Yet this is precisely what Christianity does!

It points to the 1% of people who are committing violent crimes and then starts screaming that all men are inherently evil and need to repent!

By your own standards it’s an unfair religion.

Not all men actually commit murder, most people feel hate, lust, covet and lie. You are comparing apples to oranges. Man's laws != God's laws.

um i don't really think that claim is valid. where did you hear that load? where is the information that says atheist governments killed more people than any other means combined? cause im pretty sure there is no body count for any one of the crusades, (there were a few of them) and what about the 9 million killed in during the burning times, are we including the Spanish inquisition, how about the conquistadors, the Armenian genocide. I wasn't limiting the travesties to Christians either, cause there are many more under the header of religion shall i continue?

I don't believe you.

You're just making that up.

I don't feel those things.

Surely I'm not all that special.

awww i think your special,

Well, that settles it then.

I was born on the wrong planet!

hmmm i wasn't cause i lust(boy do i) covet, been known to lie a time or too and i hate W. does that count? i guess im human after all

Well, it looks like we're going to have to take you into the spanking room and spank the rest of the confessions out of you.

I guess some people really do need to be "saved"

Save me!!!

You naughty naughty girl!

i try
hey did we hijack this thread???

Guiness Book of World Records.

The number is around 150 million, that's not including many of the small states which only killed 2-3 million.



The Crusades don't count. The crusades were terrible, but without the Crusades, you would be a Muslim. The Muslims had already forcably taken 2/3's of the Christian world. The Middle East was almost entirely Christian prior to Jihad. The Crusades are the only reason you are not Muslim. You should be thankful for the crusades, while we all regret the excesses of the Crusades. In short, the Crusades were started as a defensive war and should not count as "Christian agression".



You just lost all crediblity. Wicca and all the "old" relgions are new. They are no more than 100 years old. That "Burning Times" crap is just that, crap. We have the documents from the Inquisition, we know that they executed less than 5,000 people, some of them in effigy.



The Armenian genocide was Muslims killing Christians...not sure why you bring it up.



The actions of other religions in no way reflects on Christianity.

Spider you say the crusade were Good because otherwise we would be under Muslims. What makes you think your fanatic religion is any better then theirs? You are all misguided. I fear all religion the only good place to be would be out from under all of you.

The only way you could think that is if you don't understand anything about Islam. You should educate yourself. You will find that having someone say "Jesus loves you" isn't quite as bad as a woman being stoned to death by a crowd because she was raped. Just a little difference there...

I lost all credibility?? hahahahahahahahaha,
how is it that the crusades donot count, and if you wanted to sound half way educated you would learn more about the Islamic faith, not all women are treated badly in Islam, Not all Muslims are tyrannical murderers, you just made a gross generalization, and ummm i don't believe that i said Wicca was an ancient religion, that would be false, wicca is a religion based on ancient beliefs of northen Europeans for the most part. but just because they weren't united under the banner of one religion doesn't mean that the people who were killed by Christian persecution in the middle ages don't count. Forgive me if i mixed up my religious victims, i thought by adding the disclaimer at the end of my statement that not all religious wars were perpetrated my Christians cleared this little mater up, but then again i guess i shouldn't expect too much from someone who believes that 9million people don't count a victims of religious persecution. before you tell someone else to learn something you should take your own advice.

For the guy who posted the very untrue statment about foxholes.I copied this from a website. These are not my words. Look on the net and ye shall find--

.....have they ever even been in one? I come from a military family. Dad, father in laws, grandfathers, husband (disabled vet in war time), two brother in laws....I grew up with it and around it. And I can tell you, that foxholes make atheist far more then they make Christians. Why are people so convinced there are no atheist in foxholes? My husband said it only reinforced his atheism.

RIF.

9 million weren't killed. There are no facts to support that number. The documents from the Inquisition show less than 5,000 executions. I'm not excusing them, but you are hyper-inflating them.

I know a lot about Islamic faith. I know that the some women are treated quite well. But I also know that in many Islamic countries, women are executed for being raped. Iran for example. No Islamic country has any laws that outlaw Honor killings. Honor killings are considered a family matter, the deaths are ruled as "natural causes". So if you want to live under Sharia and have to wear a Hibjab (or Burka) and always have to be afraid that a male family member will shame the family and they will kill you to excise the shame...be my guest.

The Crusades don't count. The crusades were terrible, but without the Crusades, you would be a Muslim. The Muslims had already forcably taken 2/3's of the Christian world. The Middle East was almost entirely Christian prior to Jihad. The Crusades are the only reason you are not Muslim. You should be thankful for the crusades, while we all regret the excesses of the Crusades. In short, the Crusades were started as a defensive war and should not count as "Christian agression".

if you want to know more about the treatment of women in Islam
http://muslim-canada.org/judeochristian.htm
remember the ill treatment of women is not limited to Islam.

So all historians are liars. Even the atheist ones?

It doesn't matter what Christians believe about Jihad, what matter is that 100 million Muslims think that it means they should take the world for Islam. 100 million Muslims believe that Jihad gives them the right to kill women and children to acheive their goals. That's what matters.