Topic: Land of opportunity ...Hmmmm
msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 02:53 PM

The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.



Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:04 PM


The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.


Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:22 PM


United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/10/18 03:27 PM



The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.







msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:28 PM



United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:29 PM



The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.



Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:43 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 08/10/18 03:50 PM




United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/





There are plenty people ALL ages watching TV. ! You even order movies from TV. Also Dish has many channels.

Plus streaming maybe a cheaper way. Cable is Expensive.


Younger people like iPhones maybe better but they TEXT often.
Teens , parents probably pay for that.


BTW cannot people stream News !!! :smile:

no photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:55 PM














By self supporting, I mean able to pay for the things you need. No handouts.

It's not the USA place to fix other countries. You are right about making them not want to be here.


if you are so fired up about ending all of the free handouts,how about we stop giving all of these huge multi-billion dollar corporations the CORPORATE WELFARE that the republican party has made sure that they all get,and start making sure that ALL of them finally start paying their fair share of taxes,like they are supposed to!!

and,how about we stop giving all of these super wealthy people tax cuts,and start making them pay their fair share of taxes,instead of getting richer on the back of the middle class,who DIDNT receive a 2 TRILLION DOLLAR tax cut thanks to trumps tax plan.

cuz,once you start adding all of THAT up,it kind of makes the handouts that you are raising so much noise about seem like pretty small potatos!




I think we should start by not giving people a bigger tax refund than they paid in.


lol
so,when it comes to LIBERALS,and the TRULY NEEDY people that their programs help,you are willing to kick and scream about it,but when it come to REPUBLICANS,and the BILLIONAIRES they freely give TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in CORPORATE WELFARE to,,and TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS of TAX BREAKS that they DONT REALLY NEED,your position is just a weak "well,lets just START with not giving people a bigger refund check than they pay in"??

that response seems a little lopsided for someone who makes so much noise about all of the 'welfare' that people in this country get,dont you think?

cuz,its not the PEOPLE who are bleeding this country dry,it is the CORPORATIONS that don't pay their fair share of taxes,and the BILLIONAIRES who get TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in tax cuts that they neither need,or are really entitled to!


It's their money to begin with. Without the corporations we are screwed. One less breeder means nothing.


no,its not!!!!
it is THE GOVERNMENTS money!!!
and,they are NOT paying it to them like they are SUPPOSED TO BE,to be used for the benefit of the country,and since they are NOT paying their bills,then that just means that THE MIDDLE CLASS has to make it up out of THEIR/OUR money!!

you keep talking about 'breeders',who just keep having kids,and expecting someone else/the government to pay for them..
well,these huge,multi billion dollar corporations that don't pay taxes,and expect the government/US to pay them for their corporations are the corporate equivalent of the 'breeders' that you are taking about with such disdain.

so,i think that if you are so dead set against 'welfare',and social programs,then you OUGHT TO be just as dead set against CORPORATE WELFARE,too,if you are GENUINELY concerned about the economy of this country,and not just a partisian shill.

BUT,it is pretty obvious that you ARENT against CORPORATE WELFARE for multibillion dollar corporations who don't really need OUR money,just any type of social programs for people who are TRULY needy that the opposition party supports,so....

I guess that it is pretty obvious to everybody that you opinions are NOT objective,and are therefore invalid!


I'm objective. Without corporations you wouldn't have anything to eat today, a car to drive etc. They supply jobs that keep our families fed. They pay the majority of tax and a lot of them provide health insurance, 401ks, vacatuons, holidays, etc. What are you providing for your country?


so,if they are successfully doing so much for the community,why cant they afford to exist without corporate welfare,and pay their fair share of taxes,like NORMAL successful businesses have to?
[they can!!!that why they don't NEED any corporate welfare,and can afford to pay their fair share of taxes,even if it means that their top executives DONT all get multi million dollar bonuses every quarter!!]


as for what I am providing for my country??..
I served in the U.S. Navy for 20 years as an air/sea rescue aviation rescue swimmer (AIRR) and then started a career serving my community as a firefighter,after I retired from active service.

what have YOU done to serve or provide anything for your country,or community?







Explains why you don't know **** about business and now struggling. The military has great benefits and they will get you out of jail for work the next day. But once it's over you have to figure out how to provide the things you were use to getting for free. Let me offer some advice. Stop complaining and go to Wal-Mart and apply. If that doesn't appeal to you, go in business for yourself. But for God sakes, stop complaining about what somebody else should give you.

so,in other words,you haven't done ANYTHING to serve,or provide for your country? lol

[spending ALL DAY online ranting about how the people who need help because the superwealthy 1% dont want to pay their fair share of taxes,and don't even want to pay their employees a fair,living wage are running THE REST of the country into the ground,and complaining about how the 'bleeding heart liberals' who are trying to save the rest of the country from the greedy multibillionaires who are lining their pockets at their expense should all be kicked out of the country DOESNT count as serving your country!]


Two years ago when my son in law got out of the military, I gave him and my daughter a free home to raise my grandkids in.

I paid for that home working for the corporations you are complaining about. They gave me and my family a decent living. I was able to work as much as I wanted and put that money in investments.

I start a new job Monday. It has great benefits and nice pay. The people crying about healthcare and foodstamps need to apply. Lots of places hiring. The recession is over.

One thing I've learned about working for myself is you don't get all the benefits the corporations provide. Starting Monday, I will have medical, dental, and vision. I know that doesn't mean much to the breeders. Medicaid takes care of them. But it means a lot to productive members of society.


so,you claim that 'breeders' are worthless and harmful to society because they have to take handouts,and need help to be able to afford to raise their children??

and,you also say that you gave your son in law,and daughter the handout of a free house to help them out so that he would have a place to raise his children???


hhhmmmm.....?????


? I did the same thing. Purchased a starter house for my son and daughter in law to raise their family in. Stared them off. The key word being.. started... not carried. That is what hard working parents do.. they help their kids get started. Then their kids do the same with theirs.





that is true, for hard working parents with MONEY to 'start them off', other hard working parents are doing well to keep things together to have resources or wealth to 'start off' their kids.

those kids with a network (besides taxpayers) to 'start them off' have a starting advantage. That is a blessing. But not one that is present in most underserved communities or households that end up needing taxpayer assistance.


Do you think I was born with money?.. inherited money? come from money? was 1 of 8 kids, blue collar and my father died early in life. and we were ... poor. And we lived in a poor neighborhood in NYC. No college.. no time for that.. we all went to WORK.

I, like millions and millions went out and WORKED our way out of poverty. From the bottom. This in order to TAKE CARE of what we created and to BREAK THE CYCELE

And yes, I purchased a starter house for my son and gave my other the down payment for his. And one has graduated already from college and the other will in next spring.. with a masters in his field.

that is how you break the cycle... work hard.. take care of your family and teach your kids to do better then you did. Because then they do that with THIER kids... cycle broken.

A lost art with some.. The LAZY ones. The ones who have no intension of breaking the cycle... never did.

shovelheaddave's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:57 PM

UNHCR

#800.........

Is advertised on TV to help illegal immigrants children!

So there is something being done to help the poor coming to this Country.

Surely All those for illegal immigrants crossing the US boarders are. the First

To call and send money to help!



A LOT of those 'illegal' immigrant children you are talking about came here legally,seeking asylum,and were illegally detained,illegally seperated from their parents,and illegally denied the right to legally seek asylum by jeff sessions,and donald trump,so,exactly WHO do you think that means the real criminals actually are??

Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:58 PM




The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:10 PM





United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/





There are plenty people ALL ages watching TV. ! You even order movies from TV. Also Dish has many channels.

Plus streaming maybe a cheaper way. Cable is Expensive.


Younger people like iPhones maybe better but they TEXT often.
Teens , parents probably pay for that.


BTW cannot people stream News !!! :smile:


I put up the numbers already. most 19-29 year olds are NOT watching TV. and yes, you can stream just about anything.

and gaming systems and phones which now allow streaming services are much more popular with the young than sitting in front of a box watching commercials.



msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:13 PM





The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:


If they grew up and went to school and developed relationships here, this IS their home. so long as there is an adult here who will sponsor their stay, they should have options besides ONLY deportation.



no photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:37 PM




United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/


You cheery picked out one age group.. the highest percentage group to make the argument look good.. When you add in the other age groups the overall average is 28%

28%https://decider.com/2017/09/26/quarter-of-americans-stream-tv/



Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:46 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 08/10/18 04:47 PM






United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/





There are plenty people ALL ages watching TV. ! You even order movies from TV. Also Dish has many channels.

Plus streaming maybe a cheaper way. Cable is Expensive.


Younger people like iPhones maybe better but they TEXT often.
Teens , parents probably pay for that.


BTW cannot people stream News !!! :smile:


I put up the numbers already. most 19-29 year olds are NOT watching TV. and yes, you can stream just about anything.

and gaming systems and phones which now allow streaming services are much more popular with the young than sitting in front of a box watching commercials.






:smile: Yes I have noticed. Many of your Numbers on many Topics!

Can't say they are CORRECT though.


Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:50 PM






The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for

humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:


If they grew up and went to school and developed relationships here, this IS their home. so long as there is an adult here who will sponsor their stay, they should have options besides ONLY deportation.






As they commit crimes, they are being sent back.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 05:36 PM





United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/


You cheery picked out one age group.. the highest percentage group to make the argument look good.. When you add in the other age groups the overall average is 28%

28%https://decider.com/2017/09/26/quarter-of-americans-stream-tv/





I didnt cherry pick. I posted what I meant. Alot of people are now using streaming and not watching TV, particularly those ages 18-49 who I imagine would be those looking for work.



msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 05:38 PM







United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Google it!

It's all on tv. They should be getting thousands $$$$. All the supporters out there in US.





alot more people dont watch TV anymore. So I did have to google it.

Kudos to them doing good work in 128 countries for almost 70 years now.




The people I know watch TV. Even my 91,yr old Auntie !!! :smile:


I have alot of younger people in my family, none of them watch TV ,they all use streaming. I happen to only use streaming myself

About six-in-ten of those ages 18 to 29 (61%) say the primary way they watch television now is with streaming services on the internet, compared with 31% who say they mostly watch via a cable or satellite subscription and 5% who mainly watch with a digital antenna, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in August.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/13/about-6-in-10-young-adults-in-u-s-primarily-use-online-streaming-to-watch-tv/





There are plenty people ALL ages watching TV. ! You even order movies from TV. Also Dish has many channels.

Plus streaming maybe a cheaper way. Cable is Expensive.


Younger people like iPhones maybe better but they TEXT often.
Teens , parents probably pay for that.


BTW cannot people stream News !!! :smile:


I put up the numbers already. most 19-29 year olds are NOT watching TV. and yes, you can stream just about anything.

and gaming systems and phones which now allow streaming services are much more popular with the young than sitting in front of a box watching commercials.






:smile: Yes I have noticed. Many of your Numbers on many Topics!

Can't say they are CORRECT though.




only as much or more as random unsupported numbers and opinions in any thread ...

but at least there is a relevant source by which to verify the information

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 05:39 PM







The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for

humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:


If they grew up and went to school and developed relationships here, this IS their home. so long as there is an adult here who will sponsor their stay, they should have options besides ONLY deportation.






As they commit crimes, they are being sent back.


If they commit crimes, they should be

if there only crime was an ADULT brought them here, they should have an option for sponsorship

Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 05:42 PM








The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for

humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:


If they grew up and went to school and developed relationships here, this IS their home. so long as there is an adult here who will sponsor their stay, they should have options besides ONLY deportation.






As they commit crimes, they are being sent back.


If they commit crimes, they should be

if there only crime was an ADULT brought them here, they should have an option for sponsorship




Says who? The people who aren't paying taxes and covering all the freebies they get? Yeah right. That's why Trump won and the lazy lefties lost.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 06:13 PM









The ones for illegal immigration aren't even taking care of their own kids. They defiantly won't help take care of somebody else's.


I dont know anyone 'for illegal immigration'. thats like saying those that oppose death penalty are therefore 'for crime' or those who oppose abortion are 'for child abuse'

people are for

humane consequences and treatments that can arise from broken laws or policies.

All those people who crossed the border are here illegally. The people crying for them to stay on our welfare system, are for illegal immigration.




not really. thats like saying people should be for a kid going to jail because their parent put merchandise in the kids coat to get it out the store. the CHILDREN Have no say or complicity in the crime. They should not be treated as the adults who did.





They aren't trying to send them to jail. They are sending them home. Geeze liberals. :unamused:


If they grew up and went to school and developed relationships here, this IS their home. so long as there is an adult here who will sponsor their stay, they should have options besides ONLY deportation.






As they commit crimes, they are being sent back.


If they commit crimes, they should be

if there only crime was an ADULT brought them here, they should have an option for sponsorship




Says who? The people who aren't paying taxes and covering all the freebies they get? Yeah right. That's why Trump won and the lazy lefties lost.


thats really an obsession isnt it?

yes, there are people on both sides of the immigrant debate who 'arent paying taxes' (including Trump ...lol) and who get 'freebies' (can you say government subsidy?)

Trump won because enough people dislike or hate the same people he appeared to dislike or hate and because the corrupt politician vs honest businessman scam was so well played.