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Topic: Responding vs obsessing
msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 10:43 AM
Sometimes people INITIATE a topic. Sometimes people RESPOND to what others have initiated.

Sometimes, I notice, people confuse the two. Singling out the one responding as if they have initiated or 'brought up' something and totally ignoring who actually did initiate the topic.


Do you think this is about an obsession with the speaker/responder and it is being projected onto the responder as THEIR obsession instead?

what happened to the natural 'flow' of conversations, ,where one speaks and the next speaks in REFERENCE to what they heard? is that unreasonable?

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Mon 03/27/17 11:14 AM
I see a topic and post or not. End of story./

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 11:18 AM
sweet

TxsGal3333's photo
Mon 03/27/17 11:28 AM
Hummm I have seen those that respond and no matter what others say they have to find fault in their response..

What happen to we all have a opinion and can think like we want to instead of how some think others should think??..

At times it is best to just respond and move on for some will never see it any other way but their own...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 03/27/17 11:29 AM
I think people respond to what they feel is important to them.
Topics don't always stay on focus as intended.

Extended diversions from topic indicates a few things; The diversionary topic currently being discussed is not sufficiently addressed, The topic of diversionary discussion indirectly relates to the OP topic and the personal need of a respondent to be acknowledged. There may be more specific reasons but that's what I mostly see.

Its common for connections to enhance or broaden the spectrum of an intended topic. A phrase out of context for some may hold significance for others. Since we are all different, we see things uniquely. That unique take on things is what expands our understanding of others.

A person that is obsessed will expound on that obsession in all responses because they are obsessed about it. To them the OP topic has no bearing. The obsession comes to light across a multiple of topic platforms and often repeats itself in context and form.

There are a lot of people that feel they need to be acknowledged. Sometimes that need becomes overwhelming. You can acknowledge them and then return to the OP topic and in most cases that is enough but there are a few personalities the will try to demand full attention. Lack of acknowledgement initiates a trolling response.

Adopting netiquette assures on topic discussions as long as all respondents use it. When they don't, how that is handled often establishes the thread discussion.

The Core Rules of Netiquette are excerpted from the book Netiquette by Virginia Shea. Click on each rule for elaboration.

Introduction

Rule 1: Remember the Human

Rule 2: Adhere to the same standards of behavior online that you follow in real life

Rule 3: Know where you are in cyberspace

Rule 4: Respect other people's time and bandwidth

Rule 5: Make yourself look good online

Rule 6: Share expert knowledge

Rule 7: Help keep flame wars under control

Rule 8: Respect other people's privacy

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msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 11:38 AM
ty for a thoughtful contributionflowerforyou

sybariticguy's photo
Mon 03/27/17 11:48 AM
One could simply differentiate reactions from knowing how to respond too..

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 03/27/17 12:22 PM

Sometimes people INITIATE a topic. Sometimes people RESPOND to what others have initiated.

Sometimes, I notice, people confuse the two. Singling out the one responding as if they have initiated or 'brought up' something and totally ignoring who actually did initiate the topic.


Do you think this is about an obsession with the speaker/responder and it is being projected onto the responder as THEIR obsession instead?

what happened to the natural 'flow' of conversations, ,where one speaks and the next speaks in REFERENCE to what they heard? is that unreasonable?



msharmony,

I know what prompted this thread, and I was wondering the same thing.

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 12:25 PM
flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 12:39 PM

sweet


I always figured if you don't like a topic, you should move on,,,or participate,, instead of being a participant that is belittling the participation of others,,lol

if that makes sense,,,I cannot tell you how many threads I avoid just because I do not really have much to contribute or because I know I cannot relate

TMommy's photo
Mon 03/27/17 12:41 PM

Sometimes people INITIATE a topic. Sometimes people RESPOND to what others have initiated.

Sometimes, I notice, people confuse the two. Singling out the one responding as if they have initiated or 'brought up' something and totally ignoring who actually did initiate the topic.


Do you think this is about an obsession with the speaker/responder and it is being projected onto the responder as THEIR obsession instead?

what happened to the natural 'flow' of conversations, ,where one speaks and the next speaks in REFERENCE to what they heard? is that unreasonable?
man that is almost like a conversation bigsmile

think most of time people will glance at opening statement long enough to type out their two cents worth and move on

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/27/17 12:48 PM
flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/27/17 01:17 PM

Hummm I have seen those that respond and no matter what others say they have to find fault in their response..

What happen to we all have a opinion and can think like we want to instead of how some think others should think??..

At times it is best to just respond and move on for some will never see it any other way but their own...


drinker

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Mon 03/27/17 02:10 PM
I never know what will prompt me to post on a particular thread. Every topic is old hat for me. However, once in a while I believe I have an insight that might be helpful. Mostly, I seize an opportunity to be snarky. If I can make a relevant post and be snarky, so much the better. bigsmile

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Mon 03/27/17 02:19 PM
Do you think this is about an obsession with the speaker/responder and it is being projected onto the responder as THEIR obsession instead?

I am going to assume you are referring to interaction via these dating site forums rather than everyday life, which would include anything from talking to a complete stranger, to heart to heart discussions about a highly personal and relevant-to-the-relationship situation with your mom.

I think people are first drawn to dating sites for a reason.
I think people are drawn to dating site forums for a similar reason.

You ever read where people say "I've met so many friends on the internet!" or "participate in the forums! Get to know people! Make friends!" or something like that?

When you do that you form a social group.

In every social group that has ever existed there is always conflict, there is always vying for dominance, always a continuing "norming" process most especially when there is turnover of members.


Can you have a discussion with a "friend" and turn that relationship off? Remove yourself, put yourself into a completely objective perspective, no longer seeing them as a "friend" at all, in any way whatsoever?

Relationships are relationships. Friend, enemy, lover, parent. Relationship, as it pertains here, is just another term for "group."


It's not about an obsession with the speaker/responder.
It's about group dynamics. Trying to normalize beliefs, rules, and hierarchy.
If there is strife and seeming obsession with a poster, especially if they delve into a personal nature, it is with establishing consistent rules and beliefs among all members of a group.


what happened to the natural 'flow' of conversations

Conversations are what you have 1 on 1, preferably face to face, in "real time."
When you post something in 5 minutes off the top of your head, while the person responding to you takes 2 days, gone through google searches to look up responses, asked other people their opinions, and then come back to you...it's no longer a "conversation."

where one speaks and the next speaks in REFERENCE to what they heard? is that unreasonable?

It's unreasonable to think you are having a conversation and not just putting out fodder for people to accept or attack however they see fit, in ways you don't like or agree with.

I always figured if you don't like a topic, you should move on

IMO key words there are "if you don't like."
That implies people "should" reply if they "do like" a topic.

Responding because of an emotional reaction of "like" has the same merit as responding due to an emotional reaction of "dislike."

I cannot tell you how many threads I avoid just because I do not really have much to contribute or because I know I cannot relate

See? Social posturing for group solidarity.
If you cannot tell, why even mention it?





SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/27/17 02:34 PM


Sometimes people INITIATE a topic. Sometimes people RESPOND to what others have initiated.

Sometimes, I notice, people confuse the two. Singling out the one responding as if they have initiated or 'brought up' something and totally ignoring who actually did initiate the topic.


Do you think this is about an obsession with the speaker/responder and it is being projected onto the responder as THEIR obsession instead?

what happened to the natural 'flow' of conversations, ,where one speaks and the next speaks in REFERENCE to what they heard? is that unreasonable?
man that is almost like a conversation bigsmile

think most of time people will glance at opening statement long enough to type out their two cents worth and move on

^^^^ This
Especially if there's already 3+ pages of replies. I do not go through all of that, some write tomes. Including myself, but that's not the point, haha.
And sometimes it's a case of a response standing out, so you reply to that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that IS taking part of conversation. It doesn't have to be linear now does it? That would mean you could never ever react to something someone said on page 1 because there's already a page 6.
I think that's BS, especially on an international site where ppl have different times off to spend online and to react to stuff.
When you guys in the States have the evening off, I'm asleep. You can start something in the middle of my night, by the time I'm up there could be a page 5. Why shouldn't I be allowed to react to page 2?

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Mon 03/27/17 05:06 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Mon 03/27/17 05:16 PM


I think its an obsession with the speaker laugh

I have a theory about it.

I suspect that there are people who harbor resentment against sects of society, who do not conform to some ideology they hold dear.

The internet offers a platform to vent their frustration at individuals who embody the dogma that they are lobbying against, which might explain all the personal attacks that get launched online.

But I truly believe that one can challenge an opposing belief, without attacking the person voicing that belief.

And no. a natural flow of conversation involving referencing, is not unreasonable at all :)

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 03/27/17 05:29 PM
If a person's response is as clear as mud, then others might take the response the wrong way.

peggy122's photo
Mon 03/27/17 06:03 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Mon 03/27/17 06:04 PM

If a person's response is as clear as mud, then others might take the response the wrong way.


Or they might not take it any way at all david, since your post was super vague laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/30/17 11:00 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Thu 03/30/17 11:04 AM
Maybe I am misunderstanding. When someone posts a topic in open forums, people reply. Sometimes there is a debate. With a debate, it ia a 2 way street. So how can someone classify posts as a response or obsession? I can assume to know what this is about (like David) but in debates, it goes both ways.

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