the time explain how those would be relative to where you post you must have a tracking device on me or something ..sounds like you have the ever seeing eye of God ..or Santa actually yes there is a tracking device but it is available to all it's called a social security number not relative to where you post a credit card ...a cellphone ... tithes |
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give me your e-mail address and I'll show you the existence of both of them |
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give me your e-mail address and I'll show you the existence of both of them No thank you, I have enough of you here, I don't need you in my private life as well |
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hi, the definition of faith, cannot be defined by religion. The definition of faith has to defined incorrectly by religion, because religions deal with "truth" that can't be see, so religions have almost unverisally said that faith is believing what you can't see, I have little time here, but my own personal belief, maybe taken from the philiosophy that I read, is that faith, should be defined more closely with the idea of will, "I faith in my will, to dream, to decide, to confront, and in my faith, I have to realize it is only faith and not truth, even if it is my personal truth. Anyway, I get a little scare even in verbal discussions, because all of us don't know what the hell we're saying anyway.
jimmy |
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give me your e-mail address and I'll show you the existence of both of them No thank you, I have enough of you here, I don't need you in my private life as well right it may cause the circle on your halo to point up-oh |
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give me your e-mail address and I'll show you the existence of both of them No thank you, I have enough of you here, I don't need you in my private life as well right it may cause the circle on your halo to point up-oh At least, I have the chance of a halo, how ever broken it might be, there is no space for you to have one 
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"to believe is to doubt" ... is rather a legitimate and most pertinent topic which could be 'open for (real) debate' on a 'religious chat' forum. So people, PICK: 1) CIVILIZED, HEATED (maybe), but SINCERE and REAL DEBATE or, 2) ANOTHER NOISY AND POINTLESS 'PISSING CONTEST' ?!!? Pissing contest: 'personal', excludes some others, holds a strong hidden agenda which one MUST win! or Debating match: 'universal', includes all, whether agreement is ultimately reached or not. Essentially, IMO, and in full MUTUAL respect of people's convictions, the only debate worth having here, gravitates around reaching ... or not reaching consensus, and conciliation of the true nature of faith and beliefs on 'what is so!' (our respective, yet possibly shared perspective of reality). It will be interesting to watch how this one turns out?!?!? |
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