A real man, knows what his woman needs.

Most women want a man who can take the lead in relationship.

Based on the definitions, I'm frugal. But I consider myself more practical.

When it comes to a date I'm with you on this one.. Hell use to even tell my son if a girl/woman is really interested in you no matter where you take them they will appreciate the time spent with you more then where it is spent~~


If they have a sense of humor they have my attention... one that you can laugh with is one worth staying with..

Definitely, I agree with both of you!

And actually, I went out with someone a while back who thought expensive dinners and such would impress me, it had the opposite effect .... like the Shania Twain song says.... That don't impress me much! Coffee and later a nice picnic where you can spend quality time together means more to me.

Thanks for sharing! Oftentimes the trueth is insulting!!

Most men that have any money don't mind spending on someone they really Care about. A real gentleman that is!!!

Yes they will use those , who they don't care for. Those that get with them for just personal visits.

Wow, This just comes off as shallow as hell.
I'm guessing you are a material girl.
Hope you find a rich man....

I hear you girl I feel the same way it is more in the thought and the time they took to plan simple things at times that hit the heart.... I feel for those that grow up thinking it is the amount of money that gets spent is how much someone cares to be around one....

I would agree with that. Have had those picnic type of dates. They're fun.
But... I only like that if it comes from a sense of adventure and playfulness, not when it comes from a sense of being cheap. If I sense a guy is cheap, I'm off. I do like the feel of a guy wanting to treat me like a queen. Doesn't mean he has to spend a fortune on me, but if he's cheap I'm not going to appreciate it because I will not feel appreciated.
I do not expect diamonds -although recently been getting an interest in 'em, haha- but I do expect to be made to feel high-value and thorougly appreciated.
So there will have to be the occasional dinner for sure And little pressies.

It's only money.

One time, it was lovely.

Don't get me wrong, I love presents and to be treated like a princess... or queen. I enjoy dressing up and going to dinner too.

So long as that's not the primary show of affection. It's a little like msharmony said about the way people validate or show affection.

I don't feel validated, like I matter, or even loved when I'm showered with presents, expensive dinners, or given money to go shopping. I feel bought off. Could be a thing from my childhood, my father used money as a substitute for his love and presence. Every birthday and Christmas I could count on receiving $50 and then $100. All I really wanted was to spend time with him and for him to give me a hug and say he loved me.

Or it could have to do with "The Five Languages of Love"... My love box is filled with undivided and quality attention. If that isn't there, doesn't matter how much you tell me, how much you give me, or what you do for me, I won't feel I matter to you and I will eventually leave.

So a walk on the beach, a picnic, or a quiet home cooked meal mean more to me than anything money can buy.

I have my own finances! And would like A man with some money!

If women want a broke man, have at it!

I enjoy doing nice things as so do Many others I Know!


Shallow! No don't think so!

Most men I Know can make you laugh and afford to buy a lady a meal where I choose to go!

Good Character and good income, makes a Greater date!

I m no cheapskate and differently not seeking a man right now.

FYI. I have an interest.

I agree with this ...

Well....I own two cars, will be buying a house next year (I want a 15 year mortgage and don't want to pay out the wazoo), and my tax return from last year is still in my savings account. I do spend on things, but I also try very hard to save. So I guess I am a little frugal but when I want something I normally get it.

I’m whatever the definition is for buying pretty much whatever you want, but not wanting much and paying full price for nothing.

Both. Neither. Depends on the situation. And from whose perspective in comparison to what.

I mean if I want something quick to eat I'll go to McDonald's and get a $1 cheeseburger and a $1 unsweetened ice tea.
It really makes me feel good to get the unsweetened ice tea. Partly because I like it. Mostly because I don't have to pay tax on it since it doesn't have any sugar. Same size soda or sweet tea costs $1.07. Haha, take that city and state coffers, that's my $.07.
I've gotten into arguments with employees that tried to charge me that $.07 as they just rang up a large drink rather than specifically an unsweetened ice tea.

When I was a kid my friend and I bought the exact same pellet rifle (brand, type, model, etc. all the same) around the same time.
He bought his from a chain sporting goods store, I bought it at Kmart where it was cheapest.
I paid less. His hysterical reasoning was he didn't mind paying more because it meant he got a better quality.

When we were older we both bought .22 rifles at the same time. Again, same model, type, etc. (ruger 10/22's). I bought mine from a sporting goods store. He bought his from walmart. He paid less. My reasoning was I hated walmart (it was going to kill my job) and wanted to support the local outdoor sports store, we knew the family that ran it. (A large number of people, including myself and people I knew, fought to keep walmart out of our city, but the government said too bad so sad come on in walmart, oh and here's a bunch of tax subsidies, and we'll build you a road and stoplight, please bring us your jobs...oh, dozens of stores and hundreds of jobs were lost like the opponents said? But look at the savings and the dozens of jobs! f'n walmart).

If I'm meeting someone off the internet for the first time, I don't want to end up paying a lot, so will go to starbucks or chili's or something. But I won't be like an accountant friend of mine that whips out his calculator to split up the check figuring exact amount of tax and tip.

If we've dated a while I'd rather take them to a maestro's or go away on a trip to somewhere nice.
Dating is just as much about making it a somewhat unique, special, or enjoyable experience for me as it is for them.
Doing nice things with someone new as we learn about each other and focusing on that is more pleasurable than the pleasure derived from situations like saving $.07 from McDonalds.

IMO I think I try to be judicious in my frugality, cheapskatedness, or spendthriftiness. Each deserve their place/time.
IMO not much different than wearing ripped and stained clothes while lounging around the house, changing into something better to go out, wearing sunday best on sunday, or dressing up for the symphony or whatever.


Maybe a real woman knows how to effectively communicate with her man regarding what her needs actually are and provides honest feedback, in a way he will accept and appreciate, when those needs aren't being met or are approached incorrectly.


IME most women that say they want a man who can take the lead in a/the relationship tend to also want a man who can read her mind, passively demanding that he learn (or already know) how she communicates and conform to her methods, assumptions, associations, and expectations, without any reciprocation or consideration.

Cireton
I enjoyed reading your responses!
I agree on some points! Especially about what a woman wants!

And the accountant with the calculator, was too much! I would never go on a date with a man, who does that!!!

I couldn’t be called a cheepskate while spending money on non-essential art supplies. But I shop for bargains and consider them essential enough to my mental and spiritual helth, which might earn me a spot on the frugality list. At least in small print at the bottom.