SOME folks on here seem to want iron clad proof that God exists. here is some indirect evidence/ observations from yours truly.
Mankind had a bad habit of thinking they know all, citing our scientific achievments, ect, but what i see is a society that is in chaos even on a good day. How many people were murdered this year? raped? robbed? asulted? How many starved to death or were abused or tortured? How many wars? If we are so smart, to the point of being smarter than God, Wouldent we have all these things handled? The whole point of the bibble in my opinion is that we cant run this place without following Gods laws. When we deviate, we fall. He gives us a perfect plan, which we have repedly failed to follow to our detriment. To those who would believe that we are beyond God, i say look around.

Amen!!! Good for you for posting this. I feel so sorry for those who do not believe! By the time they realize that God exists and Loves them unconditionally it will be too late....
He does exist and there is proof just read the bible. The things that he said were going to happen already are.................

I believe in God and I don't have to see Him, Her or It to know it works in my life. Something in my life is working and I call it God. Any power greater than myself that has kept me sober the last 15-1/2 yrs lets me know there is something out there and on my side. But this is only my experience.

yup what they said.

Almost every other person that comes in here for the side of logic and the beuty of pure science is going to point out one big idea. The people who believe that they have the true book of truth that gets them in with God and they are willing to die for that, even kill. Those people are causing the problems you mention. If your God really exist then we are all doomed even you.

wow whats that sapose to mean, your saying us who belive are the ones killing people raping and all that other stuff.... wow u are really lost and the book...well u can read that book all u want u could even memorize it but it wouldnt mean its gona help, u got to belive and why be so set on that he dont exist i mean hey ur in religion chat but hey just my opinon.

I always wonder - What if God was one of us? Just a slob, like one of us? Just a stranger on the bus, trying to make his way home?

tell me all your thoughts on God cause id really like to meet her...

actually, siheib, God is our only hope. its this falling away that will be your doom. (not mine)

yup.

He did get thrown under the bus.

As well as all of us who believe he did, get thrown under the bus too.

But pain is familiar to me and not something I fear.

The wrath of God is a frightening concept, and not one I take lightly at all.

Not me. There have been good things that have happened in my life, which I know God was in charge of. Plus, He's always there for me during the hardest times as well.

Silly gypsy!!! God's not a 'her'...the Bible says he's a MAN! hehe

"you dont realize God is all you need, untill he is all you have."
Corrie Ten Boom, survived Nazi war camp

The ever so famous, "there are no athiests in foxholes'" Iv experienced this one in person. Most of us go through life with a "general belief" that God exsists, but untill we are tested to the limits do we ever trust.

i hope there is a god but i think we need to learn to help ourselves more and have more faith in what we are, what we are capable of and the strength within ourselves

the bible says lots of things im not inclined to completely believe. I believe in Dishwalla! besides didn't you see Dogma??

good point, gypsy...plus - Allanis is a god all on her own...jeez, I love that woman.

debbiet, the whole point im making here is that we cant do it without his (yes, his) guidance. we have already proven ourselves a lousy steward of this planet. in time we will destroy it and ourselves if left alone. mabe a new plan(which is the same plan he outlines in the book so it really isnt a new plan at all) is in order.

i agree, Alanis, she is sexy! shed make a strait woman think crooked.:P

awww what no more?

I respect your resolve, but hard evidence is much to the contrary of the story of christianity, judaism, islam, buddhism, or any other religion. The proof that organisms evolve, the geological evidence that shows the world is much older than any creation story, and the pure expansiveness of the universe, in my opinion, greatly suggests that years of scientific reasearch are not wrong.

Furthermore, I would say that the disorder and chaos of society doesn't prove the existance of a supreme being, but rather challenges the notion of a loving God who instils order in his creation.

I know there's no arguing with the religious sect, because we don't share the same logic. I tend to believe that when every area of study points to the same thing, it's probably true, and that if it doesn't make sense, it's probably not true. The religious groups' logic tends to be more along the lines of 'Yeah, but God can do anything.' I would liken this argument to debating a 2nd grader who's response to everything is 'I know you are, but what am I?'

To quote Stephen Hawking, "The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired." It's my opinion that if it is in fact divinely inspired, the deity of reality isn't the God of the world's religions.

So, sir, I must respectfully disagree.