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at Tom,,,
I agree..another different way to look at it. We are slaves of the government, that is true. |
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Remember the impact. Existence.. History.. How do you feel today? How deep are the scars? which scars it never healed. children and female sex slaves all around the world children soldier slaves in africa provided with western weapons billions slaves of capitalism the patriotic soldier slaves everywhere the slaves of beauty the pharma slaves slaves of the food industry slaves of the many other industries history repeats methods change humanity |
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lol. women have always been in a position of servitude. doubt I will live long enough to see it end. I agree. Funzy's pictures are NOT funny and shouldn't have been posted. They're not a joke. They do not show respect for women. ******************************************** " klc " ..Thanks for understanding and seeing the funny part of it...   |
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at Tom,,, I agree..another different way to look at it. We are slaves of the government, that is true. and the best thing about it is, they made us (but not me anymore, iam free like an ant) believe that we choose it to be governed. |
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But there should be no scars from something that happened to your ancestors and it has absolutely no bearing on current life. Actually I think it is the basis for discrimination, white supremacy, etc which are very much a continued part of current life. In addition, family history is held dear to many, as are old photographs of our ancestors. We keep photo albums and search genealogy because we want to know 'who we are'. If you are white, you probably dont have photographs of slaves. If you are black, you may. In fact you may be related to white plantation owners. The reasons for the latter are nothing short of ugly. human history leaves its imprint on all of us Its no secret that women in this country continue to make less than men for the same work. That stat is even worse if youre a Black, Latino, or Asian woman. I also have family history that does in fact have discrimination in it.. a lot of it actually. and my ancestors too were mistreated.. terribly. actually 1 million of my kind died.. in the Potato famine. And the Irish sure do know discrimination all of which is very well documented, all of which is part of the American history. As is other ethnic groups. And while my relatives have had it hard and my ancestors had it even harder. I never heard a word of that growing up. I knew what happened to " my kind.. my people" but as a family we never dwelled on that. And in the all Irish neighborhood that I grew up in, we never hear about it. Nobody ever dwelled on it. We just continued to better ourselves My point is this, many ethnic groups had it tough.. many.. but they overcame the hardships, the injustices and the outright wrongs and moved on. Improving their live, generation by generation. upward. And I am not saying the " world " is right.. there is a lot of work still to be done. But You remember where you come from...what you are. but that is not a driving factor in your life.. it is history.. something to gauge how far you have come. |
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I'm with Blondey. Slavery isn't relevant to me. I try to treat every one with respect, and I hope that as time goes by, that that will be the norm in this nation. yesss, lets make america or wherever u r from great again, enslave less powerful communities, sell weapons to children and much much more generous acts so we can treat all ppl of our nation with respect dignity! heil!!! the one who looks away is not better than the one who commits. you will always flow with the biggest swarm so u can hide from the reality to build ur own imaginary save zone. |
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I'm tired of hearing about the silly crap.. Black people were making slaves of each other way before white people thought of it.. No one in my family was rich enough to own slaves, so I carry no guilt...
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**** no history is not over and we should not froget and move on. during the history of civilized humanity we r continuously fighting each other. history repeats itself in different facets. we dont respect each other. tolerance respect acceptance never were dominant attitudes. history books contain more lies than facts. history is written by the winners not the oppressed and powerless. so is the future manipulated by the same. dont forget dont read their lies, criticize, demand the truth, listen to urself not the tv.
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But there should be no scars from something that happened to your ancestors and it has absolutely no bearing on current life. Actually I think it is the basis for discrimination, white supremacy, etc which are very much a continued part of current life. In addition, family history is held dear to many, as are old photographs of our ancestors. We keep photo albums and search genealogy because we want to know 'who we are'. If you are white, you probably dont have photographs of slaves. If you are black, you may. In fact you may be related to white plantation owners. The reasons for the latter are nothing short of ugly. human history leaves its imprint on all of us Its no secret that women in this country continue to make less than men for the same work. That stat is even worse if youre a Black, Latino, or Asian woman. I also have family history that does in fact have discrimination in it.. a lot of it actually. and my ancestors too were mistreated.. terribly. actually 1 million of my kind died.. in the Potato famine. And the Irish sure do know discrimination all of which is very well documented, all of which is part of the American history. As is other ethnic groups. And while my relatives have had it hard and my ancestors had it even harder. I never heard a word of that growing up. I knew what happened to " my kind.. my people" but as a family we never dwelled on that. And in the all Irish neighborhood that I grew up in, we never hear about it. Nobody ever dwelled on it. We just continued to better ourselves My point is this, many ethnic groups had it tough.. many.. but they overcame the hardships, the injustices and the outright wrongs and moved on. Improving their live, generation by generation. upward. And I am not saying the " world " is right.. there is a lot of work still to be done. But You remember where you come from...what you are. but that is not a driving factor in your life.. it is history.. something to gauge how far you have come. That happened to my history teacher who told our class in college. As recent as the 1960's. Traffic stops can turn fatal if you are black. Today. As for discrimination: Do your job interviewers see that youre a white male when you walk in? I dont think we're on the same page. We prolly wont ever be. Nothing I can say is new to you Im sure. Youre just not moved by any of it. Looks like a case of 'Ive got mine. Too bad about anybody else.' no.. where not going to agree. And no I'm not moved by it. Why.. because it is history.. stop living in it and you will go further.. and feel less bitter. Were the Irish even hung?.. actually they were.. try looking up the Molly Maguire's.. actually try looking up the Irish.. you may just get a education in discrimination.. its wasn't a black only thing.. ya know. Better yet, take a stroll thru the cemeteries in Louisiana.. take a look at the old headstones.. and all the Irish last names.. you know why?.. because back in the plantation days ( no us Irish folks didn't own any.. cause we were the scum of the earth back then) the Irish were put to work in the swamps before the slaves were... because it was thought the slaves were more valuable then a Irishman... so the Irish died of disease, snakebite or gator attacks.. all to support their families. I have no idea what the people I interview see.. and frankly could care less. I hire the best for the job. And btw.. scores in my company are black.. why.. not because of their color.. but because they are the best for that job... period. And do I have mine?.. yes I do.. and I got it the old fashioned way... I earned it No whining.. no crying foul..no silver spoon. went out there and earned it.. not really a novel approach.. but when all you do is complain.. and look in the past..it doesn't leave much time for positive things.. does it. Have a nice night ;) |
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But there should be no scars from something that happened to your ancestors and it has absolutely no bearing on current life. Actually I think it is the basis for discrimination, white supremacy, etc which are very much a continued part of current life. In addition, family history is held dear to many, as are old photographs of our ancestors. We keep photo albums and search genealogy because we want to know 'who we are'. If you are white, you probably dont have photographs of slaves. If you are black, you may. In fact you may be related to white plantation owners. The reasons for the latter are nothing short of ugly. human history leaves its imprint on all of us Its no secret that women in this country continue to make less than men for the same work. That stat is even worse if youre a Black, Latino, or Asian woman. I also have family history that does in fact have discrimination in it.. a lot of it actually. and my ancestors too were mistreated.. terribly. actually 1 million of my kind died.. in the Potato famine. And the Irish sure do know discrimination all of which is very well documented, all of which is part of the American history. As is other ethnic groups. And while my relatives have had it hard and my ancestors had it even harder. I never heard a word of that growing up. I knew what happened to " my kind.. my people" but as a family we never dwelled on that. And in the all Irish neighborhood that I grew up in, we never hear about it. Nobody ever dwelled on it. We just continued to better ourselves My point is this, many ethnic groups had it tough.. many.. but they overcame the hardships, the injustices and the outright wrongs and moved on. Improving their live, generation by generation. upward. And I am not saying the " world " is right.. there is a lot of work still to be done. But You remember where you come from...what you are. but that is not a driving factor in your life.. it is history.. something to gauge how far you have come. That happened to my history teacher who told our class in college. As recent as the 1960's. Traffic stops can turn fatal if you are black. Today. As for discrimination: Do your job interviewers see that youre a white male when you walk in? I dont think we're on the same page. We prolly wont ever be. Nothing I can say is new to you Im sure. Youre just not moved by any of it. Looks like a case of 'Ive got mine. Too bad about anybody else.' Good ole boys are always getting a bad rap... Google murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome, Knoxville Tn... Google Chicago murders so far this year... Nice chit stirrin thread, OP...
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Are we really freeeeeeeee?
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The scars of the oppression of one race, or gender, over another last long after the oppression has officially ended. I remember the Jim Crow laws of fifties, and the riots and demonstrations of the sixties. We have come a long way in this country since then. But racism and sexism still thrives.
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Edited by
Funzy65
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Sun 02/19/17 06:12 PM
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NO....WE ARE NOT FREE. 
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But there should be no scars from something that happened to your ancestors and it has absolutely no bearing on current life. Actually I think it is the basis for discrimination, white supremacy, etc which are very much a continued part of current life. In addition, family history is held dear to many, as are old photographs of our ancestors. We keep photo albums and search genealogy because we want to know 'who we are'. If you are white, you probably dont have photographs of slaves. If you are black, you may. In fact you may be related to white plantation owners. The reasons for the latter are nothing short of ugly. human history leaves its imprint on all of us Its no secret that women in this country continue to make less than men for the same work. That stat is even worse if youre a Black, Latino, or Asian woman. I also have family history that does in fact have discrimination in it.. a lot of it actually. and my ancestors too were mistreated.. terribly. actually 1 million of my kind died.. in the Potato famine. And the Irish sure do know discrimination all of which is very well documented, all of which is part of the American history. As is other ethnic groups. And while my relatives have had it hard and my ancestors had it even harder. I never heard a word of that growing up. I knew what happened to " my kind.. my people" but as a family we never dwelled on that. And in the all Irish neighborhood that I grew up in, we never hear about it. Nobody ever dwelled on it. We just continued to better ourselves My point is this, many ethnic groups had it tough.. many.. but they overcame the hardships, the injustices and the outright wrongs and moved on. Improving their live, generation by generation. upward. And I am not saying the " world " is right.. there is a lot of work still to be done. But You remember where you come from...what you are. but that is not a driving factor in your life.. it is history.. something to gauge how far you have come. That happened to my history teacher who told our class in college. As recent as the 1960's. Traffic stops can turn fatal if you are black. Today. As for discrimination: Do your job interviewers see that youre a white male when you walk in? I dont think we're on the same page. We prolly wont ever be. Nothing I can say is new to you Im sure. Youre just not moved by any of it. Looks like a case of 'Ive got mine. Too bad about anybody else.' no.. where not going to agree. And no I'm not moved by it. Why.. because it is history.. stop living in it and you will go further.. and feel less bitter. Were the Irish even hung?.. actually they were.. try looking up the Molly Maguire's.. actually try looking up the Irish.. you may just get a education in discrimination.. its wasn't a black only thing.. ya know. Better yet, take a stroll thru the cemeteries in Louisiana.. take a look at the old headstones.. and all the Irish last names.. you know why?.. because back in the plantation days ( no us Irish folks didn't own any.. cause we were the scum of the earth back then) the Irish were put to work in the swamps before the slaves were... because it was thought the slaves were more valuable then a Irishman... so the Irish died of disease, snakebite or gator attacks.. all to support their families. I have no idea what the people I interview see.. and frankly could care less. I hire the best for the job. And btw.. scores in my company are black.. why.. not because of their color.. but because they are the best for that job... period. And do I have mine?.. yes I do.. and I got it the old fashioned way... I earned it No whining.. no crying foul..no silver spoon. went out there and earned it.. not really a novel approach.. but when all you do is complain.. and look in the past..it doesn't leave much time for positive things.. does it. Have a nice night ;) my friend dont forget that the past created the present. to understand to not to do the same mistakes over and over again we need to understand what really happened and not what was written that happened and that needs much more than just not forgetting. it must be analyzed again and again it must become visible and understandable for the crowds. iam not living in the past but i try to avoid stepping backwards as many societies nowadays do urged or even forced by the so called high developed and modern countries. to understand u cant just look at a phrase u must see the whole. see the world as a whole, see urself as part of the whole. how can we step forward when we have no background no fundamental structure, no consciousness of the evil side of mankind. just forgetting is too easy. we have to go on ofc, but with wisdom knowledge and consciousness not blindly as an easy target. |
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Are we really freeeeeeeee? when u need to ask then u r not hhh me neither if that makes u happy |
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The scars of the oppression of one race, or gender, over another last long after the oppression has officially ended. I remember the Jim Crow laws of fifties, and the riots and demonstrations of the sixties. We have come a long way in this country since then. But racism and sexism still thrives. it must be thematised again and again and u as a witness have the power to raise awareness. we all have power in some way yet we r not aware how powerful we really r.
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The scars of the oppression of one race, or gender, over another last long after the oppression has officially ended. I remember the Jim Crow laws of fifties, and the riots and demonstrations of the sixties. We have come a long way in this country since then. But racism and sexism still thrives. it must be thematised again and again and u as a witness have the power to raise awareness. we all have power in some way yet we r not aware how powerful we really r.
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Are we really freeeeeeeee? when u need to ask then u r not hhh me neither if that makes u happy Membership card to be in the system (social security card) |
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Yes it's true, I agree with everyone..time for us to leave the past and move on. I am trying to learn as well and when I look in the history I still think think about it..it's impossible not too. There are so many things left unsaid... Reference to the scars... I don't have any myself based on the subject. It is a general where people can express their opinion and everything they remember on how it used to be like back in those days. I'm absolutely convinced slavery existence even today in so many countries...Take South Africa for example...India, Somalia, etc etc. And not only old slavery but modern slavery as well. My point is we are leaving in a modern world but yet a world full of scars. I think a historian can explain this so much better than me. at Lois and everyone else, thank you very much! I'm my heart I truly hope and I believe those people who fought to get back their freedom and become free again it is indeed an act of brevity, courage and respect. Thank you, Ms. Harmony, Lois, Greeneyes and Blondey. thank you for acknowledging that past can impact present |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 02/19/17 09:07 PM
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I'm tired of hearing about the silly crap.. Black people were making slaves of each other way before white people thought of it.. No one in my family was rich enough to own slaves, so I carry no guilt... how often do you 'hear' about it really? there has been some form of slavery on every continent throughout history,, but as it pertains to THIS continent,, it was primarily a race based hierarchy,,,,, families separated AGAINST THEIR WILL, stripped of the right to share knowledge of their ancestry, stripped of their very names, born into the status of mere property,, BORN INTO IT ,denied the opportunity to be educated, families separated AGAINST THEIR WILL,,,, that recurring hierarcy, being passed down the culture in its values and standards generation after generation for nearly 365 years(slavery 246 years, and segregation/jim crow for another 100) out of a period of 398 years (1619-2017)sets a pretty deep FOUNDATION of racial hierarchy in the US culture something that's been there 365 years, will not be even close to being corrected in only 50 years,, especially when so many believed that all work was done in only a decade (60s and 70s) it is never about white vs black, because there were whites and blacks who fought to end it,,,,,,,,its about systemic racism and oppression against blacks,,,,,so no one is asking any white person to feel 'guilt' its just necessary for people, of all races, to feel 'aknowledgment' for what happened and feel 'responsible' for making sure the disparate impact is not continually reinforced,, |
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