Topic: why are we so naive?
TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 10/16/07 10:47 PM
I can come up with anything that i want an present a set of fact of how messed up I am, expecting everybody to come and say:
"oh I'm sorry miguel." But why do you believe me?
I may be bull****ting, or just presenting my side of the facts.
In order to get pity of attention
People for God's sake not everything that shines is Gold.
We need more facts in order to judge that i need pity or suport specially when somebody else involved in my simulated cry out.

saturnswirls's photo
Tue 10/16/07 10:53 PM
I'm never too quick to rush in and offer sugar sprinkled huggles to people online that I don't really know. Like you said they are only presenting their side of things and it may be completey biased.

wouldee's photo
Tue 10/16/07 10:57 PM
You just told all the ladies that you're back dooring their hearts. I hope you pull this before any of them reads this

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 10/16/07 10:58 PM
"I think, ergo I am"

William Shakespeare.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:00 PM
wouldee, I used the pronoun "I" in order not to offend anybody.

glitterybee's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:04 PM
People offering sympathies usually just feel its polite I guess...ohwell or maybe they've been in a similar situation.

no photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:05 PM
Well, it is naive. On the other hand, the first step towards trust is an ability to take someone at their word.

What we have here is an evolving community. And the sense of community that has developed has also created a sort of closeness between many of us. There are people here who I have dealt with for months, who I feel I "know" (and yes, possibly completely erroneously) well enough to sympathize and empathize with.

Could they be completely different in real life, from who they appear to be here? Sure. And maybe I'm naive enough to fall for that.

But that's OK, in the long run, because I would rather risk being fooled and continue to try to be a good and supportive friend, than live my life in fear and suspicion. I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, so to speak, until I feel they have conclusively proven otherwise.

And, in the end, even if I did get fooled by someone, that's one person. That doesn't give me any reason to become suspicious of all the others I know here. Each person, after all, is an individual with an individual situation. I have always been adamant in my insistence that the "gender stereotyping" ("Why do all men __________? Why are all women ____________?") is counterproductive, and does nothing but hamper those of us who are actually interested in real communication.

By the same token, stereotyping of everyone here, for example, is just as bad. One person may deceive us, but that has no bearing on what the next person -- or the next 100 people -- do.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:11 PM
somethings are pretty obvious at the first instance.
it's like saying it's day, when the moon and the start are out.

Beachfarmer's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:25 PM
Well Miguel, since you used the pronoun "I", there are many of us who have read not just your statements, but your reactions. We admire people we feel we have gotten to "know". Perhaps this may be (as Lex eloquently said) erroneously.

Maybe you have created a persona. Those of us who enjoy reading, storytelling, theater, etc. can identify, sympathize, and empathize with even fictional characters.

.....but I guess most of us are here for "true" connection.

All that we right, quote, or even copy and paste tells something about ourselves.

I think "ALL" of us are here to be acknowledged and to acknowledge common bonds. I'm guilty of pontification (like nowlaugh ) and I appreciate any reaction I get. If someone is in need of some sympathy...even if repeatative and dramatic...I'm willing to give some. If I feel I (sort of) know you and identify with you, I'll engage in with absolute intent.
If you are BS-ing me, "I" have still held fast to my ideals in looking past the fear of gullibility.

Jess642's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:30 PM
It is day.

I looked.


flowerforyou


As to seeking pity...each to their own, I had someone misinterpret my feeble attempt at humour, and thought I required consoling....that was a bit tricky to detangle from...noway


There is a humanness to these forums, and with so many cultures, and personalities, it really is one big soup, with ALL the ingredients.

Being judgemental is not my right, although I do huff and puff at times...

I hope you feel better in yourself soon, Miguel.flowerforyou

catchme_ifucan's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:35 PM
:wink: Then you can't sing memememememememe thou...


Beachfarmer's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:36 PM
It's day where YOU are Lee:wink: laugh flowerforyou
It's all about perspective I guess. <-----laugh How vague was that?

Jess642's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:38 PM
That was the most limp, floppy, summing up I have heard in at least an hour Joel...laugh laugh laugh

no photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:38 PM
Miguel are you saying that people lie on the internet????noway noway noway noway noway

Beachfarmer's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:40 PM
Let's leave the "oopsy" out of this.:tongue:

saturnswirls's photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:42 PM
Blasphemy Gypsy! laugh laugh laugh

no photo
Tue 10/16/07 11:59 PM
well I try to be honest on the net but there are alot who just like to make themselves look good......grumble grumble grumble

Jtevans's photo
Wed 10/17/07 12:56 AM
The Internet-Be as goodlooking as you want to be