Topic: Are Chistians the Biggest Hypocrites?
Dodo_David's photo
Fri 01/16/15 04:18 PM
If you really have FAITH and BELIEVE in what you say, then why not pray that your children die in a bus accident or that your father dies in heart surgery so they can be in this wonderful place called heaven?


huh That is your complaint, that Christians don't seek their own deaths? whoa
What is wrong with this picture?

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/16/15 05:46 PM
this is like the serpent

surely , if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you would be like God

and why is THAT WRONG?...lol

simply put,, God told them it was wrong

and we are instructed to take care of our health,, our body is Gods to take care of, not to just let go in hopes of being with Him sooner

as to hypocrite, no religious or nonreligious followers have a monopoly, nor is it quantifiable to measure who suffers from it most

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Fri 01/16/15 06:49 PM
Edited by teasel on Fri 01/16/15 07:04 PM
I'm with you David. No apology needed........
Thank-you msharmony!!!!

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sat 01/17/15 05:06 AM

this is like the serpent

surely , if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you would be like God

and why is THAT WRONG?...lol

simply put,, God told them it was wrong

and we are instructed to take care of our health,, our body is Gods to take care of, not to just let go in hopes of being with Him sooner

as to hypocrite, no religious or nonreligious followers have a monopoly, nor is it quantifiable to measure who suffers from it most


Exactly what verse in the Bible does it instruct you to take care of your health? Having said that...these are all just human excuses for not wanting to die.
Suppose medicine is the forbidden fruit put here by God to see if we accept death or eat the forbidden fruit just to hang on to this earthly being longer...just a thought...

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sat 01/17/15 05:09 AM

If you really have FAITH and BELIEVE in what you say, then why not pray that your children die in a bus accident or that your father dies in heart surgery so they can be in this wonderful place called heaven?


huh That is your complaint, that Christians don't seek their own deaths? whoa
What is wrong with this picture?


Not really any complaint...just the fact that if you have true belief and faith in the Christain teaching you would really hope to be in this heaven sooner rather then later.


messi_is_a_tim_1888's photo
Sat 01/17/15 05:12 AM


If you really have FAITH and BELIEVE in what you say, then why not pray that your children die in a bus accident or that your father dies in heart surgery so they can be in this wonderful place called heaven?


huh That is your complaint, that Christians don't seek their own deaths? whoa
What is wrong with this picture?


Not really any complaint...just the fact that if you have true belief and faith in the Christain teaching you would really hope to be in this heaven sooner rather then later.


If that were the case, what would be the point of being born, reproducing and growing old, if all we aspired to was to die asap and get to heaven?

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sat 01/17/15 05:23 AM



If you really have FAITH and BELIEVE in what you say, then why not pray that your children die in a bus accident or that your father dies in heart surgery so they can be in this wonderful place called heaven?


huh That is your complaint, that Christians don't seek their own deaths? whoa
What is wrong with this picture?


Not really any complaint...just the fact that if you have true belief and faith in the Christain teaching you would really hope to be in this heaven sooner rather then later.


If that were the case, what would be the point of being born, reproducing and growing old, if all we aspired to was to die asap and get to heaven?


Not sure what the point is...thats the mystery...what are we here for? But your statement only addresses Christian teaching...very few other religions have a "heaven" concept. I guess that is the point of this thread...If you really believe in this "heaven" why would you want to be here?

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Sat 01/17/15 08:17 AM


this is like the serpent

surely , if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you would be like God

and why is THAT WRONG?...lol

simply put,, God told them it was wrong

and we are instructed to take care of our health,, our body is Gods to take care of, not to just let go in hopes of being with Him sooner

as to hypocrite, no religious or nonreligious followers have a monopoly, nor is it quantifiable to measure who suffers from it most


Exactly what verse in the Bible does it instruct you to take care of your health? Having said that...these are all just human excuses for not wanting to die.
Suppose medicine is the forbidden fruit put here by God to see if we accept death or eat the forbidden fruit just to hang on to this earthly being longer...just a thought...



I doubt it,, even physicians are here for a reason



Matthew 9

12 But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 13 Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice


msharmony's photo
Sat 01/17/15 08:19 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/17/15 08:20 AM




If you really have FAITH and BELIEVE in what you say, then why not pray that your children die in a bus accident or that your father dies in heart surgery so they can be in this wonderful place called heaven?


huh That is your complaint, that Christians don't seek their own deaths? whoa
What is wrong with this picture?


Not really any complaint...just the fact that if you have true belief and faith in the Christain teaching you would really hope to be in this heaven sooner rather then later.


If that were the case, what would be the point of being born, reproducing and growing old, if all we aspired to was to die asap and get to heaven?


Not sure what the point is...thats the mystery...what are we here for? But your statement only addresses Christian teaching...very few other religions have a "heaven" concept. I guess that is the point of this thread...If you really believe in this "heaven" why would you want to be here?



wanting to enjoy the gift of life is no indication of not wanting to be with God

and for this Christian, there is no time I am NOT with God,, as he isn't only there after death(mortal)


when I want to spend time with my daughter, it doesn't mean I don't want to spend time anyone else ever

,,,,,for everything, a season

vindez's photo
Sat 01/17/15 09:08 AM
Writing out of respect, I had the same question in my mind "Why not just die and be with my God earlier?" However, life given is life to be appreciated. Therefore, dying for the sake of desiring to be with God earlier is not something that God would want. Moreover, it is written that, to live wholistically, I need to take care of my body as it is the temple of my spirit. Killing myself is not taking care of myself.

Another thing is that there is a purpose why I'm still alive. One reason for that would most probably be to be His instrument in showing the light to other people. I don't need to be priest or pastor to share His light, because everyone has a different calling.

I'm sorry if my reply is quite complicated. I can't give a simple answer to your question.

vindez's photo
Sat 01/17/15 09:08 AM
Writing out of respect, I had the same question in my mind "Why not just die and be with my God earlier?" However, life given is life to be appreciated. Therefore, dying for the sake of desiring to be with God earlier is not something that God would want. Moreover, it is written that, to live wholistically, I need to take care of my body as it is the temple of my spirit. Killing myself is not taking care of myself.

Another thing is that there is a purpose why I'm still alive. One reason for that would most probably be to be His instrument in showing the light to other people. I don't need to be priest or pastor to share His light, because everyone has a different calling.

I'm sorry if my reply is quite complicated. I can't give a simple answer to your question.

vindez's photo
Sat 01/17/15 09:24 AM
Christians are also not perfect and their lifestyles could also contradict their integrity and "faith." Living a life of faith is more challenging than it seems, and failing to live by faith would mean hypocrisy in the eyes of someone who do not share the same faith. To live by faith is to yield to God -- this does not mean to think less of myself but to think of myself less.

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Sat 01/17/15 09:38 AM



this is like the serpent

surely , if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you would be like God

and why is THAT WRONG?...lol

simply put,, God told them it was wrong

and we are instructed to take care of our health,, our body is Gods to take care of, not to just let go in hopes of being with Him sooner

as to hypocrite, no religious or nonreligious followers have a monopoly, nor is it quantifiable to measure who suffers from it most


Exactly what verse in the Bible does it instruct you to take care of your health? Having said that...these are all just human excuses for not wanting to die.
Suppose medicine is the forbidden fruit put here by God to see if we accept death or eat the forbidden fruit just to hang on to this earthly being longer...just a thought...



I doubt it,, even physicians are here for a reason



Matthew 9

12 But when he heard it, he said,Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 13 Go and learn what this means, I desire mercy, and not sacrifice



Maybe he was drumming up Business for Luke?laugh

dnewnew's photo
Sat 01/17/15 02:47 PM
Seems to me that all religions are hypocritical since they are the constructs of HUMAN BEINGS, hoping to find something to explain an unexplainable world. There may very well be a divine force, but humans want to define it based on what's acceptable for their own ethnic/geographic/cultural group.

Religions lead to divisions: the minute you say "I am a...", you naturally separate yourself from other humans who "are not a...", & you can essentially place them in a category lesser than yourself since they don't follow your religion, AND since they are lesser you can justify doing all sorts of bad things to them in the name of the religion, instead of being honest & saying: my group want's the resources (land/water/natural resources) that this other group has & we are going to take them. That's what being human is...getting what you want for yourself & your group & if another group is hurt...well too bad, "they weren't one of us". We call it religion, politics, nationality...but it's always the same thing.

If the dinosaurs had not been wiped out...they would have evolved the same divisions...can't wait for that next NEO object to hit & have the planet reset to factory settings, maybe the next dominant species will do better than us.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/17/15 03:23 PM
humans can use difference as an excuse for exploitation and oppression

or they can celebrate it

we just have to evolve to accept real difference as something to celebrate instead of something to use as an excuse for mistreatment and dehumanization

I am a FEMALE< so I have differences from a male

I am a Christian, so I have some different beliefs and values than other religions or from atheists or agnostics

I am less than 6 foot, , so I have differences from those above

I am an American, so I live in a different area from Brits


but in no way does any of that mean I am better than males, better than taller people or better than Brits


differences are there , thank God or life would be quite boring

we are all human, but the differences is what helps us learn from and grow with each other,,,,

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Wed 02/04/15 11:09 AM
"The greatest hypocrites you'll ever know, always belong to the church of your religious affiliation."----- Benjamin Franklin-----

danglpz73's photo
Wed 02/04/15 11:41 AM
Why yes yes they are the hypocrites just like Catholics that's why I am
Non-denomination :tongue:

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Wed 02/04/15 02:09 PM

1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?


Would it show love of God to destroy his temple or to allow it to fall into disrepair?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 02/04/15 02:44 PM





Talk the talk, walk the walk....Or STFU...ohwell


Not sure if thats directed my way...but I do walk the walk..I do believe in what I believe...:wink:


It's directed at those who talk about how strong they are in their faith then turn around a sleep with their neighbors wife...I see this type of hypocritical behavior over and over and over....I could not and would not direct anything toward you or anyone else unless I saw it with my own eyes or heard it with my own ears...flowerforyou


or the local choir boy...

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Wed 02/04/15 09:28 PM
The so called devout Christians and Catholics are only devout when they are in the later years in their life like when ur cramming for a final exam and I am guessing some one was bad touched by their local priests laugh