Topic: So, WTF *is* it with guys insisting they are the "right guy"
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Mon 10/22/18 05:32 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Mon 10/22/18 05:36 PM


I recognize this entire scenario. Witnessed it MANY times. It hasn't changed in the fifty years I've been trying to find a mate.

I can tell you exactly what it's all about, if you like.

The first thing to recognize, is that everything the guy said, is a direct logical response to what he PERCEIVES to be the primary challenges he has to overcome in order to find a mate (even a temporary one).

The reason people who say those things don't come across as scammers, is because they are not scammers. They really do believe they are taking the right road to succeed. The problem they have, is that they have assembled their approach to dating from a rushed, simple-minded, haphazard, slapped-together mish mash, as well as a resentment-based understanding of how dating actually does work.

The "I'm the Right Guy For You" phrase is taken directly from the mouths and writings of all the younger women and girls the guy has come across or heard about or seen in films and on TV for his whole life. That can get combined with the standard "Don't take no for an answer!" idea that most American males get shoved at them from birth, and/or with "the reason why girls say things that don't make sense to you, is that they actually DON'T know what they want" myth. It also often gets exacerbated by the "girls and women prefer a guy who takes command,and shows that he knows what he wants" idea.

Add all those standard notions together without thinking anything through, and you get the exact kind of behavior you describe.




That doesn't explain why they can't list *one* thing out of the many things I have as interests that they *also* are interested in.

I do not messages guys with no profile..because I have not the first clue that we have anything at all in common....and i am not interested in playing "20 Questions" just to find if dude and I have anything in common.
That's what a profile is for.

No profile....lazy man
Can't be arsed to read a profile....lazy man.

I don't want a lazy man.

I think too many operate from "Thog want woman....any woman...YOU woman..why you no want Thog..?" frame of mind.

I also have gotten the reply to "what do you feel we share in common" (assuming he'll read the profile)...
"We're both single and on a dating site."

Really?
That's it?
Fabulous.
But honey..I need *more* than that.

These morons...do they really think a woman will fall on their dick when they have done *nothing* to pique her interest or make even the most feeble attempt at having a conversation?

You just want to hook up?
There are sites *just* for that..



Mike6615's photo
Mon 10/22/18 05:35 PM

It's happened more than a few times for me, where there are a couple exchanges of messages with a guy and it's going ok. he'll say something weird and I'll say I'm not interested. He then blows up at me, cursing and calling me names. I always think to myself, I dodged a bullet there.


The bullet may have just been his final response...in person, after a brutal beating. Being as strong as you are and blocking him early may have saved your life.

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Mon 10/22/18 05:50 PM
Yeah, Mike, i agree with a lot of what bluegrass said. good to notice some red alarms early. I'm not wanting a guy that maybe has a bad temper.

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Mon 10/22/18 05:53 PM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Mon 10/22/18 06:14 PM

Yeah, Mike, i agree with a lot of what bluegrass said. good to notice some red alarms early. I'm not wanting a guy that maybe has a bad temper.


Especially when, as I said earlier..you would THINK they'd be on their best behaviour, and trying to impress, or at least *charm* a woman....
Getting all bullyish and hateful is not gonna make me want to be with you bro....

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Mon 10/22/18 06:13 PM


Yeah, Mike, i agree with a lot of what bluegrass said. good to notice some red alarms early. I'm not wanting a guy that maybe has a bad temper.
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Especially when, as I said earlier..you would THINK they'd be on their best behaviour, and trying to impress, or at least *charm* a woman....
Getting all bullyish and hateful is not gonna make me want to be with you bro....


Blue, Too many guys are like that. I for one am the total opposite in the way I feel and think. I would never ever say I am the right guy for any lady. I though would feel on cloud 9 if the lady said that about me. In fact I am honored to be in a lady's presence. In my thinking the lady is a Princess and I am a lowly peasant and am so touched to be with her. I look at myself and think, Gawd what would she see in me?
So Blue, I am proud of you the way you handled that guy. Hopefully the next lady he tries that on will be as smart and handle it as well as you did.

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Mon 10/22/18 06:42 PM
I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .




MK2's photo
Mon 10/22/18 06:44 PM

I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl

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Mon 10/22/18 06:52 PM


I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin

MK2's photo
Mon 10/22/18 06:56 PM



I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin


Yep
Emailing you :wink: flowers

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Mon 10/22/18 07:11 PM




I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin


Yep
Emailing you :wink: flowers
I don't think you have thought that plan through at all laugh laugh tongue2

MK2's photo
Mon 10/22/18 07:14 PM





I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin


Yep
Emailing you :wink: flowers
I don't think you have thought that plan through at all laugh laugh tongue2


You know how much love & respect for you
Just wish if you are older blushing

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Mon 10/22/18 07:30 PM
He can share his side.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 10/22/18 07:47 PM



I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin


huh Plan B?


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Mon 10/22/18 07:58 PM






I would love to hear his side of the exchange .

Personally .. I dislike when people share private conversations in the forum .. especially when only one side of the argument is presented .






I just wanted to know her off the site
rofl
hope you have a plan b biggrin


Yep
Emailing you :wink: flowers
I don't think you have thought that plan through at all laugh laugh tongue2


You know how much love & respect for you
Just wish if you are older blushing
:heart: you have always had my respect even when you are cheeky bigsmile

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Mon 10/22/18 10:36 PM
Believe it or not there are a lot of real men that think women are a 'thing' to be possessed.
I see it even in 'happily' married couples.
One perceives ownership over the other.
Some want to be owned, to submit to someone more powerful.

There are few people, let alone men, that can think with equality in others. Look at the dynamics of friendships and social groups.
Someone always considers themselves the superior over the others.

The problem starts when we are aware of this. We recognize that controlling nature of superiority others try to impose on us.
Most people don't know what it is but know there is something certainly wrong.

Less and less people are embracing a submissive personality now.
Some people haven't figured that out yet and continue with the old traditional roles. Women have been the most influenced by the trend to personal empowerment so it is more likely men will behave in the traditional power roles longer while women reject their methods more and more as time passes.

Eventually, men will figure out those old ways no longer work.
Nobody lives behind my eyes.
I don't live behind anybody else's eyes either.

The real Mr Right will treat you in all ways with respect and integrity. He will allow you to be you and interact with you on equal ground.

Being patient sux. Being patient does pay off tho.

These are my own ideas on the subject.
I realize that not everyone thinks like me so as long as you do what YOU feel is right, you will find the right person for you.
Just don't jump the gun and cheat yourself out of a good thing.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 10/23/18 02:38 AM


Yeah, Mike, i agree with a lot of what bluegrass said. good to notice some red alarms early. I'm not wanting a guy that maybe has a bad temper.


Especially when, as I said earlier..you would THINK they'd be on their best behaviour, and trying to impress, or at least *charm* a woman....
Getting all bullyish and hateful is not gonna make me want to be with you bro....

Try to deal with it faster so you don't have stress about it. Don't argue with someone when it's clear it's not going anywhere. Waste of time and energy.
Just tell them "This isn't going to work, good luck" or something, block 'em and move on.
You don't need added stress from arguing. If he reacts that way you know right away he's not someone for you.

Not always easy to not argue, but it's much better for your blood pressure, haha.

I had a dude last week that made me feel like 'maybe it is possible!' for the first time in a year.
He'd asked me a question when I was offline, I answered it when he was online. He didn't reply though.
No problem, can happen. Likely talking to another woman.
Four days later he replied...
Seriously? Claiming at first to be so interested in me, then making me wait 4 days? I think not!
I called him out on his chit in a playful way, then he said he often didn't like to chat because he was fed up dragging things out of someone.
Really?
I think making ME wait for 4 days means I am the one who'll have to do the dragging, haha.
I told him that and that it was a bit odd he was complaining now, wished him good luck, blocked him.

Normally I don't react that way, I cannot be bothered, don't need the stress. But hey, it's Venus Rx in Scorpio, I get narked too at times, lol.

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Tue 10/23/18 03:37 AM
so true...slaphead tongue2

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Tue 10/23/18 08:17 AM
Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Tue 10/23/18 08:20 AM


I had a dude last week that made me feel like 'maybe it is possible!' for the first time in a year.
He'd asked me a question when I was offline, I answered it when he was online. He didn't reply though.
No problem, can happen. Likely talking to another woman.
Four days later he replied...
Seriously? Claiming at first to be so interested in me, then making me wait 4 days? I think not!
I called him out on his chit in a playful way, then he said he often didn't like to chat because he was fed up dragging things out of someone.
Really?
I think making ME wait for 4 days means I am the one who'll have to do the dragging, haha.
I told him that and that it was a bit odd he was complaining now, wished him good luck, blocked him.

Normally I don't react that way, I cannot be bothered, don't need the stress. But hey, it's Venus Rx in Scorpio, I get narked too at times, lol.



SparklingCrystal...
I have had 2-3 guys overe the paste few years on the sites *purposely* ignore me..
Conversation going well....they disappeared mid-conversation..
I write back...

Nothing..

A bit of time goes by..I give it no thought..don't see him online..
Then I see him online again..and I *playfully* (like you) ask him "Hey there...did aliens abuct you or something..? If you don't want talk anymore just say so.."

These 2-3 dudes said this was a TEST....to see how I acted when they didn't reply right away/ weren't at my beck and call...

Oh honey...we're back in Jr High, are we?

I don't know their reasons for that...maybe they were just full of s***...but that just seemed childish.

P.S. For some reason it seems like the guys who actually put on their profiles they wish women would reply....conversation is important...blah blah blah...those are he ones who do the ignoring crap most... spock

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 10/23/18 12:03 PM

SparklingCrystal...
I have had 2-3 guys overe the paste few years on the sites *purposely* ignore me..
Conversation going well....they disappeared mid-conversation..
I write back...

Nothing..

A bit of time goes by..I give it no thought..don't see him online..
Then I see him online again..and I *playfully* (like you) ask him "Hey there...did aliens abuct you or something..? If you don't want talk anymore just say so.."

These 2-3 dudes said this was a TEST....to see how I acted when they didn't reply right away/ weren't at my beck and call...

Oh honey...we're back in Jr High, are we?

I don't know their reasons for that...maybe they were just full of s***...but that just seemed childish.

P.S. For some reason it seems like the guys who actually put on their profiles they wish women would reply....conversation is important...blah blah blah...those are he ones who do the ignoring crap most... spock

If a guy says that in his profile I'm not even going to address him as it screams "I'm angry with women!" It basically says they feel sorry for themselves. Not the kind of man I'm looking for.

But what you can do is if you constantly attract w@nkers ask yourself how you are going about it all yourself, what are you feeling, what energy are you putting out there?
The people you attract are a reflection of what you exude. That's the beauty of it all, it's a mirror, you just have to be willing to look into it.

As for myself, the last 2 days I've been feeling up and down a lot, had deep old hurt come up, and with that intense anger.
If I'd now try to engage with a man or on a dating site I'm bound to attract immature men, angry men, or anything that resonates with my current low vibration.
Meaning I'm now steering clear from dating sites and talking to men until my energy stabilizes again.

You truly get what you give, so if what you get doesn't suit you... you gotta look at yourself.
Meaning: If you want a top quality man you got to be a match for that yourself --> you have to be a top quality woman.

Maybe something to consider... When I became more aware of all this I did start to attract better quality men.
flowerforyou

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Tue 10/23/18 12:10 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 10/23/18 12:10 PM
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