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Topic: WHY ISIS ARE "FRAUD" MUSLIMS
Niallgk Joined Sat 10/29/11 Posts: 27	Sun 03/08/15 05:50 PM
someone is deleting the ]quote[ at the top when replying mea culpa.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Sun 03/08/15 05:56 PM Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Sun 03/08/15 05:57 PM
We're being CENCORED !!!!!!! Somebody, wants to inhibit our conversation.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 03/08/15 05:59 PM
We're being CENCORED !!!!!!! Somebody, wants to inhibit our conversation. it's obama...

Niallgk Joined Sat 10/29/11 Posts: 27	Sun 03/08/15 06:03 PM Edited by Niallgk on Sun 03/08/15 06:05 PM
and they are muslims, right? so i'm confused as to wth your trying to say here... Correct, they are (or at least claim to be Muslims. I have Muslim friends whose compatriates are being butchered by these evil monsters, Da'esh have killed thousands in Syria and Iraq amoungst other places. What I'm trying to point out is that there are hundreds of millions of Muslims that have no truck with this abomination of the religion of Islam. Sunni Muslims Shia Muslims, Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Zoroastians, etc, etc, have lived together in peace for well over 1,000 years in places like Syria, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Egypt, Morocco and so on. Da'ash is entirely alien to their beliefs and culture of respect and tolerance.

Niallgk Joined Sat 10/29/11 Posts: 27	Sun 03/08/15 06:39 PM Edited by Niallgk on Sun 03/08/15 06:45 PM
Interestingly Da'esh is the Arabic acronym for ISIL/IS but when spoken, sounds very like the words "trample under foot".

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 03/08/15 07:58 PM
Interestingly Da'esh is the Arabic acronym for ISIL/IS but when spoken, sounds very like the words "trample under foot". yea, i guess i'm done with these types of disscussions, they are muslims, you can call them what you like, makes no difference when they are chopping someones head off...

jagbird Joined Mon 07/15/13 Posts: 28720	Tue 03/10/15 06:58 AM Edited by jagbird on Tue 03/10/15 06:59 AM
SheikOfLaBroquerie: Okay You Two... Here's a thought... Try to imagine the place where You've lived all Your life, including Your Parents and Your Parents, Parents, and Your Parents, Parents, Parents, and NOW somebody comes along and says, "'You've gotta get out of here... We want this land and the home You're in!'" No compensation, either... Just "'Get Out...! We don't care where You go, but we don't want You in the same home You've lived in for over a thousand years previous.'" You wouldn't like it either, would You? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Agreed.. My Indigenous ancestors never liked it either, when they were told this by Europeans.., but my people didn't group everyone together in the same mould... We see that there is good and bad, in all people... Just another example of injustice, though... It has happened to various Peoples across the world..., in various parts of history... What my main point was at the beginning of this thread, was to separate the religious from the ridiculous... ISIS are claiming that the "interpretation" they follow is the "one & only"/ true interpretation..., while many Muslim religious leaders disagree with this... Niallgk: Agreeing to disagree is an option for anyone... It's not always productive to continue debates, when it isn't going anywhere... Sometimes, reflection is needed.., to digest the other position... I actually do understand what you are saying.., but this "grouping" together is what I am against.. You have one interpretation you keep referring to.., but if you re-read this thread again, you might see that I have addressed it already... Maybe not to your satisfaction.., but I'm not in a battle of "I'm right.., you're wrong"..., like so many internet debates I read... I am fine in stating my position (as you have) .. and letting others come to their own conclusions.. This is probably why I don't involve myself in a lot of these kinds of debates.. I'm not here to try and sway people's opinions.... Everyone is an individual..

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 03/10/15 11:56 AM
Excellent Point Jagbird...! And while I could admittedly say my own ancestors imposed their presents upon native society here in Canada, I don't prefer to think that every choice-area of residency was solely taken by Europeans. I'm not against an ancestral people like the displaced Jewish people who are returning after more than a thousand year-long exile from coming back to Jerusalem and the surrounding area. The part I'm indignant about is the exploitation without any effort to reintegrate with what are their own ancestors that never left.

JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Tue 03/10/15 01:59 PM Edited by JOHNN111 on Tue 03/10/15 02:06 PM
The part I'm indignant about is the exploitation without any effort to reintegrate with what are their own ancestors that never left. I'm not sure what you mean Sheik, the whole reintegration process has been sabotaged by both sides since the start. Different decades, different players and same damn results. Hamas poking, Israel dropping the hammer. But you know as well as I do, fundamental Islam will never allow full integration it's just not possible and the Israelis hate them more because of it. Will never trust them, Ever. Another catastrophe needs to happen ... And Satanyahoo is just the man for the job Edit* ISIS is no worse than Muslims who refuse the existence of their neighbor IMO

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 03/10/15 02:14 PM
The part I'm indignant about is the exploitation without any effort to reintegrate with what are their own ancestors that never left. I'm not sure what you mean Sheik, the whole reintegration process has been sabotaged by both sides since the start. Different decades, different players and same damn results. Hamas poking, Israel dropping the hammer. But you know as well as I do, fundamental Islam will never allow full integration it's just not possible and the Israelis hate them more because of it. Will never trust them, Ever. Another catastrophe needs to happen ... And Satanyahoo is just the man for the job Edit* ISIS is no worse than Muslims who refuse the existence of their neighbor IMO Well, sabotaged is the word for it... And You know who started the war at Port Said, right? . . . . . . . . . . . . The Joint French/English Secret Service. (In Case You Didn't Know)

Niallgk Joined Sat 10/29/11 Posts: 27	Tue 03/10/15 05:00 PM Edited by Niallgk on Tue 03/10/15 05:05 PM
Niallgk: Agreeing to disagree is an option for anyone... It's not always productive to continue debates, when it isn't going anywhere... Sometimes, reflection is needed.., to digest the other position... I actually do understand what you are saying.., but this "grouping" together is what I am against.. You have one interpretation you keep referring to.., but if you re-read this thread again, you might see that I have addressed it already... Maybe not to your satisfaction.., but I'm not in a battle of "I'm right.., you're wrong"..., like so many internet debates I read... I am fine in stating my position (as you have) .. and letting others come to their own conclusions.. This is probably why I don't involve myself in a lot of these kinds of debates.. I'm not here to try and sway people's opinions.... Everyone is an individual.. I really don't understand Jagbird why you keep saying you are against what you call "grouping together" in relation to Da'esh/ISIS. I understand that the vast majority of 1.6 billion true Muslims are agast at their activities and want no truck with these fanatics. Any fascist regime from Franco's Spain to the old USSR was very capable of corrupting the minds it's employees, from the army to the juditiary. Da'esh is a fascist regime with a very clear and well thought-out ideology that is being currently being imposed within the areas that they control. They corrupt everything and everyone it has under its control. There is no question of good and bad here in my opinion. With this kind of religion or politics or ideology -call it what you will - there is only one solution for a cancer of this nature - you cut it out in the most painless way possible for the patient, which in this case, is the Middle East.

stevenewguy Joined Mon 03/02/15 Posts: 5	Tue 03/10/15 06:48 PM
O.M.G....<O MY GOODNESS>came here to meet lady friend but note to all on this topic...IT S GOOD for business if your a western arms dealer or security adviser.Check out cbc radio for all the dirt.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 03/10/15 07:18 PM
C.B.C. Radio...? (Canadian Broadcast Corporation) All they do is play Classical Music till Your ears bleed!

jagbird Joined Mon 07/15/13 Posts: 28720	Fri 03/13/15 08:12 AM
It appears many Canadian Muslim leaders are now backing up my thread title.., coming forward and denouncing ISIS as Muslims, too.. Good to see this....! "Canadian imams issue fatwa on ISIS supporters, calling them non-Muslim" COPY & PASTE LINK ---> http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-imams-issue-fatwa-on-isis-supporters-calling-them-non-muslim-1.2275582#

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Fri 03/13/15 09:23 AM
It appears many Canadian Muslim leaders are now backing up my thread title.., coming forward and denouncing ISIS as Muslims, too.. Good to see this....! "Canadian imams issue fatwa on ISIS supporters, calling them non-Muslim" COPY & PASTE LINK ---> http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-imams-issue-fatwa-on-isis-supporters-calling-them-non-muslim-1.2275582# who cares? just a bunch of PC bull&$@#... doesn't matter what anyone calls them, they are still going to kill people...

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 03/13/15 09:28 AM
The part I'm indignant about is the exploitation without any effort to reintegrate with what are their own ancestors that never left. I'm not sure what you mean Sheik, the whole reintegration process has been sabotaged by both sides since the start. Different decades, different players and same damn results. Hamas poking, Israel dropping the hammer. But you know as well as I do, fundamental Islam will never allow full integration it's just not possible and the Israelis hate them more because of it. Will never trust them, Ever. Another catastrophe needs to happen ... And Satanyahoo is just the man for the job Edit* ISIS is no worse than Muslims who refuse the existence of their neighbor IMO Well, sabotaged is the word for it... And You know who started the war at Port Said, right? . . . . . . . . . . . . The Joint French/English Secret Service. (In Case You Didn't Know)

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 03/13/15 09:31 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 03/13/15 09:47 AM
It appears many Canadian Muslim leaders are now backing up my thread title.., coming forward and denouncing ISIS as Muslims, too.. Good to see this....! "Canadian imams issue fatwa on ISIS supporters, calling them non-Muslim" COPY & PASTE LINK ---> http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-imams-issue-fatwa-on-isis-supporters-calling-them-non-muslim-1.2275582# who cares? just a bunch of PC bull&$@#... doesn't matter what anyone calls them, they are still going to kill people... Exactly! http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/scarborough-panel-isis-very-muslim http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/02/19/exploding-myth-islamic-state-isnt-islamic-kills-muslims/ http://barbwire.com/2015/02/23/0645-proof-isis-and-their-jihad-brethren-are-islamic/ just a little reminder for the Reform-Koran Followers!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 03/13/15 09:53 AM
It is actually the Reform-Muslims who are not following the Directions of the Prophet,not the more extreme Factions! One reason why you rarely hear them speaking out against the excesses of their Brethren! They know,they will be next in line even before the Infidel for that Haircut down to their Necks!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 03/13/15 10:06 AM
It's hit-and-miss with this Quote Feature in the blue. Sabotage I tells ya,Sabotage! Try an extra Space below the End-Quote of the previous Post!

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Fri 03/13/15 01:57 PM
It is actually the Reform-Muslims who are not following the Directions of the Prophet,not the more extreme Factions! I resent being called a 'Reform-Muslim', Conrad. I'd sooner be called an Original-Muslim, if anything! So, arguably, YES...! The Original (A.K.A Reform)-Muslims aren't following the would-be directions of the Prophet, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL HADETHES !!!!!! ************************************************************************** By-the-way... Thank You, Conrad... I think I've finally figured-out how the >QUOTE< feature works on this site.