Good Day my mingle2 family, I'm back from a weeks hiatus, the weather here in " City Of Brotherly Love" Philly, a lovely 81 degrees plenty of sun, wish you were here to enjoy it with me. Meanwhile, lets get to the nitty gritty on one of my " Hot Tea Topics". America, when you hear the word welfare , what comes to mind? Food Stamps?, Medicaid insurance?, Job Training?, Cash Assistance?....right? Well I came across this article that you may support or disagree with, so buckle up for the craziest ride of your mind. Governors across the county are proposing game-challenge welfare reforms & my lovely state of Pennsylvania.

Yesterday, Maine submitted a waiver to the federal government asking for permission apply Medicaid work requirements to parents. Similar governors in the states such as Arizona & Wisconsin have proposed work requirements for the able-bodied enrolled in Medicaid. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's proposal seeks work requirements for able- bodied or a 4-year limit on benefits.

So My Mingle Family are for or against this new reform bill they getting ready to start. Before you unleash your thoughts , lets keep in mind to think about the folks that really need there benefits.

Okay lets chat!

generally speaking

welfare is to assist people going through tough times until they can get on their feet

medicaid is to assist with necessary medical care

most people on medicaid are below a certain poverty level, which means they are usually already on a form of cash or food assistance,,,,

so, I do not see the point in making people work in order to receive just basic medical care or food for their children , though I can understand a work requirement for cash assistance

For those without children, if they are truly able bodied and will be assisted in being placed in a job,, why not?

EyeAmYourHost39,

Well how I feel about this whole welfare thing is I have very mixed feelings about this,

My Pro- I think it should be a time line for being eligible to continue or to first time apply. So many people use welfare like a generational career. Don't get me wrong if you been on it for 2 yrs & more but you trying to find work, trying to take advantage of job training but you need that extra help until you're stability becomes a regular.

My Cons- I think pushing for a cut off can be sometimes unfair. I think that should only apply to those in the past been receiving benefits for the last 5 yrs. & more should be giving a dead line.

Ms Harmony,

Good Morning , well you absolutely right , Check this out, what about that single mom, at home she has 5 kids, no father around, living in a rent controlled living, you know the more kids you have the more Food Stamps you get, so a family of 6 you looking here in Pennsylvania up to 500 dollars in food stamps. That can help or hinder folks. I believe you should have that extra help at least until you get things moving for yourself. but when you spend years & you passing that welfare torch to your daughters and so on it becomes out of control.

I truly believe welfare should be more about career development instead of just temporary cash,,,,,if there was an investment in training and job placement to reduce the time welfare(cash assistance) is needed, it would go much further than 'just' giving people cash and then cutting them loose

help them attain some employable skills, help with the childcare costs(Which are not cheap) during the time they invest for this training, and then HELP them actually be placed into a JOB,,,,,,,

I had to work 30 hours a week for barely a 300 a month cash assistance, but while on the job, I could not look for work elsewhere, I really enjoyed the job and anticipated being hired eventually but the rub was they had no money for hiring, so they basically got my free labor instead for a year (the max that an 'assistance' job can last) I worked the equivalent of 120 hrs a month for 320 cash,, you do the math,,,,

it's not that people mind working, but they want a reasonable compensation for their time and efforts,,,,,this is what needs to be fixed the most

helping people actually become employed, and helping parents with their childcare, is much more useful than throwing money at them for a limited time,,,,

EyeAmYourHost39

I tell you guys here in Pennsylvania being a common wealth state, has 2 governments with 2 types of laws. America, did you know in the state of PA, men aren't no longer eligible for cash assistance unless he's a single father raising children. Also in my State for women to apply or continue her benefits she has to join a job training or a job readiness courses and claim the father.

In most states I have lived in , there is a lifetime limit on assistance, In ohio you can only receive it five years out of a lifetime, I would have to recheck the limits in Nevada

generational welfare, went out the door for most places, with Bill Clintons welfare to work reforms

Ms Harmony,

Check this out, I looking at a documentary on the food stamp crash in Georgia a while back, and this woman was basically bragging about how much food stamps she receive & how she like why work if you can get it free. I was so disgusted by her attitude and how she one out of thousands that's milking the system. So if they decide to cut her off,she incriminated herself on camera, she be the one who would go nuts if she wakes up tomorrow call her EBT card and the balance is zero cash zero stamps.

yes, a piss poor attitude, especially consider how little assistance food stamps provides

its like why be in a free society , if you can be owned by someone that will give you a place to stay and scraps,,,imagine if slaves had that mentality


it says alot about how little she values herself really to feel like such a pittance is worth it

Ms. Harmony,

that's right, did you know back in 1940's during W.W.1 & 2, president Roosevelt sign a welfare bill for poor to middle class families that had fathers and husbands in the war, it was set up for the wife to be able to put food on there tables. that's why white's majority of welfare. But its a good number of minorities that's using it now.

Very interesting, many of the same problems in the UK,

what governments don't understand, is that the vast majority of people want to go to work, earn enough to pay the bills, feed the family,have a decent holiday once a year, and stay out of debt, Sorry-I got that wrong, they do understand, they like the way it is, it's all about control, I have mentioned this many times before.

1% of the worlds population, have as much Wealth as the other 99%,
And they give people food Banks, and Charity shops.
It's a Con from the day you are born.

WellWorn,

Welcome to my cyber mansion, you absolutely on the money, I hear in the U.K. they already have the chip as new world currency now. I said this was going to happen 6 months ago to the m2 masses, but because we are America we tend to exclude ourselves from soon as this coming to the Americas.

Well, the chip is not in place 100%, but it''s happening,You have probably heard all about the Brexit deal in the UK, the powers that be are way ahead of any of us, Germany who are all out to unify Europe,started the process of printing the Mark over 5 years ago,why would they do that if they are so confident about the Euro.
Good Luck America.

WellWorn

ahhhhh.....I see, everyone on m2 knows I'm from Germany and last winter I went back home to my grand parents home. on the way we ran into a military checkpoint. I was talking with a German guard in my native language of deutch. to put it in plain English , he said by within the next 5 years Germany will be chipped checkpoints into France & Italy. creepy huh?

EyeAm, Didn't know you were German,

Yes it is Creepy what's going on, and there is tons going on we don't even know about.

WellWorn,

Yes I was born in Berlin in 1976, lived in Berlin until I was 7 then my parents & I live in Munich, Germany and later we moved to the America, Philadelphia was our first and last stop.

EyeAmYourHost39,

Sit & Have A Hot Cup Of Hot Tea With A Slice Of Controversy Part 21!

My Weekly Rant.....Welfare Love Section 8"

Good Afternoon M2 , its about that time again for my rant or off the chest logic. Okay let me just say this, when I was little boy my mom had a great job working at an hospital in Berlin Germany. When they laid her off she temporary needed public assistance such as food stamps. I remember food stamps when they was paper stamps. We had them until 4 months and my mother was back at work and ended her assistance. See to all that needs public assistance and you trying then I commend you. But when you been on assistance 5 , 10 maybe 15 years and you haven't moved a inch, that's what that bill is reaching for. I do agree with republicans where they say get out there and work, I agree but on a smaller scale. If you disabled, elderly, handicapped, & Pregnant. I can see you can't work, then you probably on SSI & SSDI, so the extra assistance will help you out. In my state of Pennsylvania even hood winged those with SSI, here if you receive SSI or SSDI they either cut your stamps to 10.00 or 20.00 dollars or you won't be eligible, no lie! Like I mention in my opening forum if you a single man in PA you no longer be eligible for cash assistance. That ended by former Governor Corbett. America, be aware of this drastic change in your state soon. What they trying to do is to force America to work with limited resource. Which may cause famine or hunger in our country. If you are hunger you do have the energy to produce greatness. You can't take something from the people and throw them under the train by eliminating public assistance. I think if you can work , then work but I do believe that a margin should have this option until they can produced better.

Eyeam, I think without assistance

we go back to living a slaveholder existence

where employers pay as little or as much as they feel, because they know its the only way you have to live and therefore will accept 'anything'

Ms Harmony,

Yes the new slavery is debt. especially college & credit card debt is the new work slavery. you certainly right.

This is a good conversation,i would add to it but you both said what I was thinking