Topic: MGTOW..men going their own way?
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Fri 05/11/18 07:39 AM

It seems some men are upset that they can't mistreat women anymore. People are still getting married when both people are good to each other. I see men use or try to use women for sex. They get pissed off when they are told no. I see women use men for money. He is usually older and knows he is being used. He gets mad. I don't think either movement has much to do with the war between the genders. I think it's each person's selfish agenda.
I dont think feminism has anything to do with some jagoff men being upset for not mistreating women.

The reality is people are now understanding its not a smart move to abuse or mistreat and its being frowned upon.

Some men use women for sex and some women use men for money, its been like that since the days of King George.

by the way , do you miss DH?

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Fri 05/11/18 09:58 AM
It seems some men are upset that they can't mistreat women anymore. People are still getting married when both people are good to each other. I see men use or try to use women for sex. They get pissed off when they are told no. I see women use men for money. He is usually older and knows he is being used. He gets mad. I don't think either movement has much to do with the war between the genders. I think it's each person's selfish agenda.
what constitutes mistreatment

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Fri 05/11/18 10:04 AM
I do miss dh.

Mistreating a woman can vary. When married men would cheat and beat their wives back before women had jobs, cars, homes. Weinstein was clearly mistreating women. I believe he is getting what he deserves.

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Fri 05/11/18 10:25 AM

I do miss dh.

Mistreating a woman can vary. When married men would cheat and beat their wives back before women had jobs, cars, homes. Weinstein was clearly mistreating women. I believe he is getting what he deserves.

This is where the problem is!!! That very loose term "mistreat" is in the eye of the beholder not in the books of law. If I complement you on your butt, is that mistreatment? If I ask you to spend a week with me someplace, is that mistreatment? If I suggest your career future would be better with a wardrobe makeover is that mistreatment?? If a married man cheats on his wife, who is being mistreated?

Now, obviously, if I reach out and grab your privates, yes now we have mistreatment as well as a violation of law. Then there is the issue of in a crowded environment, my arms brushes over your covered breast, is that an issue?

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Fri 05/11/18 10:34 AM


I do miss dh.

Mistreating a woman can vary. When married men would cheat and beat their wives back before women had jobs, cars, homes. Weinstein was clearly mistreating women. I believe he is getting what he deserves.

This is where the problem is!!! That very loose term "mistreat" is in the eye of the beholder not in the books of law. If I complement you on your butt, is that mistreatment? If I ask you to spend a week with me someplace, is that mistreatment? If I suggest your career future would be better with a wardrobe makeover is that mistreatment?? If a married man cheats on his wife, who is being mistreated?

Now, obviously, if I reach out and grab your privates, yes now we have mistreatment as well as a violation of law. Then there is the issue of in a crowded environment, my arms brushes over your covered breast, is that an issue?
except she wasnt talking about lewd comments ,she was talking about physical and mental abuse.

Making a comment about her butt or wardrobe isnt the same as mental or physical abuse

What Weinstein did was abusive and that is an example of mistreatment, even though some lewd comments can be offensive and depending on how its used can be a form of mistreatment yes.

but comparing commenting on Butts and wardrobe to getting a beating is wrong.


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Fri 05/11/18 11:14 AM
I met my exhusband at work. He didn't grab me or make comments to me about my butt. He just asked me out. He left it up to me to say yes or no.
If you are trying to brush up against a woman in a crowd, you are an abuser. If you are commenting on women's butts to them at work, you are an abuser.

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Fri 05/11/18 11:31 AM

I met my exhusband at work. He didn't grab me or make comments to me about my butt. He just asked me out. He left it up to me to say yes or no.
If you are trying to brush up against a woman in a crowd, you are an abuser. If you are commenting on women's butts to them at work, you are an abuser.


Sorry, I dont agree, brushing up against a woman in a crowd, commenting on a woman's butt doesn't make one an abuser, it makes him a phucking pervert.

Perversion and abuse are not the same thing.

If the guy commented on a woman's butt in front of his spouse well you might have a case but commenting on her appearance because he is an azzwipe doesnt make him an abuser.



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Fri 05/11/18 11:58 AM
Well a few years dealing with big bubba might change his mind. Do you want your gf/wife having to deal with comments from a perverted old man everyday at work? Because it is sexual harassment.

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Fri 05/11/18 12:06 PM
that is the thing, I don't put up with it and I own a business, none of the guys who work for me harrasses any of the women working here.

IF a company doesn't nip it in the bud its on them.

Ive never been in a situation where someone disrespected a girlfriend in front of me so I cant answer that, but I would say the to the guy "hey azzhole , keep your comments to Your phucking self jagoff"

Now Ive been out and seen it happen and usually I say Oooooh, come on pizan that someone girlfriend , show the lady some respect.


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Fri 05/11/18 05:48 PM
Edited by indianadave4 on Fri 05/11/18 05:58 PM

I do miss dh.

Mistreating a woman can vary. When married men would cheat and beat their wives back before women had jobs, cars, homes. Weinstein was clearly mistreating women. I believe he is getting what he deserves.


Women now have a new advantage: being able to try, convict and execute a man (and his career) before it goes to court. He's guilty until proven innocent in the court of the media.

Yes, women were mistreated decades ago. Could women do much about it? In a lot of cases no. But now women are mistreating men who, now, have no recourse. So does this make women feel good? Are they happy that they now can beat up on men and get away with it? Vengeance is great, right?

Women need to remember that what goes around will (usually) come around. Something will happen that will turn the tables against women.

Feminists really love this arrangement. Unfortunately men are distancing themself from women in general because of the abuses that have happened. So if women complain that they are not the problem they can thank and donate money to the local feminist group.

If a man is accused of something he should "be tried in a court of law" not in the court of the media. If proven guilty he should suffer the consequences. If she lied she should be tried in a court of law for misusing the legal system. Equality for all.

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Sat 05/12/18 11:45 AM
Edited by undrboss on Sat 05/12/18 11:45 AM


I do miss dh.

Mistreating a woman can vary. When married men would cheat and beat their wives back before women had jobs, cars, homes. Weinstein was clearly mistreating women. I believe he is getting what he deserves.


Women now have a new advantage: being able to try, convict and execute a man (and his career) before it goes to court. He's guilty until proven innocent in the court of the media.

Yes, women were mistreated decades ago. Could women do much about it? In a lot of cases no. But now women are mistreating men who, now, have no recourse. So does this make women feel good? Are they happy that they now can beat up on men and get away with it? Vengeance is great, right?

Women need to remember that what goes around will (usually) come around. Something will happen that will turn the tables against women.

Feminists really love this arrangement. Unfortunately men are distancing themself from women in general because of the abuses that have happened. So if women complain that they are not the problem they can thank and donate money to the local feminist group.

If a man is accused of something he should "be tried in a court of law" not in the court of the media. If proven guilty he should suffer the consequences. If she lied she should be tried in a court of law for misusing the legal system. Equality for all.


I dont believe the average woman is mistreating men, they too are victims of the nazi radical feminist movement especially the 3rd wave feminists.

Its the nazi radical feminist movement and their followers who mistreating men.

They are a bunch of misanthropes, and You tube, twitter all hypocrites, they shut down any thing opposing Feminists but allow nonsense like hashtag "kill all men" to remain?


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Sat 05/12/18 12:34 PM
So divided... Races, genders, religions. It's pretty sad really



I like crazy women... in bed smokin



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Sat 05/12/18 05:02 PM

It seems some men are upset that they can't mistreat women anymore. People are still getting married when both people are good to each other. I see men use or try to use women for sex. They get pissed off when they are told no. I see women use men for money. He is usually older and knows he is being used. He gets mad. I don't think either movement has much to do with the war between the genders. I think it's each person's selfish agenda.



Well Said :smile:

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Sat 05/12/18 05:26 PM

It often seems like thinly veiled misogyny to me. If you want to be celibate or unattached, great - more power to you - but when it involves so much complaining about “women these days” and how feminism is supposedly hurting men, it makes me wonder how many of these guys really want to “go their own way”, and how many just want women to go the way men tell them to.


:thumbsup:


If a man has that attitude, I say hurry up and go your own way. I know where I'm going. tongue2

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Sun 05/13/18 06:58 PM
Too many women are assuming the worst about men, without bothering to go one on one with them. Just because you women group together and discuss how men are, you assume men do the same. I don't, and I'd wager to say that quite a few men don't have a best buddy to talk about things. I have friends, but we don't sit and talk about women.

I didn't choose to go my own way-I got pushed that way.

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Sun 05/13/18 07:16 PM
We always have a choice about our actions/behavior. No one who truly knows themselves can be "pushed", or forced, to do anything.

I quit a job because I was being "pushed" to lie (inflate #s) on reports that go to the SEC, and to lie/inflate hours billed to clients.

We can't blame others for choices we make ourselves.

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Sun 05/13/18 07:17 PM
oh so true Galaxy, oh so true.

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Sun 05/13/18 07:29 PM
I think men going their own way has been the default position of humankind for the last several millenia of patriarchal rule of nations, religions, governments, and families.

I've been going my own way forever, since no one wants to go with me and make alternative suggestions. Going in a shared way may be better.

Surely there is a statute of limitations to cover young age indiscretions of bumbling teenagers negotiating the ways of the world.

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Sun 05/13/18 08:51 PM
I applaud the movement. Now I can use men for just sex with no worries of the getting attached and wanting to "make a life" together. My money will remain my money, as his will be his.

Now if the movement could just learn not to generalize all women as money grubbing baby making machines out to take them for every cent ... I might get a date. My treat of course, I wouldn't want him thinking I owe him something in return.

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Tue 05/15/18 06:44 AM

I applaud the movement. Now I can use men for just sex with no worries of the getting attached and wanting to "make a life" together. My money will remain my money, as his will be his.

Now if the movement could just learn not to generalize all women as money grubbing baby making machines out to take them for every cent ... I might get a date. My treat of course, I wouldn't want him thinking I owe him something in return.


I think too many people say what they think the other person wants to hear. They should be honest about what they want and let the other person choose to be with them or not.