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Topic: Terrorist
rindamin666's photo
Sun 11/22/15 06:52 AM
What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?

OdiseoAlecto's photo
Sun 11/22/15 07:05 AM
-Not to be scared, don't surrender to their terror.
-Identify them as the real minimal minority that they really are and not make blanket simplifications
-Show your support against them overtime you have the chance.
-Don't eliminate liberty for security. That is what they want.
-Treat them and consider them for what they really are: rabid criminals without concept of human value.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/15 07:16 AM
terrorist speaks to motivation

much like hate crimes are motivated by bigotry and hate towards a group
terrorist is a crime motivated by political goals or policies


but at the end of the day,, those who have loved ones that were killed while being no threat suffer, whatever the killers motivation

they deserve the justice of having these killers locked away for life where they can only kill each other,,,,,

imho

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 07:31 AM

-Not to be scared, don't surrender to their terror.
-Identify them as the real minimal minority that they really are and not make blanket simplifications
-Show your support against them overtime you have the chance.
-Don't eliminate liberty for security. That is what they want.
-Treat them and consider them for what they really are: rabid criminals without concept of human value.

yep,keep a Stiff Upper Lip and all that Jazz!
Works real great empty-handed!pitchfork

JaiGi's photo
Sun 11/22/15 07:35 AM

What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?


Your question seems more like 'what if i identify a potential terrorist in my neighborhood?'

As per the Old Law - nothing; till he actually guns down lives.

As per yesterday's UN Resolution - anything and everything.
You don't have to wait till he shoots.
You may kill him before he attempts to and then the Law will hang him.

Seems to be the only way.. till the UN finds a way to shut down
religion-based dichotomies.

France's mistake was being in denial!
In India, we know we are at risk and so do the communities housing terrorists.

motowndowntown's photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:01 AM
Fanatic groups such as Al-qaida and ISIS take advantage of people who in one way or another have been disenfranchised by mainstream society. The way to deal with the rise of these "terrorist" groups is to bring the disenfranchised into the mainstream and make fanatic rhetoric untenable.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:14 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/22/15 09:15 AM

Fanatic groups such as Al-qaida and ISIS take advantage of people who in one way or another have been disenfranchised by mainstream society. The way to deal with the rise of these "terrorist" groups is to bring the disenfranchised into the mainstream and make fanatic rhetoric untenable.


another good idea, though the how of it is unclear


I was reading that many of these are drawn in due to the promise of a better life for them and their families as the 'group' takes care of their financial needs

start with the motives, and we may get somewhere

financial motive and desire for notoriety

cut off their press, their media , their financial upperhand,,,,


these would all be very damaging to the cause,,

no photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:54 AM
Hi there,

There is no 2nd opinion that some of the people who claim to be Muslims and may be following the way of Terrorism. And because of them other Muslims are getting affected a lot. Sometimes they are being shown hate and then they are being compelled to come on defense and different aspect of Islam is being talked about with and through them.


However, here I wouldn't like to talk based on taking anyone's side but based on my personal opinion (which may be wrong or right) i think the biggest terrorist today is American govt. itself. How? Let us use some of the words by OdiseoAlecto and msharmony to understand my theory.

Do you even realize that America, some of European countries plus Russia and UK, France, Germany etc are the top most weapon creating and selling machine in the whole world? So it is important to keep the war going for them (even if you can make people fool on the lies of some country's WMD - like Iraq) so that they can produce more weapons and sell more weapons and earn more and more. So they would use all kinda means and feature to create people and organizations so that these organizations can stand up against these western countries and then they (westernized countries) will create more organizations to stand up against those of organizations which have called america for example as a terrorist nation. Then they would sell their weapon again to both of them (sometimes to one and sometimes to others) so that they can kill some of the organization and use media to defame and look this and this bad. This is multi-billion game. And it is sad that ordinary people are not aware of this game throughout the world. With this game each country may use their old weapon to destroy one organization and to check their old weapons and new one as well.

Lets come back on the issue of where i said american govt. itself is a biggest terrorist. So what should we do about it? Like odiseoAlecto says we should not be scared, neither we should surrender to American terror. We should show the support against American terror and should treat them and consider them as they really are: rabid criminals : D I do know some of Americans may not like hearing this but this is reality.

And one last point taken from msharmony that we should cut off the American press (Fox News) and their media and their financial upperhand (WorldBank and IMF).

Cheers,
Abdullah

Kindlightheart's photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:12 AM

What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?

Quit electing them for starters...haha...seriously though.. I think we should lock them up for the rest of their lives and they can only have literature provided to them that is about everything they hate...flowerforyou

Rock's photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:13 AM

What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?


Eradicate them.


... and, I'll say it again.
Not all Muslims are evil.
Some, definitely. But not all.

Evil, has wrapped itself in many disguises, and disguised itself in the cloak of many faiths, since the dawn of recorded history.

The issue is, separating the wheat from the chaff.

no photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:17 AM
Yea, The US should stop funding the UN and all of the humanitarian and medical aid that it has given around the world. Death, starvation and diseases would really make them like US more better.slaphead

no photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:19 AM

What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?


The should have to listen to rap 24/7. That would be the worst punishment of all.drinker

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/15 11:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/22/15 11:30 PM

Yea, The US should stop funding the UN and all of the humanitarian and medical aid that it has given around the world. Death, starvation and diseases would really make them like US more better.slaphead


noone said anything about humanitarian aid,,,,

cells are funded , follow their specific money source and cut it off,,,also cut off the media and resources of those specific cells,,,

also the age old divide and conquer

anonymous has the right idea with digging up skeletons and making them known so that distrust and division occur


IgorFrankensteen's photo
Mon 11/23/15 04:52 AM
Do you mean, what should we do ABOUT terrorists? Or about the THREAT of terrorism? Those are the more complicated questions, since any and all actions to increase personal security inevitably result in a reduction of personal freedom.

the question of what to do about A terrorist is simple: a terrorist is nothing more than a violent criminal. treat them like any violent criminal. Eliminate their ability to do harm.

OdiseoAlecto's photo
Mon 11/23/15 05:08 AM

Yea, The US should stop funding the UN and all of the humanitarian and medical aid that it has given around the world. Death, starvation and diseases would really make them like US more better.slaphead


Just for your info:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/un-member-states-owe-debt
"Debt includes $2.6bn for international peacekeeping efforts, with France owing the most at $356m, followed by the US at $337m".

Death, starvation and disease are usually the result of the "focused help" some states do: the so called "humanitarian help" goes directly to the great multinational pockets, the corrupt murderous regimes and their proxies. Look Syria: the main ammo source use by DAESH is USA produced.

BTW, you missed War to have the 4 raiders of the apocalypse. Less "ora" and more "labora" with your brains is welcomed.

OdiseoAlecto's photo
Mon 11/23/15 05:16 AM

Do you mean, what should we do ABOUT terrorists? Or about the THREAT of terrorism? Those are the more complicated questions, since any and all actions to increase personal security inevitably result in a reduction of personal freedom.

the question of what to do about A terrorist is simple: a terrorist is nothing more than a violent criminal. treat them like any violent criminal. Eliminate their ability to do harm.


The "Threat" is part of the terror strategy.
It is used in two directions:

a)By the terrorist groups: the "menace" of an attack generally gives better results that an attack itself.
b)By the states menaced: those politicians (or supposed-to-be) that are weak and false will always recur to the easiest and more simple solution. That is: cut of liberties and blame the terrorists to any bad thing or bad action taken or suffered. Real politicians know how to cope, to raise the spirits and the values of their countrymen to effectively fight against those terror-mongers.

N.B. In the aftermath of Paris, who is benefitting from the blood spread? Hint: remove DAESH from equation.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 11/23/15 05:26 AM

Tell them there are 5000 unclaimed sheep in the middle of the desert, wait for them to arrive , then turn it to glass... bigsmile

no photo
Mon 11/23/15 05:52 AM
What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?

Who is WE Op?
Does India want to start kicking a@@?

Europe had/ has this 'open door' policy. They can do with them as they see fit.

no photo
Mon 11/23/15 06:43 AM


What should we do with terrorist?
Or what actions should be taken against them?


Your question seems more like 'what if i identify a potential terrorist in my neighborhood?'

As per the Old Law - nothing; till he actually guns down lives.

As per yesterday's UN Resolution - anything and everything.
You don't have to wait till he shoots.
You may kill him before he attempts to and then the Law will hang him.

Seems to be the only way.. till the UN finds a way to shut down
religion-based dichotomies.

France's mistake was being in denial!
In India, we know we are at risk and so do the communities housing terrorists.


As far as I see it France made no mistakes.

Just people going about their own business who were murdered for nothing.


Conrad_73's photo
Mon 11/23/15 07:14 AM

Hi there,

There is no 2nd opinion that some of the people who claim to be Muslims and may be following the way of Terrorism. And because of them other Muslims are getting affected a lot. Sometimes they are being shown hate and then they are being compelled to come on defense and different aspect of Islam is being talked about with and through them.


However, here I wouldn't like to talk based on taking anyone's side but based on my personal opinion (which may be wrong or right) i think the biggest terrorist today is American govt. itself. How? Let us use some of the words by OdiseoAlecto and msharmony to understand my theory.

Do you even realize that America, some of European countries plus Russia and UK, France, Germany etc are the top most weapon creating and selling machine in the whole world? So it is important to keep the war going for them (even if you can make people fool on the lies of some country's WMD - like Iraq) so that they can produce more weapons and sell more weapons and earn more and more. So they would use all kinda means and feature to create people and organizations so that these organizations can stand up against these western countries and then they (westernized countries) will create more organizations to stand up against those of organizations which have called america for example as a terrorist nation. Then they would sell their weapon again to both of them (sometimes to one and sometimes to others) so that they can kill some of the organization and use media to defame and look this and this bad. This is multi-billion game. And it is sad that ordinary people are not aware of this game throughout the world. With this game each country may use their old weapon to destroy one organization and to check their old weapons and new one as well.

Lets come back on the issue of where i said american govt. itself is a biggest terrorist. So what should we do about it? Like odiseoAlecto says we should not be scared, neither we should surrender to American terror. We should show the support against American terror and should treat them and consider them as they really are: rabid criminals : D I do know some of Americans may not like hearing this but this is reality.

And one last point taken from msharmony that we should cut off the American press (Fox News) and their media and their financial upperhand (WorldBank and IMF).

Cheers,
Abdullah

Me thinks you might want to check on the Definition of Terrorism before you make this Type of Statements!laugh rofl

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