From what a guy posted on dh a while back, I would say welfare is going after men more. He call welfare a loan shark. If word is spreading that men are being held accountable for their kids, it might be making a difference in the black community.

4 times the minimum wage? 32 dollars an hour? times 160 hours a month , 5120 a month? where is one living where their expenses come to that much a month?

I made twice minimum wage (16) an hour, which after taxes left me about 2 grand a month. 800 for rent would bring it down to 1200. my insurance was about 300 for me and one child, which leaves me 900 and milk and utilities dont come to that much....

this is more the scenario, when I made 10 an hour, (1600) a month with one child, meant I was under 130 percent of poverty guidelines. I was able to receive a whopping 300 for food and 300 check, that would be the same at 1600 or ZERO income as long as it was below the threshold, because i went on Family Size , for snap, about 1.50 per meal per person, and for TANF, it varies by state.

so that was 600 in assistance and adding on the hypothetical 800 for rent, thats 1400, not close to 4 times minimum wage, even if I add in the 300 for medical/dental per month, its still not 4 times minimum wage.



hopefully, wages will get on par with cost of living increases ... so fewer will need assistance to pull through.

in all communities.

I'm not sure about that. When I worked at Honda, those young black girls were having unprotected sex with any man they could, trying to get pregnant. I had never seen anything like it in my life. In a lot of way they were mimicking animal behavior.

Would you care to wager how many single parent kids there are in the 4 thug infested areas of Chicago.
Or care to wager on how many multiple kid making sperm donor " baby daddies" there are in there too.
It would actually be alot faster too count the " baby daddies" who do take financial responsibility for the kids they make in there...just use your hand

Ms.h, have you ever had a baby while not on medicaid? My daughter was born 14 years ago. The bill was over $10,000. You listed ins premiums only. Now be realistic and add the real benefit of Medicaid. It's usually paying for mom and 1-15 kids. Dental pays at 80% and most work only 50%. Medicaid recipients don't understand the struggle of the middle class.

Does milk alone sustain you? I believe the guy who posted $800 because I feed a family every week and no $300 a month is b.s.

You got the rent part about right. Unless the woman has more than a 2br.

5120×12=$61,440. That's a lower middle class income.

$32x40=$1280 a week. Minus $300 in taxes, $40 insurance $60 in 401k. $880 is about what's left to live on. Rent here is usually a little over $1000, unless you live in a dump. I've heard of 3 section 8 women and rent was over $1000. One was coming from the landlord. One was at Honda. One my ex was trying to get away from because the two oldest kids were turning 18 and she had to move.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-august-27-2018/

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23 shot.. 2 killed

And Sunday just begun...

https://nypost.com/2018/08/23/chicago-funeral-homes-making-a-killing-off-citys-violence/

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Well, it appears business is booming for one industry in the thug infested areas

And it also appears that the funeral homes there are ripping off the tax payer who is paying for the funerals.

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CHICAGO – Predatory funeral homes have been accused of cashing in on Chicago’s relentless crime wave by taking advantage of a taxpayer-funded scheme that pays $7,500 in funeral expenses for homicide victims’ families.
Advocates have accused some funeral directors of inflating prices or charging families for services they never received.
“Every funeral home in the state knows that victims get $7,500 for a funeral and it’s their goal to charge the entire amount because it’s easy money,” Susan Johnson, executive director of Chicago Survivors, told Fox News.

This is so sad. It's a huge burden on the decent people of Chicago. The benefit should be changed to cremation only. $1500 here. It's not the victims fault but it's not the tax payers fault either. A portion of the victims live the same thug lifestyle.

Clearly these thugs need some target practice if they are only killing 10% of the people they shoot. Finding the babies daddies is something the welfare system does, however easier said then done. The momma has to give up the name (if she even knows) and then a DNA test needs to be done to prove it. As far as $300 for insurance for a month I will need to know where to get this, it more like $600+ a month and that doesn't even take into account the deductible, copays, prescriptions, and the time off work to go to the doctor. If I had the whole day off collecting welfare I would have plenty of time to cook, babysit for cash, or sit around and do drugs all day. Surly there is something we can have these people doing.

The other 90% that are shot and wounded sure do keep the hospitals busy... and the taxpayer of course pays for that as well.

Also, the welfare dept. may very well know who the baby daddy is, but chances are.. he's not working on the books,( especially gangbangers... drug money) so legally he has no money, there is nothing for them to collect. And they are not go to do any work on the books because they know the wages will be garnished.. and they are not going to let that happen.

Beating the system is sewn in generation to generation... they know full well how to work it.

it's terrible. It even goes deeper then that

If you read up on the funeral homes in those 4 areas. The first question the funeral director asks is if the victim was in a gang. If yes, then they ask for a police presence during the funeral due to the violence that can be expected ( as we saw last week when thugs shot into a crowd during a funeral)


So, now the people of Chicago also have the pay for that as well ( police presence)...because thugs are shooting people at funerals................

It's draining resources that could go to productivity in communities. The only thing I can think of to slow this problem is to offer the ghetto mom's money if they get their tubes tied and men in prison, early release if they get a vasectomy. Less kids being born into gangster families.

Back in March there was a gangbanger here in Jersey ( In Newark) that was in a shootout with cops at the tail end of a carjacking. He was shot dead.

His family raised hell that he was shot.. although he shot at the cops.(they actually said "why couldn't the cops shot bean bags"... while he shot 9mm bullet at them) Anyway. The news followed the story afterwards.

He had 7 kids by 5 different woman... he was 26..no job.. a repeat offender.. and out there in the middle of the night carjacking.

7 kids by 5 different women.. and he paid for .. none of them.

Putting this guy aside for a minute, those 5 women didn't know this guy was fathering kids all over the place?... Nah... they knew.

These women know and sometimes babysit each other's kids. Welfare has bred a large group of people that barely have any resemblance to humans.

The break down of the family has caused many kids to become criminals.
No mature adult male figure that can spend quality time with the boys.

Also many girls grow up with low morals and family values, with the absence of a Dad in the home.

Unfortunately, these young people need help and guidance Before they
Become thugs and Criminals. Once they do, they need to be arrested and removed from Society. For what ever sentence that fits Their Crimes.

IMO

you are correct.

There are things that a mother brings to the table that a father does not.. and vice a versa. Not having a father in your life does affect a kid. Having a father out there doing the wrong thing will as well. same for one in prison.. or worse.. killed in thug violent. As does having 1/2 brothers and sisters all over the place.

Isn't that why a new phase was coined " brother by another mother"... that is a baby daddy induced phase.

It will scares their life. It molds their up bring

your data is children centered, children born to wed vs unwed

my data is two fold , children centered (that infamous 70 percent number some love to regurgitate to imply something about 'morals')

AND


Adult centered, how many kids single women are having (a number less reported that indicates a single persons propensity to decide to have a child though they arent married, and tells more about 'morals')

feel free to search for a drastic change from only eight years ago, but I doubt the trends have reversed themselves ...


and I correct it myself, there does seem to be a decrease, about 5 percent for white women and about 15 percent for black women(WOW, I wonder why THAT number isn't regurgitated so often ..lol)


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2011/007.pdf 2010

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_01.pdf 2016 (latest numbers)

you should stop assuming all of the black population is defined by a few young girls you worked around and their claims ....


and like I said, if deadbeat dads are gone after, it will help in all communities, Im not sure whats not to be sure about where that is concerned.