they feel that someone is saying something against their god or goddesses?

I guess what I don't understand is the emotion that comes out, as if there has been some an attack on your own character.

What defense can anyone really offer to a non-believe who slights your god?

Just trying to understand the psychology, because to me it seems it would be easier to shake your head and walk a away or change the subject.

what would u feel my dear friend if somebody messes with any of your parents?

because they are not strong enough

in their belief to understand

that their anger pushes away

nay chance to convert the transgressor

but hey what do i know

say what?????????????

nay should be

any

TheLonelyWalker,

/applaud

Dianna wrote:
“Just trying to understand the psychology, because to me it seems it would be easier to shake your head and walk a away or change the subject.”

Most people I meet in real life would indeed just walk away or change the subject.

What I’ve noticed on the Internet are basically the following:

1. The converters

People who are trying to sell their point of view become very defense and angry when there’s “No Sale”.

2. The ‘saved’

People who desperately need to believe in their picture of God for their own well-being. They become angry with people who denounce their view of God because that actually threatens their well-being.

3. The ‘saved’ converters

These are people who become doubly angry because they are motivated by both 1 and 2.

4. The innocent by-standers

These are people who see the conversations between the converters and the non-converted and then feel slighted by those conversations because they happen to believe along the lines of the converters, although they seldom agree with them in detail.

5. The innocent victims

These are people who merely say something polite and then get riveted by a callous non-believer. That would make anyone angry even if the topic wasn’t of a religious nature.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head. But obviously there are other triggers that make people angry as well. Some people are just perpetually angry and/or frustrated and they take it out on anyone they can find to argue with.

interesting

very interesting magic man

First of all, if someone was being creuel to any of my friends or family in their presence I would definitly have some words. Even in cases where they aren't present I have calmly stated something like, they may issues you aren't aware of and end it.

But I have friends who have been 'approached' with slights and bad comments, and I sit back and wait, see if they need me, because those are the ones who can take care of themseves.

It just seems to me that God can take care of itself. It's like a fight is going to ensue and God will get a bloody nose! So I never understand the 'defensive posturing' that takes place.

Abra - I've had some the same thoughts, and

ADJ - That was what I was thinking when I created this thread, but it seemed unfair, not to give others a chance to explain.

ok i'm going to say this,i have read alot of the non-believers posts on here and i have came to the conclussion of...

1)y'all are trying to turn believers into non-believers,converting = Hipocrits


or

2)you guys are just doing this for the sake of argument because it seems to me,no religious topic goes untouched by y'all.oh i guess people aren't allowed to have religious beliefs anymore without someone telling them they are wrong for what they believe.


my point is,don't tell people they are trying to push their beliefs on you when you non-believers are doing the same thing.

Jtevens wrote:
“oh i guess people aren't allowed to have religious beliefs anymore without someone telling them they are wrong for what they believe.”

Where have you ever seen a “non-believer” tell someone that if they don’t believe a certain way God will shun them and they will go to hell?

I guess non-believers aren’t allowed to have their “non-beliefs” without someone telling them they are wrong for what they don’t believe.

then why try to argue about what someone believes?that makes me think you're just doing it for arguement and not trying to make a point

I really loved the answer about if someone said something bad about your Mom or Dad......For me, I love God, Christ so much that when people mock, put down.....and my fav call Crist a myth.......It makes me first very very sad. And second it does make me angry. I try to give my point a view without judging others for theirs...because they can believe whatever they want...and I am not their judge. What find the most interesting is Red always wants to learn and really cares about the individual and yet has her points of view. Abra just wants to do battles and doesn't really honestly care if it all was proven as long as he can have the last word.

I have been doing forums for a very very long time....and I just basically say it's done and given to God....because when I do finally blow and look back at the post...I am ashamed.

JT

RE: "Then why try to argue about what someone believes?that makes me think you're just doing it for arguement and not trying to make a point"

Why is a difference of opinion or belief always an argument?

TLW:

Why is disagreement or disbelief always an attack?

I don't understand this constant talk of christians being "attacked". If I say I personnally do not believe that the man known as Jesus of Nazareth was the "son of god" (except in that we are all children of our creator) how am I attacking?

If you say to me that you don't believe we are reincarnated I just say, well, I do believe that we have more than one existance... but it doesn't upset me that you don't share my belief....

I guess it's because of hell? If I believed in Hell I wouldn't want anyone I know to go there either and I would probably have a lot more invested in trying to convince others to share my beliefs...

I'm feeling more in tune with the anger of the chrisitians now that I just saw another post talking about God being in the pledge of allegiance... as I have mentioned SO many times "god" was not in the original pledge...

I guess this is how christians feel when the godliness of their christ is questioned??

IMO - Christians, of all people, should be setting the example as far as having patience with people, and working to get through to them.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself from an "attack", but it should not be done in an aggressive and confrontational manner.

That actually turns people off and defeats the purpose of what a Christian should be doing. You're not gonna convince anybody that you've got the moral high ground, or save anybody from hell, when you're trying to beat them with a verbal baseball bat over the internet for daring to not understand your religion.

You gotta ask yourself what is your priority - trying to give as good an impression of your religion as possible and making as much headway into saving this person as you can, or just bashing on somebody with no real productive result in mind.

to all of you out there...to kinda quote an 18th century french scientist who was a proclaimed agnostic...."....which is the surest bet, to live like there is no god, and find out you are wrong, or to live like there is, and find out you are wrong?"

"JT

RE: "Then why try to argue about what someone believes?that makes me think you're just doing it for arguement and not trying to make a point"

Why is a difference of opinion or belief always an argument?"




when a topic is deleted and then someone brings it back up to get the last word in,that is an argument,not just expressing a difference of opinion.i have seen it happen on here more than once

"when a topic is deleted and then someone brings it back up to get the last word in,that is an argument,not just expressing a difference of opinion.i have seen it happen on here more than once "

Well some people just don't know when to stop talking...
(^^^^is one of those people^^^^)...

But I did want to point out something to you specifically.... you sometimes have referred to non-christians as "unbelievers"... IMO that is inaccurate... just because someones beliefs are different from yours doesn't mean that they don't have beliefs...

my beliefs are just different from yours...

but they are beliefs so I am a "believer"....