Topic: " Is It Welfare or Wel-unfair...."
dreamerana's photo
Mon 05/01/17 01:33 PM
Hello. Hooe you're having a good day.
You ask about whether people should have to seek employment to qualify for medical benrfits.
I don't know about that for the medical benefits part but i do think it should be required to qualify for ongoing cash benefits.
I've known people who never work a day but are living well off of the benefits they receive. So they don't look for work because they would make less working than what they receive from govt benefits

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/01/17 01:35 PM
dreamer, that is a shame too

considering benefits is not usually very much, it says alot about the state of 'employment' and how workers are valued when they do work

NeonMidnight's photo
Mon 05/01/17 01:52 PM
some people love to abuse the welfare system

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/01/17 01:53 PM
that is true, some can find a way to abuse any system,,,,

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Mon 05/01/17 02:13 PM
I have long been frustrated by the limited imagination of the people in positions of power in this country, as regards this issue, especially because none of them recognize that it is actually a small part of a much larger area of concern.

Most often these days, "welfare" is presented as a binary choice, between handing people in obvious need a small amount of cash, or telling everyone to "suck it up" and go away. Modifying that by talking about things such as that it should only be a temporary thing, or calling for complete control over anyone's personal life who accepts it, are all just overt refusals to directly address any of the real problems that are involved with the total picture.

The only thing that's accomplished by self-righteous pronouncements and self-blinding regulations on this, is the creation of an illusion of prosperity, while the overall society declines steadily.

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Mon 05/01/17 02:21 PM
Yes, it is true that some will find a way of abusing the system,

but our rulers just use that as a stick to beat every one else with,

until those at the top decide it is just not fair to treat people this way it will only continue, Trillions are being spent, and made off the backs of the ordinary hard working people, and the best that they can come up with, is to play us all against each other, it's age old,
divide and rule.

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Mon 05/01/17 03:24 PM
The welfare system as we know it will eventually run out of
money anyway. Taxes will have to raised but that won't be enough
to keep up.
It will end. Then we can all sing Cumbaya together.

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 05/01/17 04:25 PM
Kerri51,

Welcome to my Cyber Mansion, really well what's your take on this here? I'm curious about your thoughts.

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Mon 05/01/17 04:30 PM
Dreamerana,

Hello, its been a while since you posted with me, well I see that scenario all the time. Some people look at the system like a meal ticket or cash cow. its not made for a milking, you notice that those who do that get cut off quickly. I know some many people in my city selling there stamps, a month later they get cut off.


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Mon 05/01/17 04:32 PM
FancyFox,

You absolutely right its a shame........I know black women not all but a few past it down to there young adult children so the young adult children growing up thinking I don't have to work just collect my benefits, my W.I>C. even child support

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Mon 05/01/17 04:34 PM
AlleOOps,

Remember what I say the dollar will collapse that including public assistance. People if you want an example how it will crash, you too Alleoops, go to your YouTube. in the search bar put in " Atlanta's E.B.T. crash" you see first hand everything im talking about money crash. check the video out. tell me what you think.

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Mon 05/01/17 04:38 PM
IgorFrankesteen,

I can understand your frustrations. I always said what's done in the dark will surface with the light. Again the only thing I agree with republicans is people if you can, get up off your tush and get a job.

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Mon 05/01/17 04:39 PM
Hi

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Mon 05/01/17 05:03 PM

Eyeam, I think without assistance

we go back to living a slaveholder existence

where employers pay as little or as much as they feel, because they know its the only way you have to live and therefore will accept 'anything'


This makes very little sense to me, people should work to better themselves and eventually be in a better position to find a more suitable pay scale or they could take some temporary assistance to build a business themselves.

what's with this perpetual welfare/assistance garbagewhoa

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 05/01/17 05:12 PM
Shobhit129,

Hello welcome to my cyber mansion do you have a in-put to share?

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Mon 05/01/17 05:18 PM
Johnn111,

Its not, its true th4e government is cracking down on welfare and people outside of mingle 2 is worried about it. its time is nigh to bring this topic to the forefront. I wish people just open there horizon and talk about what's really goes on.

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Mon 05/01/17 05:28 PM

Johnn111,

Its not, its true th4e government is cracking down on welfare and people outside of mingle 2 is worried about it. its time is nigh to bring this topic to the forefront. I wish people just open there horizon and talk about what's really goes on.


Alright, let's talk about the panzy azzed able bodied people soaking the system?
Or do you want to talk about the bigger picture of the government changing the rules on the panzy azzed able bodied folks?

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/01/17 06:02 PM


Eyeam, I think without assistance

we go back to living a slaveholder existence

where employers pay as little or as much as they feel, because they know its the only way you have to live and therefore will accept 'anything'


This makes very little sense to me, people should work to better themselves and eventually be in a better position to find a more suitable pay scale or they could take some temporary assistance to build a business themselves.

what's with this perpetual welfare/assistance garbagewhoa


I am no fan of an individual on perpetual welfare

however, if we leave people with no option but homelessness or starvation or 'work', the employers will have all the power and absolute power corrupts

even those without jobs should have better options than just 'anything' an employer wants to offer especially if employers ever have the upperhand of knowing that your only other option is starving,,,,

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Mon 05/01/17 06:04 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/01/17 06:08 PM

Ms Harmony,

Good Morning , well you absolutely right , Check this out, what about that single mom, at home she has 5 kids, no father around, living in a rent controlled living, you know the more kids you have the more Food Stamps you get, so a family of 6 you looking here in Pennsylvania up to 500 dollars in food stamps. That can help or hinder folks. I believe you should have that extra help at least until you get things moving for yourself. but when you spend years & you passing that welfare touch to your daughters and soon it becomes out of control.


this is another cliche and outdated thought, but perhaps if it were still promoted for men and women to make commitments to each other and their families, and for men to provide for their families, and if society actually had the type of job opportunities for men to be ABLE to provide for their family


In my grandparents day, there was stigma for a man making children he didn't provide for or a mother who didn't take care of her children and her home


now if one is not 'cut out' for parenting, there is barely any stigma to them walking away, and instead the remaining parent receives stigma for not being able to fill both parents roles by themselves...


encouraging family 'roles', might leave far fewer people trying to raise children themselves and trying to figure out how to be everything and provide everything themselves, emotionally and financially...

but, who wants to encourage people to do things like commit to what's not 'fun', or not making them 'happy' huh?

dreamerana's photo
Mon 05/01/17 06:27 PM

Dreamerana,

Hello, its been a while since you posted with me, well I see that scenario all the time. Some people look at the system like a meal ticket or cash cow. its not made for a milking, you notice that those who do that get cut off quickly. I know some many people in my city selling there stamps, a month later they get cut off.



People only get cut off if they get caught.
Unfirtunately some people make public assistance a way of life. In many cases it becomes a generational practice.

I'm not opposed to people receiving help when they truly can't do anything else.
However, a person who is able bodied should make efforts to become self sufficient.
I do believe there should be requirements for a person who receives public assistance to complete their high school education or GED for example.
I see many people who drop out of school and have no skills. They learn how to live off the system without having to be accountable.
If there was a requirement to show legitimate efforts to be employed, perhaps there wouldn't be such a high correlation beteeen public assistance and school attrition.
Which in turn might mean more people are self reliant and emplyoable instead of depending on a flawed system