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Sure we all have principles, sometimes to protect ourselves from future disappointments. But for me, principles are there to be broken, because they can prevent us from making new and better experiences.
What is your thoughts about it? Thanks |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Sat 04/21/18 05:54 PM
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Principles are my values and that can not be broken. I can compromise to a point but a very little.
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Edited by
markc48
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Sat 04/21/18 05:58 PM
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Some things are harder to fix than others.
And some things can never be fixed. |
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My principles are my own. For me.
I draw the line at demanding anyone else match them. And vice versa. I would not have someone who expected me to match their standards. |
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Principle when meant as a rule is most of the time broken specially when breaking it brings us convenience or satisfaction. A diet for example? IMO what prevents us from future life experiences is fear specially when it stems from our past and how it affected us then. I have so much admiration for people who doesn’t let their past cloud their decisions of the future. They are not afraid of the possibility of getting hurt again . They have such resilient hearts mine is resilient but does not lose the scars.
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In response to Sceptical's comment, I forgive easily, even when I would rather not!!! Grrr It's my nature and it keeps me emotionally healthy. As far as the past, I naturally just learn to move on and start fresh, even after suffering great pain. The heart and the person needs to be fearless in order to live and love again. As far as principles, one needs to be tough in order to demonstrate strength. If we keep breaking our own rules, that shows weakness of character. Don't be a chump. Stick to your principles.
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Principles are the foundation and basis through which I live life, they do not change. Principles in general can be compromised, but I try hard not to allow or invite those situations into
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Edited by
IgorFrankensteen
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Sun 04/22/18 03:54 AM
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Looks like a confusion of terms going on here. That, or and/or a confusion of the most fundamental concept of human life itself.
If your principles are there to be broken, then they aren't your principles. Calling them that, is just confusing you. Perhaps you went through the usual childhood stage of being taught general principles that others before you established or borrowed, but you never got around to working out a set of principles for yourself. Your principles are what your life is about. They are what guides you, and makes you who and what you are, or are not. So whatever it is that you are "breaking because they get in the way of new experiences," are not, and never were YOUR PRINCIPLES. In fact, you've accidentally stated some of your real principles, by claiming to have none, in this way. Since they are expressed more as "anti-principles," they are a bit vague, but they are there, nevertheless. You have a principle that has something to do with ignoring convention and challenging mores and perceived social rule sets, for example. Since you've only gone as far as to say what you WONT limit yourself to, you haven't defined what you actually are, but it's a start. I myself worked directly on first discovering, and then arranging as much of my life around my own principles as I could manage. They are what make me feel that I am on the right track, whether I am immediately enjoying myself or not; and they are what help me to see the world around me very clearly, despite the constant efforts by so many, to disguise it and lie about it for their own benefits. |
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Sure we all have principles, sometimes to protect ourselves from future disappointments. But for me, principles are there to be broken, because they can prevent us from making new and better experiences. What is your thoughts about it? Thanks Humour me and have a look at these principles http://healthcareassociates.net/50-timeless-principles/ Plenty of principles that actually support you to be more open and get out of your comfort-zone. Principles are there for a reason. Because you learnt that they indeed serve and support you. If they don't wouldn't you automatically adjust them? |
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Principle when meant as a rule is most of the time broken specially when breaking it brings us convenience or satisfaction. A diet for example? IMO what prevents us from future life experiences is fear specially when it stems from our past and how it affected us then. I have so much admiration for people who doesn’t let their past cloud their decisions of the future. They are not afraid of the possibility of getting hurt again . They have such resilient hearts mine is resilient but does not lose the scars. Life experiences are a learning process. For example, we get hurt by a person, and we learn, never to mix with that type of people again. But it should not stop us from mixing with people as such. We might still learn, that we are able to find someone, who won't hurt us ... or simply to be found, if we leave a door to our heart open. Then we learn that we deserve to be loved and valued. |
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Looks like a confusion of terms going on here. That, or and/or a confusion of the most fundamental concept of human life itself. If your principles are there to be broken, then they aren't your principles. Calling them that, is just confusing you. Perhaps you went through the usual childhood stage of being taught general principles that others before you established or borrowed, but you never got around to working out a set of principles for yourself. Your principles are what your life is about. They are what guides you, and makes you who and what you are, or are not. So whatever it is that you are "breaking because they get in the way of new experiences," are not, and never were YOUR PRINCIPLES. In fact, you've accidentally stated some of your real principles, by claiming to have none, in this way. Since they are expressed more as "anti-principles," they are a bit vague, but they are there, nevertheless. You have a principle that has something to do with ignoring convention and challenging mores and perceived social rule sets, for example. Since you've only gone as far as to say what you WONT limit yourself to, you haven't defined what you actually are, but it's a start. I myself worked directly on first discovering, and then arranging as much of my life around my own principles as I could manage. They are what make me feel that I am on the right track, whether I am immediately enjoying myself or not; and they are what help me to see the world around me very clearly, despite the constant efforts by so many, to disguise it and lie about it for their own benefits. Every principle you have, is your own, because it is based on your own experiences. But still, it can be replaced by another principle, as we are undergoing changes in life all the time. As long as we have the choice to choose and change our principles, it is fine with me. |
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Looks like a confusion of terms going on here. That, or and/or a confusion of the most fundamental concept of human life itself. If your principles are there to be broken, then they aren't your principles. Calling them that, is just confusing you. Perhaps you went through the usual childhood stage of being taught general principles that others before you established or borrowed, but you never got around to working out a set of principles for yourself. Your principles are what your life is about. They are what guides you, and makes you who and what you are, or are not. So whatever it is that you are "breaking because they get in the way of new experiences," are not, and never were YOUR PRINCIPLES. In fact, you've accidentally stated some of your real principles, by claiming to have none, in this way. Since they are expressed more as "anti-principles," they are a bit vague, but they are there, nevertheless. You have a principle that has something to do with ignoring convention and challenging mores and perceived social rule sets, for example. Since you've only gone as far as to say what you WONT limit yourself to, you haven't defined what you actually are, but it's a start. I myself worked directly on first discovering, and then arranging as much of my life around my own principles as I could manage. They are what make me feel that I am on the right track, whether I am immediately enjoying myself or not; and they are what help me to see the world around me very clearly, despite the constant efforts by so many, to disguise it and lie about it for their own benefits. Every principle you have, is your own, because it is based on your own experiences. But still, it can be replaced by another principle, as we are undergoing changes in life all the time. As long as we have the choice to choose and change our principles, it is fine with me. Personally, I think you're both right, more or less. Myself, I don't pay attention to my principles because I am alone 95% of the time. The 5% is when I am out and exposed to strangers that don't notice me, I'm essentially invisible. I have principles, I just never have them tested anymore so they are not on my mind. The last time I actively examined my principles I did change some of them to better reflect the wisdom experience gave me. The last significant change was when I figured out that I don't need to live up to anyone else's expectations and I should not assign expectation on anybody else. Basically, "I'll be me and you be you". This freed me from having to do things I don't want to do just so I can be accepted and freed me from having animosity and resentment towards others that didn't live up to my expectations. I also have no expectations of life. To me, now, life is just life...existing. By not expecting life to be a certain way, good or bad, I find I have a certain peace and contentment I never had in my younger years. I also no longer worry. I act when I can and if there is nothing I can do about it right now, I let the worry go. This doesn't mean I am unaware, just decisive. I'm not saying I'll never change my principles again but if and when I do change them it will be because I decided to and not because they don't fit with what others think I should or shouldn't value. The fuzz on the peach is that I don't really care what others think of me. I live my life and set my own values because It's My Life. |
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Looks like a confusion of terms going on here. That, or and/or a confusion of the most fundamental concept of human life itself. If your principles are there to be broken, then they aren't your principles. Calling them that, is just confusing you. Perhaps you went through the usual childhood stage of being taught general principles that others before you established or borrowed, but you never got around to working out a set of principles for yourself. Your principles are what your life is about. They are what guides you, and makes you who and what you are, or are not. So whatever it is that you are "breaking because they get in the way of new experiences," are not, and never were YOUR PRINCIPLES. In fact, you've accidentally stated some of your real principles, by claiming to have none, in this way. Since they are expressed more as "anti-principles," they are a bit vague, but they are there, nevertheless. You have a principle that has something to do with ignoring convention and challenging mores and perceived social rule sets, for example. Since you've only gone as far as to say what you WONT limit yourself to, you haven't defined what you actually are, but it's a start. I myself worked directly on first discovering, and then arranging as much of my life around my own principles as I could manage. They are what make me feel that I am on the right track, whether I am immediately enjoying myself or not; and they are what help me to see the world around me very clearly, despite the constant efforts by so many, to disguise it and lie about it for their own benefits. Every principle you have, is your own, because it is based on your own experiences. But still, it can be replaced by another principle, as we are undergoing changes in life all the time. As long as we have the choice to choose and change our principles, it is fine with me. Personally, I think you're both right, more or less. Myself, I don't pay attention to my principles because I am alone 95% of the time. The 5% is when I am out and exposed to strangers that don't notice me, I'm essentially invisible. I have principles, I just never have them tested anymore so they are not on my mind. The last time I actively examined my principles I did change some of them to better reflect the wisdom experience gave me. The last significant change was when I figured out that I don't need to live up to anyone else's expectations and I should not assign expectation on anybody else. Basically, "I'll be me and you be you". This freed me from having to do things I don't want to do just so I can be accepted and freed me from having animosity and resentment towards others that didn't live up to my expectations. I also have no expectations of life. To me, now, life is just life...existing. By not expecting life to be a certain way, good or bad, I find I have a certain peace and contentment I never had in my younger years. I also no longer worry. I act when I can and if there is nothing I can do about it right now, I let the worry go. This doesn't mean I am unaware, just decisive. I'm not saying I'll never change my principles again but if and when I do change them it will be because I decided to and not because they don't fit with what others think I should or shouldn't value. The fuzz on the peach is that I don't really care what others think of me. I live my life and set my own values because It's My Life. A very interesting input. As for me, it is not important to me, what others around me think of me. As long as they don't interfere, it's okay. Though I have a handful of people, who I care about, I don't want to upset them, and I think, it goes both ways. |
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principles are there to be broken, because they can prevent us from making new and better experiences.
Not sure how you mean that. Many people seek to be contrarians to anything and everything including themselves. Principles are shortcuts or ideals you develop and/or develop and label on the macro level to help your life. If you believe "principles are there to be broken" it could easily be a case of you developing or using a principle of "principles are full of crap," or, "everything should be questioned," or, "don't let other people tell you what to think," or, "don't be a sheeple, so anything people can identify and label you by should be avoided or actively worked against, don't be labeled." Principles aren't "there" to be broken. They tend to be a consistent set of behavioral habits and their impetus people have adopted and then labeled. You can't help but build, adopt, accept, and apply "principles." They form naturally whether or not you consciously choose to develop the behavioral consistency. A lack of principles, or a constant changing/breaking of principles can prevent us from making decisions on routine matters, keeping us from making new and better experiences due to having to figure out the meaning and consequences of the new and better experiences, or being unable to find value in the new and better experiences because the focus is on some minor cost or irrelevant moral or value implication associated with the new and better experience. Principles are there. There can be positive and negative consequences to "breaking" them. Depends on how close to a "truth" they are, and how that "truth" is accepted by the group(s) you find yourself belonging to and/or have to interact with. |
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I don't want to upset them, and I think, it goes both ways.
Weebles Wobble but they don't Fall Down A lot of people are like weebles. Things make them wobble but they don't fall down. There are things that will cause a weeble to stay in the horizontal position but it is an extreme. Same with people. Too much mass attached to the top of a weeble. An unstable foundation under a weeble. A trapped weeble. With people, Too much responsibility can topple a person. Responsibility based on principals. Unstable foundations can topple people. Not enough principals to stand their own ground. Being locked into principles can also topple a person. Rigid principles restrict the ability to cope with the unexpected. |
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Principle when meant as a rule is most of the time broken specially when breaking it brings us convenience or satisfaction. A diet for example? IMO what prevents us from future life experiences is fear specially when it stems from our past and how it affected us then. I have so much admiration for people who doesn’t let their past cloud their decisions of the future. They are not afraid of the possibility of getting hurt again . They have such resilient hearts mine is resilient but does not lose the scars. Life experiences are a learning process. For example, we get hurt by a person, and we learn, never to mix with that type of people again. But it should not stop us from mixing with people as such. We might still learn, that we are able to find someone, who won't hurt us ... or simply to be found, if we leave a door to our heart open. Then we learn that we deserve to be loved and valued. Lars what would be the case then when you have been with not only one but two people in your life in the same situation with the same outcome ? doesn’t that tell you something about being wary and careful with your decisions? If a cycle keeps happening over and over with heart breaking results, we should do something to break it or else it will just go on and on and in the end break not only our heart but our spirit as well. So the decision just makes us have a certain guide to our life , but its not a hard and fast rule/principle. One can only hope to be valued in the way they truly deserve to be but we should all know our own worth first |
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If I am constantly making the same mistakes over and over, I am obviously not gaining the wisdom by learning from them.
If my prinicples cause me to repeat mistakes, I am not gaining the wisdom to change my defective principles. If an elephant is charging at you, you can stand your ground. Just don't be surprised when it tramples over you. If you survive and find yourself in a similar situation, if you don't abandon your ground to prevent the same result, you have gained no wisdom. When a principle prevents you from making a reasonable decision sensibly, that principle needs to be changed. Otherwise, you make the same mistakes again and again. |
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