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Edited by
mightymoe
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or ... whats the point of getting a job that's not gonna pay you what you need to maintain a job and basic needs ? It helps the employer's bottom line but does next to squat for you. This country wasn't built on people sitting on their collective azzes, it was built on blood sweat and tears of hard working individuals who have put out more than they took... |
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if you look back people move in and out of the 1% , people move in and out of the Upper middle class, people move in and out of the working class and people move in and out of poverty. there are many who have moved out of poverty and yes there are inter-generation of poor people. here is the reality there will always be poor people, why? because there are some people who will never flourish because its not in their DNA, poverty is the default nature of mankind. Its just some of us doesn't have a desire to be poor.  Many liberals never see that!!! |
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or ... whats the point of getting a job that's not gonna pay you what you need to maintain a job and basic needs ? It helps the employer's bottom line but does next to squat for you. This country wasn't built on people sitting on their collective azzes, it was built on blood sweat and tears of hard working individuals who have put out more than they took... some people find 'self respect' merely by having the employed label, others find it in actually looking after their kids ... this country was built on plenty of people 'sitting on their *****' and intimidating OTHERS into using blood, sweat, and tears to make their own pockets fatter ...lol it was also built with men who worked with families and wages that allowed mothers to be home and take care of said families WHILE men earned financial needs ... now the culture tells women they have to be doing it ALL by themself or they have no 'self respect' ... 
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or ... whats the point of getting a job that's not gonna pay you what you need to maintain a job and basic needs ? It helps the employer's bottom line but does next to squat for you. This country wasn't built on people sitting on their collective azzes, it was built on blood sweat and tears of hard working individuals who have put out more than they took...
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some people find 'self respect' merely by having the employed label, others find it in actually looking after their kids ... this country was built on plenty of people 'sitting on their *****' and intimidating OTHERS into using blood, sweat, and tears to make their own pockets fatter ...lol you mean people like Westinghouse, Rockafeller that risked their own capital and borrowed capital to start business that the working class didnt have the skill or guts to start? it was also built with men who worked with families and wages that allowed mothers to be home and take care of said families WHILE men earned financial needs ... now the culture tells women they have to be doing it ALL by themself or they have no 'self respect' ... NO NO NO, you cant have it both ways, your feminists sisters with their bra and panty burning protest demanded that women have the choice to either stay home and raise kids or work Governments caved into the feminists demands and now you dont like it? how many feminists out there that tells women you dont need a man for anything, not even to procreate, telling them that single motherhood is fine and dandy and honourable. And look what we have now? Now when I say single mothers I dont mean women who are widowed with kids, or women that left their abusive scumbag husband, or those that had a partner pick up and leave because they were pregnant. I'm talking about the single woman who chooses to get pregnant and believes that the state can be financial daddy and is irresponsible. |
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some people find 'self respect' merely by having the employed label, others find it in actually looking after their kids ... this country was built on plenty of people 'sitting on their *****' and intimidating OTHERS into using blood, sweat, and tears to make their own pockets fatter ...lol you mean people like Westinghouse, Rockafeller that risked their own capital and borrowed capital to start business that the working class didnt have the skill or guts to start? it was also built with men who worked with families and wages that allowed mothers to be home and take care of said families WHILE men earned financial needs ... now the culture tells women they have to be doing it ALL by themself or they have no 'self respect' ... NO NO NO, you cant have it both ways, your feminists sisters with their bra and panty burning protest demanded that women have the choice to either stay home and raise kids or work Governments caved into the feminists demands and now you dont like it? how many feminists out there that tells women you dont need a man for anything, not even to procreate, telling them that single motherhood is fine and dandy and honourable. And look what we have now? Now when I say single mothers I dont mean women who are widowed with kids, or women that left their abusive scumbag husband, or those that had a partner pick up and leave because they were pregnant. I'm talking about the single woman who chooses to get pregnant and believes that the state can be financial daddy and is irresponsible. Im not one of those 'feminists'. And a woman ignorant enough to have a child with the expectation of being supported by government is irresponsible, however, until women feel comfortable having the government researching their intentions and motivations for getting pregnant, not much can be done about that. |
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Im not one of those 'feminists'. And a woman ignorant enough to have a child with the expectation of being supported by government is irresponsible, however, until women feel comfortable having the government researching their intentions and motivations for getting pregnant, not much can be done about that. Good for you , but many are like that, look at the single mother numbers in the black community its hovering around 75% its almost 60% in poor white Appalachian, Im not sure what the numbers is for Hispanics and Whites. |
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Im not one of those 'feminists'. And a woman ignorant enough to have a child with the expectation of being supported by government is irresponsible, however, until women feel comfortable having the government researching their intentions and motivations for getting pregnant, not much can be done about that. Good for you , but many are like that, look at the single mother numbers in the black community its hovering around 75% its almost 60% in poor white Appalachian, Im not sure what the numbers is for Hispanics and Whites. |
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Im not one of those 'feminists'. And a woman ignorant enough to have a child with the expectation of being supported by government is irresponsible, however, until women feel comfortable having the government researching their intentions and motivations for getting pregnant, not much can be done about that. Good for you , but many are like that, look at the single mother numbers in the black community its hovering around 75% its almost 60% in poor white Appalachian, Im not sure what the numbers is for Hispanics and Whites. Im not sure the single mother cases are because of ignorant women who were expecting to be supported by government. We have to remember single mother is often only a legal class of married or unmarried. many unmarried couples are still co parents with their children. |
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why do you play these games miss harmony? you perfectly know what Im talking about when I mention single moms.
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why do you play these games miss harmony? you perfectly know what Im talking about when I mention single moms. Im actually not up on my mind reading skills. I inferred from the comment 'many are like that' it was a reference to the previous description of ignorant women getting pregnant with an expectation to have government support. and the reference to the single mother rate immediately after as an example supporting that description. so I pointed out that the two may have slim to no relation. |
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mind reading skills, wow the sarcasm is strong with this one. okay then.
Like I said those that are irresponsible and wants a cheque from the government make up most of the single mother from teens to the ones who grew up poor and figured this is an easy way of getting money vs working. And you cannot deny that there are women like that out there, the bottom line is Welfare has made it easier for some and some abuses the system which it was designed to help those in dire straits. Today, Welfare has become an option vs a last resort as it was meant for. Before the government financial generosity , the Communities, the Church and the Rich was there to help out the poor and since government has taken over that role look what we have now. If you look at the poster Easttowest story about some women on welfare going on a cruise. Going on a cruise while she is on welfare. Enough said there. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 06/12/18 01:46 PM
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Like I said those that are irresponsible and wants a cheque from the government make up most of the single mother from teens to the ones who grew up poor and figured this is an easy way of getting money vs working.
talking about cynical things to say, of course its PURELY opinion with no backing facts or data, right? who cares if someone on welfare goes on a cruise? exactly how much recreation and relaxing is someone poor permitted? Should they NEVER see a movie? should they NEVER go out of town for the weekend? Should they NEVER use a cell phone? Who is dictating that being poor should mean one ONLY works and struggles 24/7 ? Do you know they spend 'taxpayer' money for that cruise, or that weekend? Could they have been treated or saved up when they were working and already scheduled it? Why are people so up in the lives of what other people choose to do for 'play'? I dont care what financial status one has, all work and no play is unhealthy on many levels. |
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Like I said those that are irresponsible and wants a cheque from the government make up most of the single mother from teens to the ones who grew up poor and figured this is an easy way of getting money vs working. talking about cynical things to say, of course its PURELY opinion with no backing facts or data, right? is there a high divorce rate in the black community among teens? what were my sources https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by#detailed/1/any/false/867,133,38,35,18/10,9,12,1,185,13/432,431 and https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_23/sr23_031.pdf (page 2 and 3) looks like lots of teenage and unwed moms to me  |
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Like I said those that are irresponsible and wants a cheque from the government make up most of the single mother from teens to the ones who grew up poor and figured this is an easy way of getting money vs working. talking about cynical things to say, of course its PURELY opinion with no backing facts or data, right? is there a high divorce rate in the black community among teens? what were my sources https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by#detailed/1/any/false/867,133,38,35,18/10,9,12,1,185,13/432,431 and https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_23/sr23_031.pdf (page 2 and 3) looks like lots of teenage and unwed moms to me except that wasnt the question. how many unwed mothers there are is not an answer to WHY they had children ... |
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I think when a woman goes in to have her second baby on welfare, she should be required to get her tubes tied. It's clear by then that she isn't responsible enough to make her own decisions and it isn't fair to tax payers.
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except that wasnt the question. how many unwed mothers there are is not an answer to WHY they had children ...  why does it matter why they had children? I just gave you the stats backing up my claim 2) They are having children out of wedlock, why they are having them is irrelevant. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 06/12/18 02:19 PM
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I think when a woman goes in to have her second baby on welfare, she should be required to get her tubes tied. It's clear by then that she isn't responsible enough to make her own decisions and it isn't fair to tax payers. people kill me, it doesnt make anything 'clear'. How do you know each woman's situation? How do you know that the father didnt leave after the pregnancy? How do you know they didnt JUST lose a job? its not 'fair' to taxpayers who are against war to pay for the military, its not 'fair' to taxpayers who have no health issues to pay for medicare and medicaid, its not 'fair' for taxpayers opposed to any number of things, to still have to pay for the grants and moneys that get invested into them. But since they cant take personal polls and seperate everyone's individual taxes for their preferred causes, they set up these funds for things that will be in the general welfare of the country. |
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except that wasnt the question. how many unwed mothers there are is not an answer to WHY they had children ... why does it matter why they had children? I just gave you the stats backing up my claim 2) They are having children out of wedlock, why they are having them is irrelevant. oh man, the original statement I disagreed with was this one: Like I said those that are irresponsible and wants a cheque from the government make up most of the single mother from teens to the ones who grew up poor and figured this is an easy way of getting money vs working. I asked where there was information backing up THAT claim, not about information proving that unwed mothers exist. |
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Do you understand the words that I'm typing?
I'm pretty sure I speak pretty good English, I know I'm in Canada and we spell certain words differently but unwed means not married right? and I did provide stats backing that up , its called proof or evidence. Can you not put 2 and 2 together? Teenage unwed mothers, NO JOB Unwed females in their 20's NO JOB No job, No man, no financial support, where else would they get their money assuming they are not doing illegal activities. A lot of them would rather stay home and make more babies to collect a cheque, they know the system they are not stupid, so why would they work? And how is it our fault that they dont have a job when they dont want to work? Is that clearer now or am I speaking in Swahili with a Canadian accent? |
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