Topic: Initiating 101
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Wed 11/28/18 04:12 AM
Edited by Riverspirit1111 on Wed 11/28/18 04:34 AM


Giving conscious signals, subtle or more bold, doesn't really feel natural to me either. I'm just trying to figure out if that's because that's how I'm wired or due to other reasons.

And to be honest, my being 56 plays a little part in my wondering about this right now. Going about it naturally could take quite a bit of time... I'm not getting any younger, years wise, still young at heart. So I figure it wouldn't hurt to get a little more proactive in helping move things a little faster biggrin

Guess time will tell.

It is good to think about it. I have done too. For me it's more that it is easier (read 'safer') to not do it. Doing it means going out of my comfort-zone, not doing it isn't. But that also means I expect someone to meet me in my comfort-zone, and is that really what I want? For me the answer is "No!"

If you think about it for yourself, do you have a playful, lighthearted side? A flirty side, a part that likes to tease a little every now and then, or not? ANd likes to get teased a bit as well of course.
For me that side comes out naturally when I'm already with a guy. Meaning I DO have it, I just kind of wait for a guy for it to surface.
Thing is, if you think Law of Attraction (and your own happiness), if you want a relationship that also allows for your playful, flirting, fun side, you have to be able to activate that before you meet someone as well. Then you'll attract a man who matches that, who likes that side of you.
Otherwise you could end up with a man who falls for your more serious 'comfort-zone' you, and then when your playful side comes out and he feels overwhelmed.
Hope you get what I mean, it easily sounds very black & white when typed and it's not B&W.

I have done it, allowed my lighthearted, fun, playful and teasing side to come out before the guy was there. And you know what, it is wonderful!!
It's not fake, it actually feels natural, me.
It is exciting, and yes, it can put you on edge a wee bit at times, but that's also the fun of it!
Like they say: Life happens outside of your comfort-zone!

So yes, it is something to think about. And yes, in a way it would be easier if it would just simply drop into your lap. But if you think about these two scenarios...
Scenario 1 is that it just happened, no real excitement, not much flirting and playful stuff, comfortable...

OR

Scenario 2 where you go out of your comfort-zone to flirt, be lighthearted & playful, tease a bit and get teased, being a bit nervous about going out of your C-zone but also really enjoying the juicy excitement and fun that comes with it...
What appeals more?

Neither is wrong, but looking at it this way might help to get more clarity as to what it is you actually want and your reasons for choosing one or the other.
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When I finally relax, being playful does come naturally.

My response to Tom has shown me I need a little self nurturing right now, and it probably would be good to find a support person to talk to. We have such a person at the Y.

Lots of stress factors and some feelings of "where do I belong" and "who'd want me"... I want to skip over dealing with those feelings and just get to the good stuff slaphead

Yes I know... it's not gonna happen. I gotta pay a little more attention to me and then I'll probably be in a better place to shine like I've done in the past by taking care of me first.

Thanks Crystal... guess I'm not fully ready either! flowerforyou


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Wed 11/28/18 02:33 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Wed 11/28/18 02:36 PM

Thank you Tom flowerforyou I like that you gave a response to a,b,c,and d. Choice b or c would be the best routes to go :)

That's interesting with the numbered classes, I guess it's slightly different depending on where you go. I don't recall my grade school years very much, the 101, 201, etc.. was in college.

What you said makes a lot of sense. And the more I think about it, it could very well be self esteem issues and lack of confidence. I've dealt with and worked through so much stuff from the past and have come really far. I think of that rather than what's going on right now, and the effect the last year has had on me.

A lot of good, but other things that have occurred that I'm not really dealing with... least not effectively. I know that because the thoughts still weigh heavy on my mind.

Over the last year...

.. Went through a devastating hurricane that cost me my job and forced me to look at my home environment.

.. Walked away from a toxic sibling, thus becoming homeless

.. Move around from seasonal work to seasonal work (this is my 3rd job in the last year)... exciting but lonely... and sometimes difficult to see the excitement because you're focusing so much on the fact that you're homeless.... Although after speaking with my brother, I do have a roof over my head and hot meals and an address, so I'm not really homeless. Just feel like I don't belong anywhere... Bingo! That's the problem.

.. I quit smoking

.. I got my drivers license back

.. I've reconnected with my sons (face to face... I was in Florida 9 yrs)

.. I gained 35 pounds... huge effect on my esteem (it's been 17 yrs since I've been this overweight

.. And I had two rejections to my initiating more than friendship (of course deep down I know they were right for me, just safe and within my comfort zone because we were already friends, lol. Mostly bruised my ego, didn't break my heart because I wasn't really in love with them, just the idea of love.

.. Started having major issues with my muscles and joints... lots of pain


I'd say that's a recipe to get my butt into counseling... Lot of stress factors there and that's most likely what is causing the esteem and confidence levels... and the body aches! Keeping it in my head, I can easily dismiss it and say I'm fine. Writing it out, hell no I'm not, lol.

When it comes to a relationship... The two I believe are affecting me the most are is being stuck in the idea that I am homeless and that I don't really feel attractive anymore since I gained so much weight. Well that not as much as I'm in almost daily pain, so what fun would I be for a man?

I believe I'm in the right place here at the Y. I'm actually meeting people face to face, I'll be going out with the ladies tonight, and there's a licensed counselor on site, so I do have free counseling available to me. I just hated the idea of going... again! But from all my education, training, and being a part of support groups and recovery, I understand the effects of stress factors... I just like to think I'm some how different and won't be effected adversely slaphead


Oh, I can SO relate to a number of things you mention here!
I'm not homeless, but live in an area I do not feel I belong. Not happy, withering, no social circle, and no means to move away.

Joint pains, been having those for years and it only gets worse. Mostly my neck problem btw, causes me a helluva lot of grief. The reason I cannot work. It limits my social life, going out, visiting people, normal reading, and so on. I sometimes feel like a f*(king invalid.
Of late it got worse, due to doing too many card readings. So yet another thing I cannot do anymore. Soul destroying...
It was also a means of income and building up a practice, so that's out of the window too now. Dreams gone. Hopes for a better future with that.

And the fear that a man won't want me because of it... My ex didn't mind, he had a few ailments himself, so he understood. But in a way I feel he was one of a kind, and I won't find another like him anymore.
It does affect certain things in a relationship as I have to be very careful with positions of my head, which you tend to forget when kissing, cuddling and so on.

I am working on smoking a lot less as it is bothering me tremendously. Wheezing, short of breath, plus it cost an arm and a leg.
But I too fear gaining some 17 kilos, which is quite normal when you quit smoking. That's why I haven't quit just yet, first cutting back drastically.
I fear putting on so much weight as I also put on a lot of weight from stress when with my other abusive ex (not due to eating). Nothing I did helped to lose it, except for leaving him, haha. Then it just melted away, no diet or anything. It was like a buffer, a defense, a protective shield.
I was EXALTED to finally be able to wear the clothes that make me feel "me" again, young, attractive, feminine, sexy.
So I get your feeling completely!

Seems like we're almost in the same boat. Weird...

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Wed 11/28/18 02:51 PM


Thank you Tom flowerforyou I like that you gave a response to a,b,c,and d. Choice b or c would be the best routes to go :)

That's interesting with the numbered classes, I guess it's slightly different depending on where you go. I don't recall my grade school years very much, the 101, 201, etc.. was in college.

What you said makes a lot of sense. And the more I think about it, it could very well be self esteem issues and lack of confidence. I've dealt with and worked through so much stuff from the past and have come really far. I think of that rather than what's going on right now, and the effect the last year has had on me.

A lot of good, but other things that have occurred that I'm not really dealing with... least not effectively. I know that because the thoughts still weigh heavy on my mind.

Over the last year...

.. Went through a devastating hurricane that cost me my job and forced me to look at my home environment.

.. Walked away from a toxic sibling, thus becoming homeless

.. Move around from seasonal work to seasonal work (this is my 3rd job in the last year)... exciting but lonely... and sometimes difficult to see the excitement because you're focusing so much on the fact that you're homeless.... Although after speaking with my brother, I do have a roof over my head and hot meals and an address, so I'm not really homeless. Just feel like I don't belong anywhere... Bingo! That's the problem.

.. I quit smoking

.. I got my drivers license back

.. I've reconnected with my sons (face to face... I was in Florida 9 yrs)

.. I gained 35 pounds... huge effect on my esteem (it's been 17 yrs since I've been this overweight

.. And I had two rejections to my initiating more than friendship (of course deep down I know they were right for me, just safe and within my comfort zone because we were already friends, lol. Mostly bruised my ego, didn't break my heart because I wasn't really in love with them, just the idea of love.

.. Started having major issues with my muscles and joints... lots of pain


I'd say that's a recipe to get my butt into counseling... Lot of stress factors there and that's most likely what is causing the esteem and confidence levels... and the body aches! Keeping it in my head, I can easily dismiss it and say I'm fine. Writing it out, hell no I'm not, lol.

When it comes to a relationship... The two I believe are affecting me the most are is being stuck in the idea that I am homeless and that I don't really feel attractive anymore since I gained so much weight. Well that not as much as I'm in almost daily pain, so what fun would I be for a man?

I believe I'm in the right place here at the Y. I'm actually meeting people face to face, I'll be going out with the ladies tonight, and there's a licensed counselor on site, so I do have free counseling available to me. I just hated the idea of going... again! But from all my education, training, and being a part of support groups and recovery, I understand the effects of stress factors... I just like to think I'm some how different and won't be effected adversely slaphead


Oh, I can SO relate to a number of things you mention here!
I'm not homeless, but live in an area I do not feel I belong. Not happy, withering, no social circle, and no means to move away.

Joint pains, been having those for years and it only gets worse. Mostly my neck problem btw, causes me a helluva lot of grief. The reason I cannot work. It limits my social life, going out, visiting people, normal reading, and so on. I sometimes feel like a f*(king invalid.
Of late it got worse, due to doing too many card readings. So yet another thing I cannot do anymore. Soul destroying...
It was also a means of income and building up a practice, so that's out of the window too now. Dreams gone. Hopes for a better future with that.

And the fear that a man won't want me because of it... My ex didn't mind, he had a few ailments himself, so he understood. But in a way I feel he was one of a kind, and I won't find another like him anymore.
It does affect certain things in a relationship as I have to be very careful with positions of my head, which you tend to forget when kissing, cuddling and so on.

I am working on smoking a lot less as it is bothering me tremendously. Wheezing, short of breath, plus it cost an arm and a leg.
But I too fear gaining some 17 kilos, which is quite normal when you quit smoking. That's why I haven't quit just yet, first cutting back drastically.
I fear putting on so much weight as I also put on a lot of weight from stress when with my other abusive ex (not due to eating). Nothing I did helped to lose it, except for leaving him, haha. Then it just melted away, no diet or anything. It was like a buffer, a defense, a protective shield.
I was EXALTED to finally be able to wear the clothes that make me feel "me" again, young, attractive, feminine, sexy.
So I get your feeling completely!

Seems like we're almost in the same boat. Weird...


Lol, when I was with my son's father I was 190 pounds... it came off like what you described after I left, very quickly! Some people asked what kind of diet I went on and I would just tell them I got a divorce, hahaha... let go of some baggage. I actually believe that even though he wasn't a bad person. He was my security blanket though. I maintained a healthy weight for the past 17 years, until this past summer.

Very much the same feelings now as you've been having.

Back years ago when I lost 60 pounds, I wasn't smoking... so it can be done and you can quit without gaining. It's difficult though. Most of my weight gain this time was from gorging my face with fudge all summer, and not being active.

I am concerned with being older and it being more difficult to loose, but I'm determined to loose it, primarily because I will feel healthier.

I'm sorry you're going through all that, it's tough to keep a clear mind and remain positive when there seems to be so much against you. I am a little more fortunate because I do have face to face support available to me. Last summer I didn't, I was pretty much glued to the Inn and felt even more isolated and alone in the world.

Thanks so much for sharing Crystal flowerforyou

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Wed 11/28/18 04:45 PM
Since we are talking about meeting people and putting yourself out there, I had something that happened to me at the gym. This was years ago and my town is small, maybe 3 or 4 people in the gym at a time, so you chat with people from time to time. I was talking with a guy who was really good looking. He was like a young Mel Gibson. He was very friendly. We were doing our own thing.... I had plans of going to hear a band to play that night, so I had an idea of asking him to go. A little time went by and he approached me with his girlfriend to introduce us. I was disappointed, but they were so friendly and from out of town, so I told them about the concert and they should go. They did go.

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Wed 11/28/18 07:33 PM
Hi cat, that was nice of you to tell them about the concert. It's tough sometimes to know if someone is in a relationship already. Sounds like you handled it really well, that's cool!

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Thu 11/29/18 12:22 AM


A. Walk by, make eye contact, smile, and keep walking?
B. Walk by, make eye contact, smile, and say hi?
C. Walk up to the table, ask if he'd like company?
D. Just go sit someplace and bang my head on the table in frustration?

A. Walk by, make eye contact, smile, and keep walking?
I would think she's a friendly person
B. Walk by, make eye contact, smile, and say hi?
I would respond with "Hi" then ask a question or two (wondering if you were going to sit down with me to talk over lunch.
C. Walk up to the table, ask if he'd like company?
I would say "sure" and gesture for you to sit.
D. Just go sit someplace and bang my head on the table in frustration?
I would notice you. Wondering what could possibly motivate you to do such a thing and depending on how curious or hungry I was I would either get up and go to you to find out or return to eating my lunch. And yeah, I'd be giggling no matter which path I chose cause, "Dude, That's Funny".

I went to school in the 70s. My middle school was over 100 years old when I attended. The classrooms were numbered B101 - B130 for the basement rooms 01-09 were designated as 6th grade classrooms, 10-19 were 7th grade classrooms, 20-29 were 8th grade classrooms and 30 was teachers lounge.
The school had three floors. The first floor were the common areas, library, office, equipment rooms, lunch room and assembly hall.
The second floor and 3rd floor were numbered 101-130 and 201-230 respectively. All rooms 01-09 were 6th grade. So, B01, 101 & 201 were always beginner classrooms. "English 101" meant 6th grade English class, Math 102 meant 6th grade mathematics class and so on.

When I went to HS, 9th graders were in Green Hall so we always referred to the beginning of learning as Green.

what if being yourself is that person who doesn't normally initiate for whatever reason, but would like to start... and it feels a little awkward?

Being yourself doesn't mean you have to stick with traditional methods.
If you are doing something you do not want to do, you are certainly not being yourself. Personally, I think you should do what makes you feel right and in alignment with who you are and what it is you are trying to achieve.

You work in a hospitality trade. People with outgoing personalities do well in that trade. They are people-persons. If you have the ability to talk to guests, you already have the skill needed to talk to a potential partner and all you need is a boost in your self-esteem.
You can find better self-esteem by understanding yourself better. Honestly addressing all your personality quirks and placing value on the ones that will help you attain your goal and not concerning yourself with the ones that don't. In other words, set your personality priorities that you want others to see and forget about the ones you carry around from your past that do not fit anymore.

Riverspirit1111, I find you are an easy person to interact with. You have good values and manners, use that with confidence and you will succeed.

Remember, when you feel good about yourself it makes you shine and project a 'friendly' presence to those around you. A forced smile is picked up easily as a genuine one but the real smile will inspire positive response.


Thank you Tom flowerforyou I like that you gave a response to a,b,c,and d. Choice b or c would be the best routes to go :)

That's interesting with the numbered classes, I guess it's slightly different depending on where you go. I don't recall my grade school years very much, the 101, 201, etc.. was in college.

What you said makes a lot of sense. And the more I think about it, it could very well be self esteem issues and lack of confidence. I've dealt with and worked through so much stuff from the past and have come really far. I think of that rather than what's going on right now, and the effect the last year has had on me.

A lot of good, but other things that have occurred that I'm not really dealing with... least not effectively. I know that because the thoughts still weigh heavy on my mind.

Over the last year...

.. Went through a devastating hurricane that cost me my job and forced me to look at my home environment.

.. Walked away from a toxic sibling, thus becoming homeless

.. Move around from seasonal work to seasonal work (this is my 3rd job in the last year)... exciting but lonely... and sometimes difficult to see the excitement because you're focusing so much on the fact that you're homeless.... Although after speaking with my brother, I do have a roof over my head and hot meals and an address, so I'm not really homeless. Just feel like I don't belong anywhere... Bingo! That's the problem.

.. I quit smoking

.. I got my drivers license back

.. I've reconnected with my sons (face to face... I was in Florida 9 yrs)

.. I gained 35 pounds... huge effect on my esteem (it's been 17 yrs since I've been this overweight

.. And I had two rejections to my initiating more than friendship (of course deep down I know they were right for me, just safe and within my comfort zone because we were already friends, lol. Mostly bruised my ego, didn't break my heart because I wasn't really in love with them, just the idea of love.

.. Started having major issues with my muscles and joints... lots of pain


I'd say that's a recipe to get my butt into counseling... Lot of stress factors there and that's most likely what is causing the esteem and confidence levels... and the body aches! Keeping it in my head, I can easily dismiss it and say I'm fine. Writing it out, hell no I'm not, lol.

When it comes to a relationship... The two I believe are affecting me the most are is being stuck in the idea that I am homeless and that I don't really feel attractive anymore since I gained so much weight. Well that not as much as I'm in almost daily pain, so what fun would I be for a man?

I believe I'm in the right place here at the Y. I'm actually meeting people face to face, I'll be going out with the ladies tonight, and there's a licensed counselor on site, so I do have free counseling available to me. I just hated the idea of going... again! But from all my education, training, and being a part of support groups and recovery, I understand the effects of stress factors... I just like to think I'm some how different and won't be effected adversely slaphead

I think you will be fine.
Health issues as we age is a given.
Oh, how I would love to have my 30 year old body again.
I am what I am right now and I have no choice but to accept that I am only getting older. So, rather than fight it, I embrace it.
I like who I am. I've been thru hell and back and it made me the person I am right now so I wouldn't change anything in hindsight. Those lessons were important.

Finding healthy self-esteem requires that you acknowledge everything you are and understand how you got that way and make the best out of the resulting person you are right now.
Nobody but you needs to know everything you had to go thru to get to the person you are now. Only you.

Being self-conscious about your weight or your home conditions are something that you 'give' to yourself as an excuse. But, as you gain confidence, you will find you don't need those excuses anymore because you love who and what you are. You are who and what you are BECAUSE you experienced those things and without them, you would not be that person.

As you gain clarity, you can change your conditions according to your needs and not feel guilty when those changes happen slower than you expected. This is because, during those changes, you are still that amazing person you already know you are.

Now, the question is how do you show that person you want to know, just how amazing you really are, despite the apparent shortcomings.
You do this by having the confidence to know that no matter what they might think, you will still be the one living your life.
It flips the requirements from your need to their need. You push what is strong in you and make them see it and ignore those things that give you doubt. They will see the great points and focus on them.

Then, when the connection is there and you are amazing to them, you let them in on the secret a lil at a time. Most will not have a problem unless you are hiding some terrible skeleton in that closet.

What this means is use your strengths to catch your prey. You have so many great qualities any man would be insane to ignore your advances.
It doesn't matter which demons you entertain in your head, it only matters which angels you present. As long as they are actually YOUR angels to show.

If I was a woman looking at me, I would say No Effin Way. Till I got to know me. Most people that get to know me, like me. Women I 'date' tend to proclaim their love for me right away. I don't do it on purpose, I just treat others with respect and dignity.

Having someone I meet like me is important to me. I put my best foot forward without being fake. My honesty and respect for others seems to make them agreeable. I even have that effect on the same gender. People like me because I treat them right. I have a basic honesty about my demeanor. I'm not looking for something from anyone and people notice that and it makes it easy to want to be around me.

What people don't know is that at any given time, I am figuring out all the different ways I could kill them. I see it as plain as day. Its my combat training and I hide that inner 'thing' in my interactions.
The fact that I could kill anyone without remorse is scary, even for me. That's my secret monster. I have control over it and it is not an issue because I don't ALLOW it to be an issue.
One of my biggest fears is that I automatically kill someone by accident. I hate that feeling. So I fight it by being timid and controlled.

We are who and what we are because we only allow the things to be on the surface that we decide. If we allow our self-doubt to surface, we will be self-doubting. If we allow our deadly training to surface, we will be deadly. We control who and what we are because we have control over our impulses. Take control of yourself and show others the person you want to be and reality will follow.

The trick is to figure out how to be the person you want to be.
That can only be done by being completely honest with yourself.
One thing that might help is to understand that nobody else on this planet has experienced exactly what you have and you survived.
No matter where you go or what you do it is always YOU.
Only you.

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Thu 11/29/18 09:02 AM
I think I am the person I want to be as far as my personality, the way I treat others and so on. But you’re right about not being who I want physically because of aging and health issues.

I don’t have a lot of opportunities to meet men in person but when I do, I believe I put myself out there. I smile, say hi and so on. To me, there just aren’t enough opportunities to meet men in person and if you do, are they single, the right age, the same interests and more. It seems like a daunting task.

Even meeting men online is a daunting task. I’m open to any method of connecting but none are easy.

I finally did meet someone on another site and well.......so far it’s been fun. Even if it doesn’t last, I now know it is actually possible and I’m having fun regardless. But he isn’t someone that I even considered approaching so another lesson learned.

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Thu 11/29/18 02:17 PM

I think I am the person I want to be as far as my personality, the way I treat others and so on. But you’re right about not being who I want physically because of aging and health issues.

I don’t have a lot of opportunities to meet men in person but when I do, I believe I put myself out there. I smile, say hi and so on. To me, there just aren’t enough opportunities to meet men in person and if you do, are they single, the right age, the same interests and more. It seems like a daunting task.

Even meeting men online is a daunting task. I’m open to any method of connecting but none are easy.

I finally did meet someone on another site and well.......so far it’s been fun. Even if it doesn’t last, I now know it is actually possible and I’m having fun regardless. But he isn’t someone that I even considered approaching so another lesson learned.


I'm glad you were able to meet someone. That's cool.

I can relate to not having a lot of opportunities to meet men. With the places I'm at for seasonal work it's very difficult as well. And the online method hasn't exactly been too successful... although I'm only with Mingle at the time.

And, I haven't really been interested though until recently. I'm starting to get out with a few ladies I work with, which makes it more possible. If anything it gets me out of my isolation mode and helps me loosen up more when it comes to socializing.


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Thu 11/29/18 03:42 PM
You'll meet someone, River. Good luck.

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Thu 11/29/18 04:17 PM
If it can happen for me, it can happen for you!

That goes out to all of you. I agree, open up your eyes for possibilities.

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Thu 11/29/18 05:02 PM
Thanks Cat and JBH flowerforyou waving

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Thu 11/29/18 05:25 PM
Edited by lilwmn on Thu 11/29/18 05:26 PM
I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.

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Thu 11/29/18 05:38 PM

I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.


Well when you're pressed for time and really need to get a man's attention, either beer or sex seem to work, lol.

I'm not sure I could be that bold, but under the same circumstances, who knows, maybe. Thanks for sharing lil flowerforyou



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Thu 11/29/18 06:09 PM

I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.


I can't help but laugh. Not at you. Rather, I know that if I did that as a man, all sorts of bad would happen, the least of which being a slap in the face. LOL

However, if a woman approached me like that, I'd actually feel flattered. I've only had a one one-night-stand ever, and it was initiated by the woman. That experience led me to realize that one-night-stands don't fit me, so I never did it again....even when approached by other women. Instead, I actually just try to get to know the woman now.

So if the woman is only interested in a one-night-stand, there's a 99.9% chance that I'm not going to do it.

But if the woman is actually interested in something more than just sex, as you were in that story, someone like me would actually give her a chance to show that. Otherwise, I'm just going to lose interest. I'd probably even politely remove myself from the conversation once it became apparent that all she wanted was sex. So if she wants more than that, she better make the most of the opportunity to converse instead.

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Thu 11/29/18 06:13 PM


I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.


Well when you're pressed for time and really need to get a man's attention, either beer or sex seem to work, lol.

I'm not sure I could be that bold, but under the same circumstances, who knows, maybe. Thanks for sharing lil flowerforyou





River I shocked myself that I did that.

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Thu 11/29/18 06:17 PM


I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.


I can't help but laugh. Not at you. Rather, I know that if I did that as a man, all sorts of bad would happen, the least of which being a slap in the face. LOL

However, if a woman approached me like that, I'd actually feel flattered. I've only had a one one-night-stand ever, and it was initiated by the woman. That experience led me to realize that one-night-stands don't fit me, so I never did it again....even when approached by other women. Instead, I actually just try to get to know the woman now.

So if the woman is only interested in a one-night-stand, there's a 99.9% chance that I'm not going to do it.

But if the woman is actually interested in something more than just sex, as you were in that story, someone like me would actually give her a chance to show that. Otherwise, I'm just going to lose interest. I'd probably even politely remove myself from the conversation once it became apparent that all she wanted was sex. So if she wants more than that, she better make the most of the opportunity to converse instead.


That's the ironic thing lynx, I don't do one night stands either, and I'd probably run the other way if a guy approached me that way.

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Thu 11/29/18 06:38 PM



I approached a guy once very boldly and out of character for me. He was a classmate of mine and it was apparent he did not take subtle clues.I had admitted his kindness and thoughtfulness to those in class. I really wanted to get to know him better. It was the last day of class, so I was trying to figure how to get his attention because there was a good chance I'd never see him again. So I asked him if he wanted to have sex. I couldn't believe I had the nerve to even say that. I'm sure I'll be judged for that here. It wasn't really that I wanted to have sex with him. I wanted to get to know him better. It was my desperate attempt to get his attention. It worked and we were together for close to 3 yrs.


Well when you're pressed for time and really need to get a man's attention, either beer or sex seem to work, lol.

I'm not sure I could be that bold, but under the same circumstances, who knows, maybe. Thanks for sharing lil flowerforyou





River I shocked myself that I did that.


Just goes to show we do have it in us, there's been times when I've shocked myself as well. And for you it worked, you had a relationship that lasted 3 years. There was something you saw in him and you saw the two of you together and you went above and beyond to be able to connect with him... That's really cool, and courageous!

I let the guy at the grocery store know I'll be here til May, lol. We were talking while he was ringing up my groceries, and he mentioned he wanted to stop by and talk with one of the managers in Housekeeping about volunteer work, I said he should. Then as I was walking away, I turned around and said, "I'll be here until May". slaphead

It just came out of my mouth without really thinking. He smiled and said okay laugh

Who knows, maybe by doing that he'll be more apt to stop by and talk to the manager here... and look for me so he can ask me out on a date bigsmile


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Thu 11/29/18 06:46 PM
Good for you River!:thumbsup:

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Sat 12/01/18 10:23 AM
The answer is E. Don’t ask just sit down by him. Make a semi flirty comment when you are sitting down so he knows what time it is.

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Sat 12/01/18 04:57 PM
i like ebigsmile
e would work with melaugh