I believe in the one true God... And when it comes to this level of discussion it is absolutely pointless to have. Neither side can absolutely "prove" anything along the lines of God, if there is one or not, ect. I have felt the presense of God, so I believe.

Just casually talking/sharing the different thoughts, feelings, beliefs, ect. It's the belief I believe to be true, outside that, wouldn't know what to tell you from your question.

I totally agree with you, it wasn't my intention to start an argument, simply like to discuss it respectfully.
I call myself agnostic, as a way of admitting that I'm just a human. I think there's a higher force, just not sure is it's what others call god. I respect all beliefs / or lack thereof.

I think if everyone lived according to, "be the change you want to see," and "treat others the was you wish to be treated," it would be a different world, no matter what one believes.

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The OP is CATHOLIC. Her friend is CHRISTIAN. People (most of us), TRY to meet people or give the (asked for) advice.. on THEIR level. Now that the thread has been moved to "General Region", it can be discussed.
* Not all Christians Evangelize or try to recruit.... TV preacher- myth
You could always make a separate thread, in General or Other.. Religion*

Your right, I was raised catholic, in a very catholic city. Catholics are quite tolerant. It's my culture

Hi Mamas! ...Tell your friend this...Don't rely on others...Follow your own heart, write your own song...

According to your religion, the men can do whatever they wish. Everything bad falls on the woman, including the brutal, barbaric practice of female circumcision whose sole purpose is to deny the female sexual pleasure so she won't be tempted to cheat. If she is raped and violated by her pedophile disgusting uncle, which happens more often than you want to admit in some "pious" cultures, it is considered her fault and she must be stoned to death.

Let me get this straight. It is immoral to wear bikinis? They expose the flesh and entice and corrupt and tempt the men. The women are once again portrayed as evil seductresses rather than men caving in to their baser desires. If it was up to Muslims, they would take over every country and force all the women to wear burqas and subject all CIVILIZED people to an azz backwards culture that should have gone out with the dark ages. Western society has a problem with Sharia law. That is why it is being banned in many countries, including France, which is taken over and plagued by the Muslim population. Let's not forget Palestinians, who want to kill off all the Jews. Muslims have tormented the Jews for thousands of years. No one understood Israel's pain until the terrorists started attacking people on other soils. Now, they understand. Maybe in theory Islam is peaceful but in practice, it is vile and an act of terror to all countries. All the Muslims want to do is convert every country to their way of thinking and living. We have managed without your culture and crazy laws for eons and we will continue to manage and fight you every step of the way. Valhalla and Salaam

Tell your men to stop preying on white women. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. They slobber all over me. Ugh

It works both ways. A person using their mind to know what is right and wrong and what the society is expecting. I'll use an example here. Here in Pakistan things are messed up you would never see streets being cleaned up, all the mess is around, People don't care about simple laws of society, like to stop on red lights on roads, they know that the more the greenery would be around, the more would be help upon the weather yet they would never care about planting and caring for trees etc etc.

But the same individual from Pakistan when goes to uae, or Singapore or even to Europe for work, they would certainly abide by the laws and become more practical and more good for the society. So at one hand, the action of a particular person in Pakistan is bad because he thinks no one would blame him as most of them are doing what he does. And once he goes to another country, he would act the good as the most of the society is doing what they expect him to do.

So it means such codes work both ways on individual bases and on societal level. I think sometimes for a certain moral code it needs at least 10 years or a generation to be in the genes to accept it.

For example, when i tell kids in school, never to lie, never yell on your parents, be good to each other and other moral-codes so the chance is when they would grow up and their off-springs might have it on their genes, so although, i tried to force it on them but it took a generation for they to really think and accept it..

i know not many people understand what i am saying, but still i would say certain basic moral codes need to be forced on young ones, in the hope that at least the coming generation gets the food.

And here i am only talking about a moral-codes or morality, as far as religion, belief and faith is concerned it is all about using your head and learning about it.

Pass the popcorn

In short.. .... Thread starts out in Welcome... & is moved

1- The OP is Catholic, but for some reason is worried about the relationship between a man Hindu & a woman Christian

2- Then " Be not unevenly yoked " *Christian usuall response*

3- Then. Lots of blah blah blah

3- Then a Muslim man, decides the problem would never exist, if everyone was Muslim. And men can do whatever they want.

4- Then a Jewish woman says, for the most part " Oh Hell no! "

5- Stay tuned...

because somehow "The RC Pope" will be blamed for the entire thread...
Or maybe the Vatican



Any Hindi in the house to offer another solution?

Or a Buddist to say " breath" & try to convince everyone else " It will all be alright in the next life "?
* Rhetorical*

this is like any other difference in values

it just depends upon what parts of their value systems correlate to each other,, and how dedicated they are to those values

and if there are children they will raise together, as ONE family

no, it's the control factor that is the most important... people are easier to control when a deep rooted fear is involved...

If both are passionate about their beliefs and it is important to them, then yeah it would probably cause a problem.

I look for relationships with similar beliefs, morals, values

thats why i was saying if they actually love each other, like both religions say, it can work... but if they love their god more, it won't work...


but usually in these types of relationships, the religion is just a way out after the sex is done....

Hitler killed million more or less, and Hitler was not Muslim rather a Christian. American dropped dirty bomb on Japan killing more than one million. And American mainly are Christians. USSR was a christian as well and attacked Afghanistan for no reasons. Americans again killed million or more in Afghanistan, Iraq and else where and American again killed thousands if not million, in Vet Nam and Korea. Israel is a Jew, so for 600 years Jews killed christian, read the history, but now suddenly the things changed, Jews are less in number and they need Christians help to massacre the Muslims so finally they took the land of Palestinian Muslims in 1948 by jeopardizing the world and UN law. And oh wow, Palestinians are Muslims they are terrorists for holding stones in hands and Israelis are angels even they hold guns, tanks and fire straight on and kill and not only that but drop hell fire and cluster bombs (which is forbidden to use by even UN resolutions) and destroy the buildings as well. Hindus in Kashmir from 1948 till now killing thousands of Muslims. Because they are not man enough to let the kashmiri Muslims decide if they wanna live separate or with Pakistan. Oh wow what a story of "non Muslims angels" yeah right the only terrorists are Muslim!!!!??

Lastly, i would say no Muslim man ever say that Muslim men can do anything at all and its all faults of women. Rather we say that it goes for both of Muslim men and women hand in hand. Women have to dress properly and their skin should not be shown (even nuns dress with some dignity and they are Christians btw) and Muslim men should be nice as well. Muslim men should live by the golden principles of Qur'an and Muslim women as well. And this is the basic free willed propagation of muslims towards humanity to read qur'an, because Qur'an is the future for all of the humanity.

circumcision for women, check here:

http://islamqa.info/en/45528

I like being with like minded myself. But hey...that's just me. Problem is...I think I am finding like minded but end up with looney tunes

i'm open to religious women, even tho i'm not religious... i can see how it can work, but some peoples faith just takes precedence, no matter what...

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..Dennis Miller's classic Mideast rant

"A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service
to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of
the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need.
Don't thank me.I'm a giver. Here we go:
The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about
that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word.
Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan,"
"Palestinian"sounds ancient but is really a modern invention.
Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and
there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by
Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took
over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you
know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond
with their lost "land" and "nation."

So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any
more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths
until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them
what they are: "Other Arabs Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather
Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And
Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN.
How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."
Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one
more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time
in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if
you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage
trucks and
Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some
way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other
Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel.

They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course-that's where the real
fun is-but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to
destroy Israel-or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it-for
the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert
the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the
blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's
Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's
really saying something.

It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic
about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm
missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since
Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five
million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and
Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these
same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches,
everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what
about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant
din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea?
Oh, that? We were just kidding.
My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse
the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I
was stunned at the simple brilliance of it.

Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite
to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at
their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the
sea? Nonsense.

Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible.
Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their
bread with the blood of children? Disgusting.

No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews
would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with
vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our
interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as
possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a
roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away.
However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing
moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president
told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the
countries that supported them. Beautiful.

Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of
an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same
thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.
If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would
all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done
with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the
Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad id . . . uh,
that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)"

I would say depends on each person devotion to the faith... most do not hold fanatical views and are willing to compromise. Love conquers all... so they say.