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Topic: WHY ISIS ARE "FRAUD" MUSLIMS
brobri's photo
Tue 03/17/15 12:41 PM

You know the problem with making excuses like that?
Now the onus of the burden of proof is on you to prove your claim.

Word of the day: Onus

used to refer to something that is one's duty or responsibility.
"the onus is on you to show that you have suffered loss"
synonyms: burden, responsibility, liability, obligation, duty, weight, load, charge, mantle, encumbrance

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Tue 03/17/15 12:44 PM
IT’S OFFICIAL: ‘Al-Qaeda’ spokesman Adam Gadahn (a.k.a. Pearlman) is scion of Jewish ADL

June 14, 2009



Even the (Jewish-run) mainstream media now admits that ‘Adam Ghadan’ — an ‘Al-Qaeda’ spokesman known for making absurd calls-to-arms against ‘infidels’ and ‘Zio-Crusaders’ — is, in fact, the grandson of a prominent board member of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League:
The Los Angeles Times: ‘Gadahn’s grandfather was Dr. Carl K. Pearlman, a well-known Orange County urologist who died in 1998.’

Haaretz: ‘Gadahn’s grandfather was well-known urologist Carl Pearlman, an active member of the Jewish community in Orange County California.’

The Orange County Register (2006): Carl Pearlman’s activism included ‘serving as the first local chairman of the Bonds for Israel campaign and then as chairman of the United Jewish Welfare Fund. He was on the board of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)…’

For the complete text of these articles (along with one from CNN that neglects to mention the name ‘Pearlman’ once), READ MORE.

American Al-Qaeda member Adam Gadahn tells of Jewish roots in video
The Los Angeles Times
June 14, 2009

Adam Gadahn, a Southern California-raised man self-described as American Al-Qaeda has released a new video in which he talks about his Jewish ancestry.

Gadahn, known as “Azzam the American”, lived in Garden Grove in the 1990s after growing up on a goat farm in rural Riverside County. The FBI said he converted to Islam as a youth, left the United States around 1998 and later was associated with senior Al Qaeda lieutenant Abu Zubaida in Pakistan and attended training camps in Afghanistan.

In the new video, obtained by CNN, Gadahn talks about his background. “Let me here tell you something about myself and my biography, in which there is a benefit and a lesson,” Gadahn said. “Your speaker has Jews in his ancestry, the last of whom was his grandfather.”

Gadahn’s grandfather was Dr. Carl K. Pearlman, a well-known Orange County urologist who died in 1998. Pearlman, who was Jewish, received a community-service award in 1985 from the Orange County chapter of the National Conference of Christians and Jews, which has since changed its name to the National Conference for Community and Justice, for his work in the expansion of St. Joseph Hospital in Orange.

In the video, Gadahn refers to his grandfather, saying he was “a zealous supporter of the usurper entity, and a prominent member of a number of Zionist hate organizations. … He used to repeat to me what he claimed are the virtues of this entity and encouraged me to visit it, specifically the city of Tel Aviv, where relatives of ours live,” he said.

The above article can be found at: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/american-al-qaeda-adam-gadahn-talks-about-jewish-southern-california-roots-in-new-video.html
Also:

American Al-Qaida member acknowledges his Jewish roots
Haaretz (Israel)
June 14, 2009

An American Al-Qaida member has for the first time acknowledged his Jewish ancestry, in an official video message released over the weekend by the international terrorist network.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn — who also goes by the name Azzam the American — declared his roots in a video which surfaced on Saturday, using the opportunity to urge Muslims to use “our weapons, funds and Jihad against the Jews and their allies everywhere.”

“Let me here tell you something about myself and my biography, in which there is a benefit and a lesson,” Gadahn says in the video, speaking in Arabic with English subtitles. “Your speaker has Jews in his ancestry, the last of whom was his grandfather.”

Gadahn, 30, was raised in rural California and converted to Islam in the mid-1990s, when he moved to Pakistan and joined Al-Qaida. In 2006, the United States has charged him with treason and with providing material support to Al-Qaida. The FBI has placed him on its most wanted list and is offering a $1 million reward for his capture.

In the video, Gadahn describes his grandfather as a “Zionist” and “zealous supporter of the usurper entity, and a prominent member of a number of Zionist hate organizations… He used to repeat to me what he claimed are the virtues of this entity and encouraged me to visit [Israel], specifically the city of Tel Aviv, where relatives of ours live.”

Gadahn’s grandfather was well-known urologist Carl Pearlman, an active member of the Jewish community in Orange County California.

Gadahn says that despite his grandfather’s attempt to impart the ideology, he could never embrace “the Jews’ rape of Muslim Palestine.”

How can a person with an ounce of self-respect possibly stand in the ranks of criminals and killers who have no morals, no mercy, no humanity and indeed, no honor?” Gadahn says of Zionism. “Isn’t it shameful enough for a person to carry the citizenship of America, the symbol of oppression and tyranny and advocate of terror in the world?”

Although Gadahn’s Jewish roots have been reported before in the media, terrorism analyst Laura Mansfield told CNN that this was the first official acknowledgement. According to Mansfield, the video was probably taped in spring, prior to U.S. President Barack Obama’s address to the Muslim world in Cairo

The above article can be found at:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1092707.html

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Tue 03/17/15 12:47 PM

IT’S OFFICIAL: ‘Al-Qaeda’ spokesman Adam Gadahn (a.k.a. Pearlman) is scion of Jewish ADL

June 14, 2009



Even the (Jewish-run) mainstream media now admits that ‘Adam Ghadan’ — an ‘Al-Qaeda’ spokesman known for making absurd calls-to-arms against ‘infidels’ and ‘Zio-Crusaders’ — is, in fact, the grandson of a prominent board member of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League:
The Los Angeles Times: ‘Gadahn’s grandfather was Dr. Carl K. Pearlman, a well-known Orange County urologist who died in 1998.’

Haaretz: ‘Gadahn’s grandfather was well-known urologist Carl Pearlman, an active member of the Jewish community in Orange County California.’

The Orange County Register (2006): Carl Pearlman’s activism included ‘serving as the first local chairman of the Bonds for Israel campaign and then as chairman of the United Jewish Welfare Fund. He was on the board of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)…’

For the complete text of these articles (along with one from CNN that neglects to mention the name ‘Pearlman’ once), READ MORE.

American Al-Qaeda member Adam Gadahn tells of Jewish roots in video
The Los Angeles Times
June 14, 2009

Adam Gadahn, a Southern California-raised man self-described as American Al-Qaeda has released a new video in which he talks about his Jewish ancestry.

Gadahn, known as “Azzam the American”, lived in Garden Grove in the 1990s after growing up on a goat farm in rural Riverside County. The FBI said he converted to Islam as a youth, left the United States around 1998 and later was associated with senior Al Qaeda lieutenant Abu Zubaida in Pakistan and attended training camps in Afghanistan.

In the new video, obtained by CNN, Gadahn talks about his background. “Let me here tell you something about myself and my biography, in which there is a benefit and a lesson,” Gadahn said. “Your speaker has Jews in his ancestry, the last of whom was his grandfather.”

Gadahn’s grandfather was Dr. Carl K. Pearlman, a well-known Orange County urologist who died in 1998. Pearlman, who was Jewish, received a community-service award in 1985 from the Orange County chapter of the National Conference of Christians and Jews, which has since changed its name to the National Conference for Community and Justice, for his work in the expansion of St. Joseph Hospital in Orange.

In the video, Gadahn refers to his grandfather, saying he was “a zealous supporter of the usurper entity, and a prominent member of a number of Zionist hate organizations. … He used to repeat to me what he claimed are the virtues of this entity and encouraged me to visit it, specifically the city of Tel Aviv, where relatives of ours live,” he said.

The above article can be found at: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/american-al-qaeda-adam-gadahn-talks-about-jewish-southern-california-roots-in-new-video.html
Also:

American Al-Qaida member acknowledges his Jewish roots
Haaretz (Israel)
June 14, 2009

An American Al-Qaida member has for the first time acknowledged his Jewish ancestry, in an official video message released over the weekend by the international terrorist network.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn — who also goes by the name Azzam the American — declared his roots in a video which surfaced on Saturday, using the opportunity to urge Muslims to use “our weapons, funds and Jihad against the Jews and their allies everywhere.”

“Let me here tell you something about myself and my biography, in which there is a benefit and a lesson,” Gadahn says in the video, speaking in Arabic with English subtitles. “Your speaker has Jews in his ancestry, the last of whom was his grandfather.”

Gadahn, 30, was raised in rural California and converted to Islam in the mid-1990s, when he moved to Pakistan and joined Al-Qaida. In 2006, the United States has charged him with treason and with providing material support to Al-Qaida. The FBI has placed him on its most wanted list and is offering a $1 million reward for his capture.

In the video, Gadahn describes his grandfather as a “Zionist” and “zealous supporter of the usurper entity, and a prominent member of a number of Zionist hate organizations… He used to repeat to me what he claimed are the virtues of this entity and encouraged me to visit [Israel], specifically the city of Tel Aviv, where relatives of ours live.”

Gadahn’s grandfather was well-known urologist Carl Pearlman, an active member of the Jewish community in Orange County California.

Gadahn says that despite his grandfather’s attempt to impart the ideology, he could never embrace “the Jews’ rape of Muslim Palestine.”

How can a person with an ounce of self-respect possibly stand in the ranks of criminals and killers who have no morals, no mercy, no humanity and indeed, no honor?” Gadahn says of Zionism. “Isn’t it shameful enough for a person to carry the citizenship of America, the symbol of oppression and tyranny and advocate of terror in the world?”

Although Gadahn’s Jewish roots have been reported before in the media, terrorism analyst Laura Mansfield told CNN that this was the first official acknowledgement. According to Mansfield, the video was probably taped in spring, prior to U.S. President Barack Obama’s address to the Muslim world in Cairo

The above article can be found at:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1092707.html


and?laugh

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Tue 03/17/15 12:48 PM


It is widely known the State of Israel supports ISIS.

ISIS is as fake as a 3 dollar bill. Lol. Look at the timing of "Isis"... All geared to give the US an excuse to continue hitting Syria. Those bunch of rag tag soldiers are controlling that much land ? I am not buying it.

Is it just a coincidence the land ISIS wants is the same land Israel wants for GREATER ISRAEL ???



I don't think so.

GlobalResearch-Garbage!rofl

From the Canadian the Western Standard,

Quote "Chossudovsky was listed as one of Canada's nuttiest professors "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues."
Specifically, the op-ed criticized GlobalResearch.ca as "anti-U.S. and anti-globalization" and Chussodovsky's "wild-eyed conspiracy theories." An article in Jewish Tribune has also criticized GlobalResearch.ca as "rife with anti-Jewish conspiracy theory and Holocaust denial." The same article also reported that B'nai Brith Canada wrote a letter to the University of Ottawa asking for the university "to conduct its own investigation of this propagandist site."

Also "Chossudovsky claims that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is actually an operational weapon of mass destruction, with the power to alter the weather, disrupt regional electrical power systems, and modify the Earth's magnetic field, as well as potentially trigger earthquakes and affect people's health. He has also claimed that the invasion of Afghanistan had long been planned by the United States and NATO, with the 9/11 attacks an excuse to justify the war. :laughing:

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 12:56 PM



It is widely known the State of Israel supports ISIS.

ISIS is as fake as a 3 dollar bill. Lol. Look at the timing of "Isis"... All geared to give the US an excuse to continue hitting Syria. Those bunch of rag tag soldiers are controlling that much land ? I am not buying it.

Is it just a coincidence the land ISIS wants is the same land Israel wants for GREATER ISRAEL ???



I don't think so.

GlobalResearch-Garbage!rofl

From the Canadian the Western Standard,

Quote "Chossudovsky was listed as one of Canada's nuttiest professors "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues."
Specifically, the op-ed criticized GlobalResearch.ca as "anti-U.S. and anti-globalization" and Chussodovsky's "wild-eyed conspiracy theories." An article in Jewish Tribune has also criticized GlobalResearch.ca as "rife with anti-Jewish conspiracy theory and Holocaust denial." The same article also reported that B'nai Brith Canada wrote a letter to the University of Ottawa asking for the university "to conduct its own investigation of this propagandist site."

Also "Chossudovsky claims that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is actually an operational weapon of mass destruction, with the power to alter the weather, disrupt regional electrical power systems, and modify the Earth's magnetic field, as well as potentially trigger earthquakes and affect people's health. He has also claimed that the invasion of Afghanistan had long been planned by the United States and NATO, with the 9/11 attacks an excuse to justify the war. :laughing:



That's an interesting strawman argument. A cut above your usual argumentum ad hominem; "attack the messenger", type post.

Trouble is?

The "Greater Israel" photo I posted is from...

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/eaQlGA09prBzmhlM6.0CPA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9MzE3O3E9OTU7dz00OTg-/http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/GREATER-ISRAEL-planned2.gif2.gif

Ooops.

Not from...GlobalResearch.

Double Ooops.

Btw? Isn't "Chossudovsky" a yiddish name?

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Tue 03/17/15 01:03 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 01:05 PM



It is widely known throughout the world the State of Israel supports ISIS.

What a lot of people do not understand is there is the Western media which is dominated by the corporate MSM; i.e. ABCNNBCBSFOXNYT and there is the Eastern media.

Western media supports Israel; since after all, the western media was funded into existence by the Bank of Rothschild.

The Bank of Rothschild is the sponsor of the State of Israel.

Eastern media such as Russian media (for example) USED to owe the Bank of Rothschild, but that debt has been repaid.

Eastern media as a result is more "fair and balanced" these days than Western media.

One will never be able to understand geo-politics if they only get their news from western media.


Here is an example of what I mean.



The leader of the radical Islamic State (ISIS), Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, has been reputed to be a Mossad-trained operative whose real name is Elliot Shimon, the son of Jewish parents.



Thanks to Eastern media, the whole world knows this about ISIS...yet many people in America and Europe are ignorant of this fact...thanks to western media keeping it a secret.


lol, keep trying, that pic is obviously Photoshopped..


ORLY?

I'm still waiting for you to prove that claim.

How about these? Are these "photoshopped" too?







No, the photo's aren't shopped, but the photo's are obviously posed and the Mossad agent leader of ISIS Elliot Shimon is obviously wearing a strap on beard. And, probably a wig too.

no photo
Tue 03/17/15 01:09 PM
What's scary about this, is I'm starting to think the Hadithites are a bunch of Jews gone crazy.

What is this...? The Putz Review ? surprised

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Tue 03/17/15 01:15 PM

What's scary about this, is I'm starting to think the Hadithites are a bunch of Jews gone crazy.

What is this...? The Putz Review ? surprised


Scary? Consider this?

What kind of "terrorist" army travels around with their own jewish journalists and jewish cameramen embedded with them?

Always ready to upload the latest "ISIS" story and photo's to Reuters; (Bank of Rothschild owned media outlet); whom all the rest of the western MSM links to?




no photo
Tue 03/17/15 01:23 PM
Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)

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Tue 03/17/15 01:28 PM

Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)


I posted this in moes "Obama removes Iran and Hezb’Allah from list of terror thre" thread, but it is equally appropriate here.

BUSTED! ISIS intelligence front American based and TOTALLY OPEN ABOUT IT



First of all, apply your own brain to this, because it is SO UNBELIEVABLE but it does fly with me, I really believe they are so confident of their ability to rig the media that they can be this far out in the open. According to an American based web site for a company called ISIS:

"ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.


WTF? Know what I think now? That THIS company is the one managing Iraq and they are providing a layer of separation for the military. I think THIS company is another Blackwater and that they are managing, supporting and supervising IDIOTS on the ground in Iraq. It is well known that "ISIS" is now the world's best funded "terror group". What better way to accomplish that than this?

The blatant brazen naming of the "terror front" in Iraq after a military company that specifically works this arena in exactly the way that would be needed to do all of this is in my opinion a dead giveaway, ISIS IS BUSTED.

OVERVIEW


ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.

ISIS Management

The members of our management team have extensive industry experience, supervising, managing and serving on numerous OGA contracts operating in the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa in the protection of U.S. national interests.Collectively, we’ve served as army intelligence officers; in special operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Panama and Haiti; as consultants for the U.S. Government on the Counter-Narcotics and Drug Interdiction Task Force, and more. Over the last 10 years, our leadership has successfully obtained and managed millions of dollars worth of government and corporate security contracts. READ MORE

Mission and Values

ISIS delivers critical services and support to help government and private organizations achieve mission success in demanding environments around the world. READ MORE

LOCATIONS

ISIS is headquartered in Sierra Vista, Arizona, outside of Fort Huachuca, with offices in The Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C. Through its associations with various military, defense and business clients, ISIS maintains a presence in several states across the country, as well as a number of countries in the middle east.



https://public.isishq.com/public/about/default.aspx




This is all so blatantly obvious.

HERE is their Washington DC phone number: 202-204-3048

I suggest people call them and ask them how they are doing with all the trouble from ISIS IN IRAQ!

no photo
Tue 03/17/15 01:43 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Tue 03/17/15 01:48 PM
Okay Bobby... I need briefer answers here.

And so this Logo in the picture You've just posted, with 'ISIS' on it...

What is this America based ISIS acronym stand for?




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Tue 03/17/15 01:56 PM
Interesting. I just wanted to comment. I also studdied history and I found it insightful that in the past for example in the KJV Bible it tells of Judah I believe being hoodwinked, tricked by Tamar his daugter-in-law because he had not given his son to her in marriage after his other sons displeased God and died. She covered herself competely as only women selling themselves did for they were not persons, just objects for that use if they did that. And he thought she was one so having not money on him at the time, gave his staff and signet for her to hold until he could repay her for services. he came back. she was gone and they all said no woman like that was in the place and later told him it was Tamar who had tricked him and gotten herself pregnant by him. He was going to have her stoned, but she said by the man who's signet and staff is this am I with child, anyway like that, so shows in that time at least if you were all covered up it was not a sign of virtue. But truly porn is not either and just demeans anyone involved.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 03/17/15 02:12 PM


Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)


I posted this in moes "Obama removes Iran and Hezb’Allah from list of terror thre" thread, but it is equally appropriate here.

BUSTED! ISIS intelligence front American based and TOTALLY OPEN ABOUT IT



First of all, apply your own brain to this, because it is SO UNBELIEVABLE but it does fly with me, I really believe they are so confident of their ability to rig the media that they can be this far out in the open. According to an American based web site for a company called ISIS:

"ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.


WTF? Know what I think now? That THIS company is the one managing Iraq and they are providing a layer of separation for the military. I think THIS company is another Blackwater and that they are managing, supporting and supervising IDIOTS on the ground in Iraq. It is well known that "ISIS" is now the world's best funded "terror group". What better way to accomplish that than this?

The blatant brazen naming of the "terror front" in Iraq after a military company that specifically works this arena in exactly the way that would be needed to do all of this is in my opinion a dead giveaway, ISIS IS BUSTED.

OVERVIEW


ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.

ISIS Management

The members of our management team have extensive industry experience, supervising, managing and serving on numerous OGA contracts operating in the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa in the protection of U.S. national interests.Collectively, we’ve served as army intelligence officers; in special operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Panama and Haiti; as consultants for the U.S. Government on the Counter-Narcotics and Drug Interdiction Task Force, and more. Over the last 10 years, our leadership has successfully obtained and managed millions of dollars worth of government and corporate security contracts. READ MORE

Mission and Values

ISIS delivers critical services and support to help government and private organizations achieve mission success in demanding environments around the world. READ MORE

LOCATIONS

ISIS is headquartered in Sierra Vista, Arizona, outside of Fort Huachuca, with offices in The Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C. Through its associations with various military, defense and business clients, ISIS maintains a presence in several states across the country, as well as a number of countries in the middle east.



https://public.isishq.com/public/about/default.aspx




This is all so blatantly obvious.

HERE is their Washington DC phone number: 202-204-3048

I suggest people call them and ask them how they are doing with all the trouble from ISIS IN IRAQ!


Man,you are really a Trip and a Half!

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 02:16 PM

Okay Bobby... I need briefer answers here.

And so this Logo in the picture You've just posted, with 'ISIS' on it...

What is this America based ISIS acronym stand for?


I'm guessing you're using an Iphone rather than some sort of computer? My gf showed me what her messages on her Iphone look like. They're tiny. I could barely see them. I imagine this thread / discussion looks similar to you.

The answers to your question are in the post I made. If you can't see the answers or the post I made clearly...well, that's too bad. You have my sincerest sympathies.

My advice? Use a computer.

Here is the thing about ISIS. It's a western media name. The western media changes their name all the time. Now they're supposed to be plain IS. The media also calls them ISIL...or Daesh...or Daish.

That's a trick intended to keep the public confused.

Consider this?

They're are TWO "ISIS's".

One is the PR unit led by Mossad agent Shimon Elliot. He has a couple of dozen men and they have access to US military equipment. They pose for photo's while carrying the Made in Israel ISIS flags. They are the ones that show up on the nightly news and in the newspapers.

Meanwhile, the field group of ISIS, is out murdering innocent women, children, and the elderly, in Syria and Iraq. Military contractors; i.e. "advisers", leading a rag tag group of misfits killing civilians.

Paving the way for future Israeli colonization of Syria and Iraq.

Iraqi special forces captured 1 US adviser, 2 Israeli Mossad advisers and 1 Arab adviser last week. I posted that in Moes thread also. Go check it out.

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 02:23 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 02:25 PM



Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)


I posted this in moes "Obama removes Iran and Hezb’Allah from list of terror thre" thread, but it is equally appropriate here.

BUSTED! ISIS intelligence front American based and TOTALLY OPEN ABOUT IT



First of all, apply your own brain to this, because it is SO UNBELIEVABLE but it does fly with me, I really believe they are so confident of their ability to rig the media that they can be this far out in the open. According to an American based web site for a company called ISIS:

"ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.


WTF? Know what I think now? That THIS company is the one managing Iraq and they are providing a layer of separation for the military. I think THIS company is another Blackwater and that they are managing, supporting and supervising IDIOTS on the ground in Iraq. It is well known that "ISIS" is now the world's best funded "terror group". What better way to accomplish that than this?

The blatant brazen naming of the "terror front" in Iraq after a military company that specifically works this arena in exactly the way that would be needed to do all of this is in my opinion a dead giveaway, ISIS IS BUSTED.

OVERVIEW


ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.

ISIS Management

The members of our management team have extensive industry experience, supervising, managing and serving on numerous OGA contracts operating in the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa in the protection of U.S. national interests.Collectively, we’ve served as army intelligence officers; in special operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Panama and Haiti; as consultants for the U.S. Government on the Counter-Narcotics and Drug Interdiction Task Force, and more. Over the last 10 years, our leadership has successfully obtained and managed millions of dollars worth of government and corporate security contracts. READ MORE

Mission and Values

ISIS delivers critical services and support to help government and private organizations achieve mission success in demanding environments around the world. READ MORE

LOCATIONS

ISIS is headquartered in Sierra Vista, Arizona, outside of Fort Huachuca, with offices in The Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C. Through its associations with various military, defense and business clients, ISIS maintains a presence in several states across the country, as well as a number of countries in the middle east.



https://public.isishq.com/public/about/default.aspx




This is all so blatantly obvious.

HERE is their Washington DC phone number: 202-204-3048

I suggest people call them and ask them how they are doing with all the trouble from ISIS IN IRAQ!


Quote from conrad_73:

Man,you are really a Trip and a Half!


Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.

The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances are used to influence opinion.

The fallacy draws its appeal from the technique of "getting personal." The assumption is that what the locutor is saying is entirely or partially dictated by his character or special circumstances and so should be disregarded.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/person.html
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You are free to refute any of the facts I have posted at any time using facts of your own, you know.

That is what a debate is all about.

It's about using the best facts to present the best argument.

A debate is not about seeing who can post the most or even the best logical fallacies.

Debate Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
v. verb
1. To consider something; deliberate.
2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument.
n. noun
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration.
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Tue 03/17/15 02:27 PM
Thank You, Bobby...

I think I'm a little late in having viewed these threads.

I'll start from the beginning.

I'm on a 9 inch Net Book and it's clear enough, for Your information.

It's about 6 years old, but it does the trick.

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Tue 03/17/15 02:33 PM

Thank You, Bobby...

I think I'm a little late in having viewed these threads.

I'll start from the beginning.

I'm on a 9 inch Net Book and it's clear enough, for Your information.

It's about 6 years old, but it does the trick.


It's a long thread, I'll grant you.

"ISIS" is just a gimmick used to keep the war agenda afloat in Syria and Iraq. They didn't exist 10 month's ago.

ISIS are military contractors. You know how many times "Blackwater" has changed their name?

ISIS may even be Blackwater.

But, here's the thing. Iraqi special forces captured, 1 US adviser, 2 Israeli Mossad advisers, and 1 Arab adviser in Iraq last week.

Confiscated their ID's too.

Western media is covering that up. Eastern media reported it and I posted the news article in moe's thread.

My point being...... Everyone in the ....whole world ....w/ the exception of Americans who get their news from western media and some people in Europe now know who and what ISIS really is.


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Tue 03/17/15 03:05 PM
One thing that I kinda wondered about. There is a battle going on (northern Syria & possibly parts of Iraq) for the creation of a new country (ie: Rojava). This area (Rojava) is being threatened by ISIS group(s), and many westerners (US, British, Australian) are covertly heading over to this area to help defend it from ISIS takeover. Many of these people are ex-military, although there are some who are going over there for humanitarian reasons. They even have a group called "Lions of Rojava", and they fight alongside of (or with) RPG/RPJ.

The foretold, forming country, Rojava, is to be considered one that gives safe haven to all people of varied religious backgrounds, etc., somewhat of a Western ideology.
From what I've heard recently, the border between Northern Syria (proposed Rojava territory), and Turkey is now watchful for any of these pro-Rojava mercenaries, and will attempt to turn them back, not allowing them to enter the area.

The funny thing about this is that the US government does not condone Americans who wish to join the fight for Rojava, and seem to be against any ex-military from going over there. Why would this be? Possibly because the US is secretly funding ISIS? I hope that I'm not too far off topic here.

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Tue 03/17/15 03:18 PM
Another Media Psyop? The Ancient Statues ISIS Supposedly Destroyed Were All FAKE



Anyone who doesn’t know who funded, trained, armed and essentially created ISIS at this point (...http://www.thedailysheeple.com/you-do-realize-that-the-u-s-funded-and-trained-isis-right_082014...) needs to please do some research and wake up.

They are essentially like little toys being scooted around on the giant world Risk game board for the purpose of spreading fear and reshaping the Middle East in the way the empire-building nations of the West (including Israel) sees fit.

The story on RT begins:

The ancient statues that Islamic State militants smashed in Mosul on camera last month have been proved to be exact replicas of precious artifacts of Iraqi heritage. The real masterpieces of antiquity are said to be in Baghdad.

“They were copies. The originals are all here,” Baghdad’s museum director told Germany’s Deutsche Welle.

The head of the antiquity department in Iraq’s cultural heritage authority, Fawzye al-Mahdi, also told the German broadcaster that “none” of the artifacts “were originals.”

This, experts say, explains why in a video that shows the destruction statues crumble so easily.

“The reason they crumble so easily is that they’re made of plaster. You can see iron bars inside,” Mark Altaweel of the Institute of Archaeology at University College, London said to Channel 4.



So the whole story, complete with dramatic video, was about replicas…

That didn’t stop another wash of mainstream media attention given to the idea that ISIS the almighty and powerful was tromping the countryside, destroying precious, ancient, irreplaceable 2700-year-old artifacts and robbing the world of them forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1pGJPMp9fY

The Diplomat: ISIS Is Destroying Priceless Artifacts. Here’s How to Stop Them.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/03/isis-is-destroying-priceless-artifacts-heres-how-to-stop-them/

The Daily Beast: ISIS Destroys Biblical Artifacts in Iraq
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/02/26/isis-ransacks-sacred-artifacts-in-iraq.html

None of these outlets has posted a new story that I could find correcting their previous information about how these items were just fakes and the 2700-year-old irreplaceable items were actually totally replaceable replicas.

CNN really went to town whipping people up in a frenzy over it, complete with replay after replay of the video of the fakes being destroyed in dramatic fashion, sometimes slow motion, in multiple stories throughout the last few weeks:

So, now that it has come to light that these were simply fakes, where is CNN’s story about how they were simply fakes?

I just did a search and couldn’t seem to find it.

Guess all those ill-informed CNN viewers have absolutely no idea what really happened since they barely even get one side of the news to begin with; they only know that they should be more upset and shaking in their boots and afraid of the wrath of ISIS with every passing day…

Then again, CNN is the same channel that insisted ISIS is able to lure women with the magical powers of Nutella and kittens… for real.

Yeah, well, at least some of us weren’t buying the ISIS beheading videos either.

More ridiculous ISIS propaganda, brought to you by The Daily Sheeple:

OH COME ON: ISIS Just So Happens to Hack CENTCOM as Obama Is Announcing New Cyber Security Legislation?

Even Senator McCain ‘Accidentally’ Refers to the Syrian Rebels as ‘ISIS’

The U.S. Veteran Fighting ISIS in Syria is Obviously a Propaganda Shill

Mainstream Media Discovers What Created ISIS – Global Warming!


Links for the article I posted and all the headlines are at...http://www.thedailysheeple.com/another-media-psyop-the-ancient-statues-isis-supposedly-destroyed-were-all-fake_032015

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Tue 03/17/15 03:31 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 03:33 PM
Three days after Iran entered Iraq, Isis leadership BUSTED

You got that right! Three days ago, Iran entered Iraq with 60 armored vehicles to "fight ISIS" after being invited to by the Iraqi government, and now FOUR (4) top Isis foreign military advisors have been busted. No reference to Iran actually doing the bust was given, but it is all pretty obvious.

Anyway, 1 Arab, 2 American military advisors and 1 Mossad agent got nailed in the bust and are now in custody.

B U S T E D !!!

Iraq Arrests US, Israeli Military Advisors For ISIS In Mosul



March 07, 2015 - Fars News Agency

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iraqi Special Forces said they have arrested several ISIL'��s foreign military advisors, including American, Israeli and Arab nationals in an operation in Mosul in the Northern parts of the country.

The Iraqi forces said they have retrieved four foreign passports, including those that belonged to American and Israeli nationals and one that belonged to the national of a Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (PGCC) member-state, from ISIL’s military advisors.

The foreign advisors were arrested in a military operation in Tal Abta desert near Mosul city.

Last year, a senior aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin accused Mossad of training ISIL terrorists operating in Iraq and Syria.

Alexander Prokhanov said that Mossad is also likely to have transferred some of its spying experiences to the ISIL leadership, adding that Israel's military advisors could be assisting the Takfiri terrorists.

Prokhanov said ISIL is a byproduct of US policies in the Middle East.

ISIL is a tool at the hands of the United States. They tell the Europeans that if we (the Americans) do not intervene, ISIL will cause you harm, he said, adding that Iran and Russia are the prime targets of the ISIL.

They launched their first terror attack against us just a few days back in Chechnya, he said, stressing that the ISIL ideology has got nothing to do with the Islam practiced in Iran and some other Muslim countries in the Middle East region.

Prokhanov said the United States and Israel are one and the same when it comes to supporting a terror organization like the ISIL.

http://thesaker.is/iraq-arrests-isils-us-israeli-military-advisors-in-mosul

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