I thought Jesus wasn't god because invisible men in the sky don't exist.

Wow man great first post...if you don't believe in God why are you in the religion forum?

As for this topic God gave his son for us. Jesus had no choice but ultimatly realized it was the right thing to do. The Trinity Theory in my opinion is redundant. They are not one. God is the Father, Jesus The Son, and there are many theories as to the "Holy Ghost"

here here songbirrd

by the way Dear Lady ...


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i am sure you are singing now
with such a gorgeous and beautiful miracle
that has been so lovingly bestowed upon you


God Bless You and your beautiful new baby

may your baby grow up wise and very strong and healthy

people people please dont argue Why cant you believe what you believe and quit trying to prove others wrong your religions all preach peace so why are you fighting? Religion and politics create so much hate in this world it makes me sick. Please just chill out and love one an another

Peace
- Graham

"The smartest thing you can say is I dont know
Tell me what you think" - me

people people please dont argue Why cant you believe what you believe and quit trying to prove others wrong your religions all preach peace so why are you fighting? Religion and politics create so much hate in this world it makes me sick. Please just chill out and love one an another

Peace
- Graham

"The smartest thing you can say is I dont know
Tell me what you think" - me

No offense, but I think your comment is a bit naive. The "truth-claims" made by the religious and nonreligious should be discussed/debated/argued to determine which have merit, and are useful for instruction. I'm not out to convert or deconvert people to my way of thinking, but I definitely want people to ask questions. Of course, I don't have all the answers, but I can recognize invalid arguments and unsound conclusions. I hope people point mine out because that can help me better discover the truth.

BTW, not all religions "preach peace" in the colloquial sense. Peace could mean dominating others with a particular theology and under duress, they submit to your dogma. It's hardly a respectable or virtuous practice.

All the more reason to debate, and discuss these issues.

yes, dear...


but who is arguing ???


with 11 posts under your belt, i can't imagine
that you have been a long time reader of these threads

can't you just feel the love rising from these pages?

this is really one of the more civilized threads
of this topic...

Merry Christmas and happy new year

Welcome As the guy who started this thread I think your post is perfect.

the Lord said to doubting Thomas...

"Blessed are those who believe and have not yet seen"

I hope your not saying that God would prefer ignorant followers over well informed ones.

faith has nothing to do with ignorance

Faith is belief in something despite evidence, or when evidence refutes it.

debate without hate

Succinct. I agree.

thank you so much , Bro !!!

Well being that is said, "Practice What You Preach".. What? Oh yes, this means
"they submit to your dogma. It's hardly a respectable or virtuous practice." - no opinions in debate class =)

No she was talking about people who walk in Faith, and not in "the 5 senses" or by fact.

So the 5 wonderful senses God gave you are not important? He puts all that work into giving you all this sensory ability and you want to somehow say it isn't good? Or that your ability to figure fact from fiction (also something he must have given you) is not one of Gods greatest gifts? If I gave you all those gifts and you wasted them I would be disappointed in you.

Maybe God doesn't want us to use our senses as a crutch? Maybe God wants us to worship him because we want to, not because we have to? Just something to think about.