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wouldnt it be interesting if it were actually anti immigrant groups STAGING these attacks to look as if immigrants were responsible? ,,,will wait for things settle and more actual FACTS come together,,,,, wouldn that be 'this is for Allah' then? or is syria the motherland of muslims? They just announced that ISIS was behind this mess. ISIS , now we know,,,, it 'looked' like a terrorist, which is not a label specifically or uniquely tied to muslims,,, lol, calling it 'spin' has become the popular 'spin' when folks dont want to address the posts,, but thats cool... and again, I am open to be educated as to how to tell a 'muslim' terrorist from any other,,, if they arent 'dressed' in muslim clothing or screamin allah? You can tell right before they kill you. That's a good way. 
no, Id only know they were killers their religion or cause may not be evident merely because they were about to kill me,,,  more liberal logic...
 and the trend continues
actual logical contributions anyone? |
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wouldnt it be interesting if it were actually anti immigrant groups STAGING these attacks to look as if immigrants were responsible? ,,,will wait for things settle and more actual FACTS come together,,,,, Doesn't seem to be the case....does it. You actually thought that French citizens would do this to their own?...actually murder over 100 people.. including kids.. their own.. in a well planned out attack and then blame it on the Muslims... really?.. you actually considered this??? And by anti immigrant groups you meant non Muslim...right it was a possibility that I pondered, I didnt really specify WHO the anti immigrant persons would be or their origin,,, it would just be a great way to force a war,,,,which to me isnt a far fetched possibility by anti immigrant, I meant those who were mad about the countries that were opening their doors to Syrians (per the 'this is for syria' statements) I didnt have in mind what race, religion, or nationality,, because thats not really what determines who is anti open immigration,, does it? I see.. I understand now.. your thought being, maybe it was that grass roots organization " Sorry we got here first, no more room avalible" Muslim group. Who then proceeded to kill non Muslims. Or the Christian " lets kill our own people to prove a point about the ones we are unhappy about" grass roots group. Or a combo of both. And your first reaction wasn't that the Muslim terrorist were responsible?... Muslims... which of course was the case. And it also seems that the entire world also knew immediately who was responsible for this horrendous crime...especially the Muslims. And I am sure in those French Muslim neighborhoods there were a fair amount of private smiles shared afterwards, between those who knew beforehand of the carnage that was to unfold. I hope the French people turn those neighborhoods upside down to weed out every last animal associated with this. actually and truly some of them WERE french citizens...lol and the piece said nothing about only non muslims dying or being killed, so Im not sure where that piece of information comes from,,,had I had knowledge that NON MUSLIMS specifically were targeted that would be another clue,, but alas no SUCH MENTION of that type of targeting was in the information but back to my point, my thought was these are terrorists,, my thought didnt automatically conclude that the religion was muslim being there was nothing indicating they alluded to religion I didnt EXCLUDE they were responsible, but I didnt automatically ASSUME it either ,,get the difference there? ------------------------- I apologize, didnt realize the topic of the post was 'those damn muslims, they suck,,' but I will continue to post in a public forum, even when my objective observations arent welcome in everyones 'agenda' |
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the question was asked if french people would do this to their own citizens
some French people did as to the rest, Im not naive, Im just not the type of 'american' bigot who immediately ASSUMES coordinated terrrost attack means 'muslim' ( I only point out american because it was stated that my not jumping to this conclusion makes me 'anti american') but we are still not on the point of the thread are we ,,moving on so, now we know that muslims claimed responsibility, all those ASSumptions ended up being right,, here is their award,,,  
its a tragedy, would be tragedy whomever did the killing, and needs to be addressed through multiple avenues,, not just might, but intelligence back to another POINT I contributed that very few wish to focus on apparently,,, perhaps one way, besides MIGHT to address this is to cut off the notoriety and media that allows them to get out those messages and impress upon others and spreads word of their 'cause' and by extension stops its impact,,,, |
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the question was asked if french people would do this to their own citizens some French people did as to the rest, Im not naive, Im just not the type of 'american' bigot who immediately ASSUMES coordinated terrrost attack means 'muslim' ( I only point out american because it was stated that my not jumping to this conclusion makes me 'anti american') but we are still not on the point of the thread are we ,,moving on so, now we know that muslims claimed responsibility, all those ASSumptions ended up being right,, here is their award,,,
its a tragedy, would be tragedy whomever did the killing, and needs to be addressed through multiple avenues,, not just might, but intelligence back to another POINT I contributed that very few wish to focus on apparently,,, perhaps one way, besides MIGHT to address this is to cut off the notoriety and media that allows them to get out those messages and impress upon others and spreads word of their 'cause' and by extension stops its impact,,,, 
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the question was asked if french people would do this to their own citizens some French people did as to the rest, Im not naive, Im just not the type of 'american' bigot who immediately ASSUMES coordinated terrrost attack means 'muslim' ( I only point out american because it was stated that my not jumping to this conclusion makes me 'anti american') but we are still not on the point of the thread are we ,,moving on so, now we know that muslims claimed responsibility, all those ASSumptions ended up being right,, here is their award,,,
its a tragedy, would be tragedy whomever did the killing, and needs to be addressed through multiple avenues,, not just might, but intelligence back to another POINT I contributed that very few wish to focus on apparently,,, perhaps one way, besides MIGHT to address this is to cut off the notoriety and media that allows them to get out those messages and impress upon others and spreads word of their 'cause' and by extension stops its impact,,,,
asked and answered 24 hours after, people are still stuck on obsessing with the blame and the who , instead of the solutions going forward? I suppose thats very 'american' though,,,, |
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the question was asked if french people would do this to their own citizens some French people did as to the rest, Im not naive, Im just not the type of 'american' bigot who immediately ASSUMES coordinated terrrost attack means 'muslim' ( I only point out american because it was stated that my not jumping to this conclusion makes me 'anti american') but we are still not on the point of the thread are we ,,moving on so, now we know that muslims claimed responsibility, all those ASSumptions ended up being right,, here is their award,,,
its a tragedy, would be tragedy whomever did the killing, and needs to be addressed through multiple avenues,, not just might, but intelligence back to another POINT I contributed that very few wish to focus on apparently,,, perhaps one way, besides MIGHT to address this is to cut off the notoriety and media that allows them to get out those messages and impress upon others and spreads word of their 'cause' and by extension stops its impact,,,, more liberal logic... a better way to deal with this is let someone besides liberals take charge and accomplish something, like Putin did... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 11/14/15 03:52 PM
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mm, the solution is for someone else to come up with a solution
got it,,,,, that should do it then,,,, back to 'muslims suck',,,,,,,,I will let you get back on 'topic' one of which I have no contribution,,, 
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what a twisted world
where its true that a lack of bigotry is a lack of compassion and its false that people can live in a country they hate enough to take lives,,, ,,,,,,,,,yeah, I dont fit here ,,,have at it,, 
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The Army football team took to the field today carrying the U.S. and French flag....
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Edited for targeting member opinions.
soufie Site Moderator |
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mm, the solution is for someone else to come up with a solution got it,,,,, that should do it then,,,, back to 'muslims suck',,,,,,,,I will let you get back on 'topic' one of which I have no contribution,,,
obviously liberals ain't coming up with anything that works.. |
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mm, the solution is for someone else to come up with a solution got it,,,,, that should do it then,,,, back to 'muslims suck',,,,,,,,I will let you get back on 'topic' one of which I have no contribution,,,
obviously liberals ain't coming up with anything that works.. |
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mm, the solution is for someone else to come up with a solution got it,,,,, that should do it then,,,, back to 'muslims suck',,,,,,,,I will let you get back on 'topic' one of which I have no contribution,,,
obviously liberals ain't coming up with anything that works.. yea, he's the main reason i can't stand liberals anymore... him and his cronies like H.Clinton and Diane Feinstein... |
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I have never been more disgusted with a President then I am now. Obama is a WIMP. Saying we support France and that he's not going to talk about what's going on any further. What a F'ing POS. This was also an American concert that is being attacked. So what do you suggest he do? Dump more bombs on the Middle East so they blow up some more stuff in France or the rest of Europe? Send more US troops to the Middle East and start WW3? March into Europe with US troops and shoot everyone that looks like a Muslim? And if he'd start a war and American troops get killed, he's a bad president because he made a stupid decision? I'm quite glad he's using his brain and not making rash decisions. You'd probably have given the order to just flatten Europe to kill extremists. But guess what: People live here, you know! Did I say anything about sending troops into Europe? That Son of a Bit$% Barack Obama would barely comment on this horrific attack. What we need to do is settle our petty differences with Russia, China and many other countries and unite and go clean house in the Middle East and wipe out ISIL and Al Qaeda once and for all. ISIL is Obama's mess that he helped create with his pansy approach to threats to the US and our allies. |
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really sad, most were just kids... i hope the liberals learn something here, but i'm really doubting it... Really sad yes...most were just kids and so are most of the "terrorists". According to many witnesses they spoke perfect french and they were in their twenties.... I wonder how those kids most probably born and raised here all of a sudden turn to believe that ISIS is the way to go... I also wonder how much information on what is really going on is known by the public. Mr Holland obviously knew it had to do with Syria before it was confirmed. Sure ISIS has proclaimed war on anything that seems disgusting to them since a long time already...and they manage to get the attention through the internet by calling out kids to just go out and blow themselves, some get 2-3 months training....once they've done it as the media worldwide is reacting to it, it is fueling those kids even more to die as "massacre heroes". That's what is sad and thickening. Another sad thing is that either way it is serving extremists...and the increasing fear leads people to give up their freedom. On the other hand how much freedom is to give to religious cult when the fundamental thought end up in killings ? I don't have the answers...only wondering... Being a European I agree with Crystal : Hand out arms to the Europeans that have little to no history being armed and we might end up in a Mad Max kind of world. I am a European,and I don't! I'm trying to understand why ? Switzerland has been a good example so far, or do you disagree ? And I doubt the Swiss are at risk... European and Western Country and Allies are at risk. |
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these refugees we let in
how many have had a background check? what happens when the bombs start going off on home soil? when average american citizens no longer have the right to bare arms? when a state of emergency is declared in our own country? |
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these refugees we let in how many have had a background check? what happens when the bombs start going off on home soil? when average american citizens no longer have the right to bare arms? when a state of emergency is declared in our own country? |
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do you really consider having a gun on par with having a vote? have many people voted someone dead,, I mean,, directly? Juries do it on almost a daily basis. |
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wouldnt it be interesting if it were actually anti immigrant groups STAGING these attacks to look as if immigrants were responsible? ,,,will wait for things settle and more actual FACTS come together,,,,, Doesn't seem to be the case....does it. You actually thought that French citizens would do this to their own?...actually murder over 100 people.. including kids.. their own.. in a well planned out attack and then blame it on the Muslims... really?.. you actually considered this??? And by anti immigrant groups you meant non Muslim...right it was a possibility that I pondered, I didnt really specify WHO the anti immigrant persons would be or their origin,,, it would just be a great way to force a war,,,,which to me isnt a far fetched possibility by anti immigrant, I meant those who were mad about the countries that were opening their doors to Syrians (per the 'this is for syria' statements) I didnt have in mind what race, religion, or nationality,, because thats not really what determines who is anti open immigration,, does it? I see.. I understand now.. your thought being, maybe it was that grass roots organization " Sorry we got here first, no more room avalible" Muslim group. Who then proceeded to kill non Muslims. Or the Christian " lets kill our own people to prove a point about the ones we are unhappy about" grass roots group. Or a combo of both. And your first reaction wasn't that the Muslim terrorist were responsible?... Muslims... which of course was the case. And it also seems that the entire world also knew immediately who was responsible for this horrendous crime...especially the Muslims. And I am sure in those French Muslim neighborhoods there were a fair amount of private smiles shared afterwards, between those who knew beforehand of the carnage that was to unfold. I hope the French people turn those neighborhoods upside down to weed out every last animal associated with this. actually and truly some of them WERE french citizens...lol and the piece said nothing about only non muslims dying or being killed, so Im not sure where that piece of information comes from,,,had I had knowledge that NON MUSLIMS specifically were targeted that would be another clue,, but alas no SUCH MENTION of that type of targeting was in the information but back to my point, my thought was these are terrorists,, my thought didnt automatically conclude that the religion was muslim being there was nothing indicating they alluded to religion I didnt EXCLUDE they were responsible, but I didnt automatically ASSUME it either ,,get the difference there? ------------------------- I apologize, didnt realize the topic of the post was 'those damn muslims, they suck,,' but I will continue to post in a public forum, even when my objective observations arent welcome in everyones 'agenda' I would love to hear you explain your " objective observations" to those 129 families. |
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which observation?
that I wasnt SURE who was responsible until someone claimed responsibility? or that now that isis has taken responsibility we should approach it at different angles besides just 'might',, like intelligence and surveillance of internet and media(which is how recruiting and promoting take hold, as well as how the motivation of notoriety and martyrdom are accomplished)? yeah, Im sure those families are interested in peoples opinions right now,,, unless one was muslim, and then perhaps I could tell them the observation of how it was the fault of them and their religion and how Im sorry but I have to just throw them in with the rest of the spoiled fruit as potential threats themselves? ...nah, Im not into the posturing , a time and place for everything and all all Id want to say to ANYONE losing family is to pass on my condolences ,,, |
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